Anyone worried if Corona virus keeps spreading the gyms will shut down?

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To be devil’s advocate, it could be that elderly folks have the mindset that “if i had it, id know” given theyre less likely to be asymptomatic spreaders.
My gut reaction was that they may not quite understand the protecting other people aspect, and aren’t all that afraid of potential death themselves. Particularly those who are alone and have lost their spouse and other family members etc. Many of them live their life in a state of being ready to move on, so there is little motivation for them to be compliant. They are also the age group that are less likely to get called out for it- we all tend to be a little more forgiving of them in day to day life.

Kind of like how we wouldn’t give them the evil eye for sneaking a couple grapes in their mouth in the produce section. Well, these days we might not like that so much either...haha
 
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I posted on FB that people refusing to wear a mask because they’re skeptical are the same as fat people refusing to go on a diet because they’ve heard conflicting info about which one works.

I expected to stir up more fuss with it.
This Facebook you speak of sounds like a platform that offers endless opportunity for entertainment
 
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I posted on FB that people refusing to wear a mask because they’re skeptical are the same as fat people refusing to go on a diet because they’ve heard conflicting info about which one works.

I expected to stir up more fuss with it.
I saw someone post that the same people complaining they can't breathe with a mask on for 30 minutes while grocery shopping are the same ones who can wear a full face covering to go hunting for hours. Or, if you want to piss off even more people, say they're the same people that have no problem breathing with Klan hoods on.
 

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Problem is everyone wants to claim rights, freedom, and everything that makes America great! Or they say the protesters weren't wearing so I'm not. But I agree just wear a mask and move on, Trump was wearing one.
 

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Will say Florida is wearing more masks than ever and the cases supposedly are through the roof.
 
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Will say Florida is wearing more masks than ever and the cases supposedly are through the roof.
Plenty of people in Florida are not wearing masks, or are going to crowded bars and gyms or parties. If you’re trying to say masks don’t work, or that the reported cases are lies, I’m sorry, but no.
 
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People in Florida generally were not wearing masks UNTIL cases started skyrocketing
Which is likely why cases started skyrocketing.
 

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I'm not saying masks don't help. Just saying mandatory masks for about 2 weeks where I am and numbers continue to climb. Bars are closed.
 
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I'm not saying masks don't help. Just saying mandatory masks for about 2 weeks where I am and numbers continue to climb. Bars are closed.
Lots of places are open. I know people in SoFlo who go to pool halls multiple times a week. And to gyms, and out to eat. And to hang out with friends.

And now Disney World is opening up.
 
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Can't stay locked down forever. It's just not economically feasible.

And the virus is never going away, so will resume spreading as soon as any lock down is lifted.

However, if we could ALL just believe this is serious and legit enough to warrant ALL wearing masks, washing hands, and playing the social distance game for real... like lives were at stake.... perhaps we could both open up economically AND keep death numbers from rising.
 
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However, if we could ALL just believe this is serious and legit enough to warrant ALL wearing masks, washing hands, and playing the social distance game for real... like lives were at stake.... perhaps we could both open up economically AND keep death numbers from rising.
My goodness, now thats far too rational of a thought for this thread!
 
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Can't stay locked down forever. It's just not economically feasible.

And the virus is never going away, so will resume spreading as soon as any lock down is lifted.

However, if we could ALL just believe this is serious and legit enough to warrant ALL wearing masks, washing hands, and playing the social distance game for real... like lives were at stake.... perhaps we could both open up economically AND keep death numbers from rising.
Agreed. Yes, the problem is that people refuse to distance and wear masks, which leads to more cases, which leads to shutdowns. If people are responsible, we can get over this faster. But self-proclaimed “patriots” who “love their country” can’t be assed to wear a mask while grocery shopping, or not go to parties every weekend.
 

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I'm not saying masks don't help. Just saying mandatory masks for about 2 weeks where I am and numbers continue to climb. Bars are closed.
I'm experiencing the same in my county. Very liberal county with mandatory masks, everyone is wearing masks and social distancing, and yet numbers continue to skyrocket. I'm not saying masks or social distancing don't work, I believe they do. But something isn't adding up here...
 

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My gut reaction was that they may not quite understand the protecting other people aspect, and aren’t all that afraid of potential death themselves. Particularly those who are alone and have lost their spouse and other family members etc. Many of them live their life in a state of being ready to move on, so there is little motivation for them to be compliant. They are also the age group that are less likely to get called out for it- we all tend to be a little more forgiving of them in day to day life.

Kind of like how we wouldn’t give them the evil eye for sneaking a couple grapes in their mouth in the produce section. Well, these days we might not like that so much either...haha
So true, road rage is an issue for me usually


But for example an old woman was walking under the red light today and i was surprised i wasnt losing it hahaha

If it wasnt a really old woman i would probably have an edema on my right knuckle again 😁 and the air vent would get yet another dent 😂 (they are already all deformed from my last clomid run)
 
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I'm not saying masks don't help. Just saying mandatory masks for about 2 weeks where I am and numbers continue to climb. Bars are closed.
in the words of charlie rich-
'when you get behind closed doors'...the masks come off.
 
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i don't understand the rationality behind saying it's not more deadly...if it's 10x more contangious then it has 10x as many chances to kill.
I think they are saying that while this mutation spreads much faster, it has not mutated to be more lethal to the organs, etx.

But yes, more cases also equals more deaths even at the same lethality per case.
 
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I think they are saying that while this mutation spreads much faster, it has not mutated to be more lethal to the organs, etx.

But yes, more cases also equals more deaths even at the same lethality per case.
what we are saying is percentage stays the same while overall deaths go up-eh?

lol, i'm being redundant...it's been one of those days :)
 
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Well my gym just emailed me that as of tomorrow, they're closed again. So that will be fun. I hope they don't go out of business :(
 
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Well my gym just emailed me that as of tomorrow, they're closed again. So that will be fun. I hope they don't go out of business :(
One of the major gyms in my area reopened and closed within a month. Just took one employee to test positive and it was over. This is going to be an endless cycle..
 

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Will say everyone wears a mask to enter the gym then maybe 50% take it off. I honestly wear it, not for me but out of respect to others that might be training because masks are mandatory.
 
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Anyone training in the gym without a mask ?
Whenever I do working sets on bench, deadlift, squat, or military press, I put the mask under my chin. I put it back on after a quick breather. I tried deadlifting with it on and thought I was going to pass out. Accessory work I have it on, mostly, but sometimes I uncover my nose. That seems to be the common thing in my gym.
 
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My gym just closed again!
 
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All gyms in CA are closed again....nor sure if that is where Puccah us...
 
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The reason I don‘t wear a mask is because I have been going to a smallish gym in my hometown for months now. Half the time I am alone, or there are maybe up to 3-4 other people when it’s busy. It’s very easy to maintain the 6 ft rule and and I have never seen anyone there with a mask.
 
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How's it lookin at your hospital @Ricky10 these days in Maine? Anyone still on ventilators, with numbers rising or falling? Are ventilator's still being used or is it mostly pharaceuticals as treatment?
 
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How's it lookin at your hospital @Ricky10 these days in Maine? Anyone still on ventilators, with numbers rising or falling? Are ventilator's still being used or is it mostly pharaceuticals as treatment?
We still have low numbers in Maine. Though it is tourist season, and out of state residents don’t get included in our numbers even if they get diagnosed here. We have had too many of those scenarios at my hospital. Still, ever since the big initial surge, we have averaged 2-4 people sick enough to be admitted at a given time in the past 2 months. We typically have had 1-2 vented patients at a time within the same timeframe. Testing is still taking 8 hrs to get results, so treating the many PUI’s is more than a PIA in terms of the PPE.

We still haven’t lost anyone yet. Last I knew, we were doing Tocilizumab (biologic), Remdesivir, and dexamethasone as things progress. I have been on vacation for the past week, so when I go back Monday, we will see if budesonide nebulizers will be the new thing. Overall, it’s exhausting to say the least, and we are all so ready for it to be out of our lives. We are also bitter that nobody ever received any hazard pay, and not only will we not be getting our yearly raise, but pay cuts have also been mentioned as a possibility.
 
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What gym is that?
24 Hour fitness

All gyms in CA are closed again....nor sure if that is where Puccah us...
Yes, I tried booking a slot yesterday and it wouldn’t let me and today it’s all closed out. I’m going to order some bands and weights online. Anyone have the bow flex adjustable dumbbells? Thoughts?
 
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Everyone I see, including myself, puts the mask below the nose.
I do this when I’m lifting heavy. I would die if I didn’t!!!! 🤣
 
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Yeahhhh I’m not wearing a mask at all...Not even to walk in,...It’s empty when I go 8-10pm...(Mask is ‘recommended’)
 

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24 Hour fitness



Yes, I tried booking a slot yesterday and it wouldn’t let me and today it’s all closed out. I’m going to order some bands and weights online. Anyone have the bow flex adjustable dumbbells? Thoughts?
Have the select tech dumbbells they are perfect.
 

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i don't understand the rationality behind saying it's not more deadly...if it's 10x more contangious then it has 10x as many chances to kill.
From what I understood, viruses mutate over time to become more contagious but less fatal to increase viability of the host. Essentially don’t kill the host so fast and spread to more hosts = ideal life for a virus. However, I haven’t heard that recently with regards to this mutation (heard it when it was first being reported months ago though), but then again the media is bias. Can’t tell y’all how many articles I’ve seen about “healthy” people dying that have underlying conditions - but I digress.
 

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Here is the problem with believing the rona numbers, Florida found 2 labs that reported 98% and 76% positive rates. When investigated it came out 10% and 6%, agenda? That bad at reporting? So we never know the truth one way or the other.
 
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From what I understood, viruses mutate over time to become more contagious but less fatal to increase viability of the host. Essentially don’t kill the host so fast and spread to more hosts = ideal life for a virus. However, I haven’t heard that recently with regards to this mutation (heard it when it was first being reported months ago though), but then again the media is bias. Can’t tell y’all how many articles I’ve seen about “healthy” people dying that have underlying conditions - but I digress.
Interesting. I didn't really know this, or think about it in these terms before. As I read it, I was skeptical but as I thought it through it would make sense. A less deadly (from an accute perspective) virus can live in a host longer, replicate more and spread more.

As the more deadly virus kills its hosts, it replicates less, and basically might get outcompeted for hosts by the abundance of the less deadly version...basic evolution.

But a less deadly virus can end up having a much higher death rate overall, because it spreads wider (which is already an issue with Covid)
 

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Interesting. I didn't really know this, or think about it in these terms before. As I read it, I was skeptical but as I thought it through it would make sense. A less deadly (from an accute perspective) virus can live in a host longer, replicate more and spread more.

As the more deadly virus kills its hosts, it replicates less, and basically might get outcompeted for hosts by the abundance of the less deadly version...basic evolution.

But a less deadly virus can end up having a much higher death rate overall, because it spreads wider (which is already an issue with Covid)
That’s essentially why Ebola has contained outbreaks. It kills the host so quickly it’s hard to spread.
 
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Here is the problem with believing the rona numbers, Florida found 2 labs that reported 98% and 76% positive rates. When investigated it came out 10% and 6%, agenda? That bad at reporting? So we never know the truth one way or the other.
Source? Also, that would mean the death rate is actually higher than what is being reported, if you have a ton of false positives. So pick one; you’re claiming either it’s as reported, or it’s less common but more deadly.
 
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Here is the problem with believing the rona numbers, Florida found 2 labs that reported 98% and 76% positive rates. When investigated it came out 10% and 6%, agenda? That bad at reporting? So we never know the truth one way or the other.
Do you have a link or source for this?
 
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