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Anyone ever come across a fat burner with ECA results?

Battossi said:
Asprin is used to increase half life I believe.
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Gotcha. I would rather not take it due to it just generally not being good for you anyways. I will probably start with 1 primatene and 200mg caffeine then work up to 2 primatene and eventually dose it 2x per day.
 
I take 81mg of asprin with either the EC or with X-Gels if I'm out of L-Carnitine. It may not be needed with the EC, but it's not unhealthy - especially the older you get.
 
From my research I deemed 81mg safe to take. When the whole EC aspirin scare happened I assume it was because people were taking too much aspirin.
 
Interesting thread about getting ephedrine over the counter. Odd any of you guys have had trouble to me. Literally the only people that seem to buy it look like people who workout haha

I'd never deny a primatene/bronkaid sell personally. Sold it to a woman who brought up caffeine and aspirin and was obviously in competition mode.

My pharmacy is bodybuilding friendly when I'm on duty!
 
Grambo said:
Interesting thread about getting ephedrine over the counter. Odd any of you guys have had trouble to me. Literally the only people that seem to buy it look like people who workout haha

I'd never deny a primatene/bronkaid sell personally. Sold it to a woman who brought up caffeine and aspirin and was obviously in competition mode.

My pharmacy is bodybuilding friendly when I'm on duty!
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Which brings me back to my question that was never answered....is it illegal to buy Bronkaid for the purpose of an EC stack?
 
NattyForLife said:
I actually just started 3 weeks ago! First time trying it! Now ive added in a cap of AS target A2 in the morning and i think my BP has risen some from that though
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Are you combining the Target-A2 dose with the EC?

If so, I wouldn't advise that.
 
NattyForLife said:
Which brings me back to my question that was never answered....is it illegal to buy Bronkaid for the purpose of an EC stack?
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No it's not illegal. The pharmacist has no grounds from an illegal stand point to deny it BUT if they don't feel comfortable with it due to problems some have suffered (overhyped but still real) they may deny it to you based on that since if they knew you were going to use it that way and you got hurt and then decided to be unscrupulous you could technically sue.
 
Kbayne, why would you advise against a cap of TA2 with EC when people run ECY stacks all the time? Is it dangerous or is it the fact that your a rep for PES and its your duty to suggest safe ways to use your supp line?
 
puccah8808 said:
Sh*t, I didn't realize this. I was getting new life insurance the other day and my BP wouldn't go down at all!
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I wouldn't sweat it... A lot of thermogenics are going to elevate bp. You should be able to get a retest in 6 months or so if the test affected your policy.
 
NattyForLife said:
It supposed to raise it slightly(just the lower number i think); however, i have had no issues whatsoever with it being raised a lot! Im only taking one dose everyday(and some days, two doses though)
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Actually it varies. I've seen people max out at the high end of bp after a couple weeks and others who lowered.

All in all...if you have a family history or diagnosed with problems then ephedrine is not the drug for you...at all...

Infact...the causes of "insta death" aka cardiac arrest were due to these factors....and old supps containing 50mg+ of ephedrine.
 
Battossi said:
Actually it varies. I've seen people max out at the high end of bp after a couple weeks and others who lowered.

All in all...if you have a family history or diagnosed with problems then ephedrine is not the drug for you...at all...

Infact...the causes of "insta death" aka cardiac arrest were due to these factors....and old supps containing 50mg+ of ephedrine.
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I don't think there are many cases of a cns stim like ephedrine lowering bp...
 
I've stacked EC with yohimbine and yohimbine based fat burners with no ill effects aside from occasional eyelid twitching lol. That's how I know I've reached my stim limit and then I just adjust the amount. Typically I'll do one stim (half dosed twice daily) plus 200mg C +25e and just take that combo twice a day. If I have a LONG 14+ hour day I may go for a third of only EC
 
I really feel like the risk/reward with adding Y isn't there. Anxiety and blood pressure issues are not worth the slight increase in fat loss
 
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