You're making me excited now, lol.I logged this product awhile back. Definitely experience additional vascularity and leaning from this. Much more pronounced than oral Epi products. I was able to maintain my strength despite being on a 3-400 calorie deficit.
yeah oral Epi is only good if it is dosed high and mixed with a quality absorption agent. Unfortunately most companies do not do this which makes this product great. A bottle lasted me a good 40 or so days as well which was nice.You're making me excited now, lol.
I had those results but only when I dosed the epicatechin up to at least, 1g which caused me to run out quick.
Agreed. I barely notice epi at anything dosed under 500. Maybe a lil bit of pump and endurance, but nothing drastic. At 800- 1 gram, it's definitely potent.yeah oral Epi is only good if it is dosed high and mixed with a quality absorption agent. Unfortunately most companies do not do this which makes this product great. A bottle lasted me a good 40 or so days as well which was nice.
Well, that sounds like a great stack but I’m doing epichaos to compare with other oral Epicatechin products I have ran. I used cel epi plex and SNS/CEL makes great products but I wished they’d dose the epi a little high per serving . SNS vaso6 is insane thoughI highly suggest the following stack:
This is interesting, has anyone else reported this type of effect? I'd be interested in the mechanism.Epicatechin is definitely kicking in . Getting that “look” again. IBS symptoms are starting to reduce. (always happens when I high dose epicat) and nutrients feel partitioned
And yes, @Brutefit, the endurance kicked yesterday.
I did 100 reps on the hack squat (in various sets)
And 70 (in various sets, both light and heavy pyramids)
Easily did this plus my other exercises and wasn’t getting tired.
Today was pull day and I destroyed it . Pumps, fullness , endurance , etc.
Vascularity is also kicking in like crazyyy
Using 20 sprays currently
I can say , with all transdermals, you feel it immediately . Much more efficient than the oral route
I decided to hit the tanning bed for some vit d as winter has destroyed me this year. Ended up going too long. That’s why I’m read FYI
No clue why, but I get a positive GDA effect when I high dose Epicatechin. I just feel less “full”. That’s ALL Epicatechin. I just notice it around 1g with the oral and that gets expensive. With TD, I’m runnninf a total of 20 sprays which I believe is only 200mgThis is interesting, has anyone else reported this type of effect? I'd be interested in the mechanism.
That's what I was planning. I'd like to get some more oral epicatechin and bmp eventually. If anyone can give me a deal on both , if anyone has them, I'd be interested.Stack oral Epi with TD. 600mg Epi Plex should be enough combined with the 20 sprays of Epichaos. If you want to get freaky, add BMP to the mix.
How long is your Epichaos bottle seem to be lasting? I don’t count sprays but I usually get about 10 days a bottle.That's what I was planning. I'd like to get some more oral epicatechin and bmp eventually. If anyone can give me a deal on both , if anyone has them, I'd be interested.
However, this log was kind of just a comparison as I;ve ran oral epi before. The TD kicks faster but feels just like epi.
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