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Any major risks in taking AAS before reaching natural limit? Anyone done it?

mrloser

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Assuming the user is of age and has been lifting for say, 6 months and makes the lifestyle changes necessary to gain and keep results post cycle, would there really be any detrimental effects without having a base? I see a lot of people say noobs don't know how to lift etc etc but if someone did it right and stuck to diet and intense training post cycle would they encounter any issues, or would they just keep their gains?
 
You could seriously ruin your full growth potential. Im 5 11 probably would have been 6 6 .... but at 17 i started using and never stopped im now 31 , in great health with no major health issues. Make damn well sure you get scanned for underlying health conditions. Such as heart disease, diabetes, and a full blood panel test ...
Im not recommending you to go out and buy shyt and use it at all in any way . You have years before u even need to go this route . Learn about natural alternatives to aas and dieting to gain muscle. Spend all your free time learning about the lifestyle. Steroids aren't going to make you big , your effort + eating + rest =better success. If you use steroids now there could be a chance that you will be dependent on them later on in life . If i come off for more than 6 weeks i feel like absolute garbage. Push your Natty limits bro get big as possible and educate your self . Thats all i have to say about that ... good luck ...
 
Hmm... I thought you were only 5'8...
 
How sweet , notice how you started with me . I dont bother you so dont bother me . Im trying to help people , your causing drama .

The people who are smart enough knows not to listen to you...
 
Assuming the user is of age and has been lifting for say, 6 months and makes the lifestyle changes necessary to gain and keep results post cycle, would there really be any detrimental effects without having a base? I see a lot of people say noobs don't know how to lift etc etc but if someone did it right and stuck to diet and intense training post cycle would they encounter any issues, or would they just keep their gains?

At 6 months you're still experiencing newbie gains. Why the **** would you cycle after just 6 months? To any experienced lifter it sounds dumb man...sorry. Your name is mr loser. I'm guessing you're in high school and maybe have awful genetics and are getting picked on? Something along those lines...feel free to tell me if I'm way off base?
 
6 months into lifting weights I wasn't even thinking about creatine, let alone prohormones, steroids, etc.
You're young. Eat big, get big. Eat smart though. Train smart. Do research. Supplement wisely but don't rely on them, use them to enhance your diet and training.
You'll be so much better off using steroids and related drugs later on down the road, and taking advantage of all the natural gains your body will be more than happy to receive as the amateur you are.
Why would you screw up your potential just because you're impatient to get big? Getting huge doesn't happen overnight. Even with anabolic steroids it will take years to build your body up. Don't rush it. It will come.
 
Y'all are harsh...You don't need anything yet, just eat as much as you can

And still, this is the most common and utterly useless parroting I keep seeing...

OP, do not heed this clowns advice, you will turn into a bloated skinny-fat idiot doing this. I understand he wasn't insinuating that you stuff your face with debbie cakes, this is quite obvious. But you do not need to eat like a pig thousands of calories above you maintenance to "grow". Your body will store more fat and retain water doing this, which is counter productive as the body is most primed for muscular growth the less fat it has. Realize when people lack a substantial amount of adequate knowledge that is needed to answer a legitimate question, they always fall back on the most common **** parrot advice. Just to begin, you need to make sure your hormones are optimized and in tact.. thyroid, e2, etc. You can do all the training and dieting you want, but if any of these are out of sync, then your growth rate will plummet, inefficient metabolism, as well as increased fat storage which in turns stores more estrogen, and when you finally burn it off, estrogenic metabolites are circulating through the blood stream, etc.. these are just the few, there are more.
 
And still, this is the most common and utterly useless parroting I keep seeing...

OP, do not heed this clowns advice, you will turn into a bloated skinny-fat idiot doing this. I understand he wasn't insinuating that you stuff your face with debbie cakes, this is quite obvious. But you do not need to eat like a pig thousands of calories above you maintenance to "grow". Your body will store more fat and retain water doing this, which is counter productive as the body is most primed for muscular growth the less fat it has. Realize when people lack a substantial amount of adequate knowledge that is needed to answer a legitimate question, they always fall back on the most common **** parrot advice. Just to begin, you need to make sure your hormones are optimized and in tact.. thyroid, e2, etc. You can do all the training and dieting you want, but if any of these are out of sync, then your growth rate will plummet, inefficient metabolism, as well as increased fat storage which in turns stores more estrogen, and when you finally burn it off, estrogenic metabolites are circulating through the blood stream, etc.. these are just the few, there are more.

I do agree here. I spent my first year of lifting listening to these idiots who I now realize we're on quite a bit of gear telling me to eat 4000 cals a day. Lol they even told me to eat gummy bears post workout to spike my insulin. I become a fat ****ing blob with some muscles. That's when I took things into my own hands. Did my own research. Learned a lot and started putting it all into practice. First I had a **** load of weight to lose of course lol but now I'm where I want to be.
 
That's when I took things into my own hands. Did my own research. Learned a lot and started putting it all into practice.

Damn straight.

At 6mnth of lifting you are empirically ignorant. You dont know sh1t about training variables, diet, recovery, etc.
 
And still, this is the most common and utterly useless parroting I keep seeing...

OP, do not heed this clowns advice, you will turn into a bloated skinny-fat idiot doing this. I understand he wasn't insinuating that you stuff your face with debbie cakes, this is quite obvious. But you do not need to eat like a pig thousands of calories above you maintenance to "grow". Your body will store more fat and retain water doing this, which is counter productive as the body is most primed for muscular growth the less fat it has. Realize when people lack a substantial amount of adequate knowledge that is needed to answer a legitimate question, they always fall back on the most common **** parrot advice. Just to begin, you need to make sure your hormones are optimized and in tact.. thyroid, e2, etc. You can do all the training and dieting you want, but if any of these are out of sync, then your growth rate will plummet, inefficient metabolism, as well as increased fat storage which in turns stores more estrogen, and when you finally burn it off, estrogenic metabolites are circulating through the blood stream, etc.. these are just the few, there are more.

Holy over thinking batman. Guys trained for 6 months, pretty sure good old fashioned trial and error to find maintenance calories and learning correct movements/ do a proven training program is all somebody needs.

bambam, telling someone to make the most of natty gains, pretty hypocritical wouldn't you say seeing as you are 20. you think your natty gains were all chewed up before you starting jabbing?
 
Holy over thinking batman. Guys trained for 6 months, pretty sure good old fashioned trial and error to find maintenance calories and learning correct movements/ do a proven training program is all somebody needs.

bambam, telling someone to make the most of natty gains, pretty hypocritical wouldn't you say seeing as you are 20. you think your natty gains were all chewed up before you starting jabbing?

That's fair, and I'm not making any excuses for my choices but I've been lifting for 6 years, not 6 months. I've definitely made some poor choices, just don't wanna see this guy do the same..
Note that I said when I was at the same stage of weightlifting he was, I wasn't even thinking about creatine let alone hormone altering substances. Everyone has their own path but I don't think there's any good path that starts with using steroids 6 months after starting lifting.
 
bambam, telling someone to make the most of natty gains, pretty hypocritical wouldn't you say seeing as you are 20. you think your natty gains were all chewed up before you starting jabbing?

This is yet another thing I see often... People who started juicing in their teens are some of the biggest hyprocrits when It comes to the preach about staying natural for years on end and not to 'screw up' your hormones and 'make those natty gains'.... Pathetic.
 
This is yet another thing I see often... People who started juicing in their teens are some of the biggest hyprocrits when It comes to the preach about staying natural for years on end and not to 'screw up' your hormones and 'make those natty gains'.... Pathetic.

Hypocrites or helping other people learn from your mistakes? Hindsight's 20/20 bro. No need to be calling people pathetic.
 
bambam
Look son, if you do not practice what you preach, then you have no business preaching to this guy about any of this unless it is in a related and constructive manner, which your original post contained no mention of you 'learning from your mistakes' or 'doing things differently'. There wouldn't even be a discussion of this if you had relayed this in the post. Also, starting at a prepubescent age at 14 and doing 6 years from there is not the same as starting when you are at an age where you have testosterone running through your blood and doing 6 years of training from that point.
 
bambam
Look son, if you do not practice what you preach, then you have no business preaching to this guy about any of this unless it is in a related and constructive manner, which your original post contained no mention of you 'learning from your mistakes' or 'doing things differently'. There wouldn't even be a discussion of this if you had relayed this in the post. Also, starting at a prepubescent age at 14 and doing 6 years from there is not the same as starting when you are at an age where you have testosterone running through your blood and doing 6 years of training from that point.

On a more important note, 6'5" 268lbs hole leeee fuark.
 
bambam
Look son, if you do not practice what you preach, then you have no business preaching to this guy about any of this unless it is in a related and constructive manner, which your original post contained no mention of you 'learning from your mistakes' or 'doing things differently'. There wouldn't even be a discussion of this if you had relayed this in the post. Also, starting at a prepubescent age at 14 and doing 6 years from there is not the same as starting when you are at an age where you have testosterone running through your blood and doing 6 years of training from that point.

Alright, so my mistake for not mentioning that I did not follow exactly what I was advising.
OP, as superman has said, you already have sufficient amounts of testosterone in your body provided you are healthy and don't have any existing hormone issues. Take advantage of that and grow naturally for as long as you can.
I didn't.
 
Everybody wanna be big but ain't nobody wanna put da work in

Not really, I'm willing to do the work as its the only hope I have, but I don't really have the time to wait 2+ years. It's been a part of my lifestyle for a while and I don't plan to stop even after the cycle.

At 6 months you're still experiencing newbie gains. Why the **** would you cycle after just 6 months? To any experienced lifter it sounds dumb man...sorry. Your name is mr loser. I'm guessing you're in high school and maybe have awful genetics and are getting picked on? Something along those lines...feel free to tell me if I'm way off base?

Well I've actually been lifting for a year but I feel as though my lifts are that of someone who's been lifting for 6 months
175x5 BP
235x5 Squat
315x5 DL

These are my personal bests. Not in high school. just picked a random username. I do have awful genetics but I'm going to get on a cycle because being jacked is what I've always wanted, and I also need to make my ex jealous. Sure this will get a lot of flaming but it is what it is
 
Not really, I'm willing to do the work as its the only hope I have, but I don't really have the time to wait 2+ years. It's been a part of my lifestyle for a while and I don't plan to stop even after the cycle.



Well I've actually been lifting for a year but I feel as though my lifts are that of someone who's been lifting for 6 months
175x5 BP
235x5 Squat
315x5 DL

These are my personal bests. Not in high school. just picked a random username. I do have awful genetics but I'm going to get on a cycle because being jacked is what I've always wanted, and I also need to make my ex jealous. Sure this will get a lot of flaming but it is what it is

Bold, sounds legit.
 
Not really, I'm willing to do the work as its the only hope I have, but I don't really have the time to wait 2+ years. It's been a part of my lifestyle for a while and I don't plan to stop even after the cycle.



Well I've actually been lifting for a year but I feel as though my lifts are that of someone who's been lifting for 6 months
175x5 BP
235x5 Squat
315x5 DL

These are my personal bests. Not in high school. just picked a random username. I do have awful genetics but I'm going to get on a cycle because being jacked is what I've always wanted, and I also need to make my ex jealous. Sure this will get a lot of flaming but it is what it is

Wow, just wow.. :face palm:
 
Don't have the time to wait? Okay here's what you should take then, it's really potent so be prepared for gains. Get on taurine, laxogenin, and NO-explode. They're all underground anabolics and if you must they're great for beginners. Be careful with the laxogenin though, I gained about 12lbs in a month but it made me really tired/lethargic. But damn did I get huge
 
Bold, sounds legit.

I was planning on staying natty forever really and before this I wouldn't have decided to use steroids before this, but sfter being humiliated I'm pretty deadset on getting jacked to prove a point. I also realize the places being aesthetic can take me, so I figured now would be a good time to experience it before it's too late.
 
I was planning on staying natty forever really and before this I wouldn't have decided to use steroids before this, but sfter being humiliated I'm pretty deadset on getting jacked to prove a point. I also realize the places being aesthetic can take me, so I figured now would be a good time to experience it before it's too late.

You do realize that you can look awesome and get somewhat jacked without the need for PEDs right? you are just scratching the surface of where you can by the sounds of things. DIET, TRAINING PROGRAM/CORRECT MOVEMENT and RECOVERY are three priorities which you should master before looking into getting enhanced. You think you are magically gonna become an aesthetic beast after a cycle? you are delusional. No offence of course.
 
I was planning on staying natty forever really and before this I wouldn't have decided to use steroids before this, but sfter being humiliated I'm pretty deadset on getting jacked to prove a point. I also realize the places being aesthetic can take me, so I figured now would be a good time to experience it before it's too late.

You're being impulsive and I don't think this is a good idea. You need to use this negative energy to push harder at the gym. I'm sorry but **** your ex she's your ex for a reason. This is not how you're going to get back at her.
 

According to urban dictionary:
Que

Spanish word pronounced "k" meaning "what." This works very well when a rich american that speaks no spanish hires a mexican that speaks no english and as the american barks out orders the mexican replies with "que?" which the american things means "ok."
Rich white woman: Pick up Bart from school and then take the dry cleaning down to the place then you can take my mink coat to the cold storage.
Lopez: Que?
Rich white woman: Good, thank you Carl *leaves*
Lopez: ...que?
 
You do realize that you can look awesome and get somewhat jacked without the need for PEDs right? you are just scratching the surface of where you can by the sounds of things. DIET, TRAINING PROGRAM/CORRECT MOVEMENT and RECOVERY are three priorities which you should master before looking into getting enhanced. You think you are magically gonna become an aesthetic beast after a cycle? you are delusional. No offence of course.

You're being impulsive and I don't think this is a good idea. You need to use this negative energy to push harder at the gym. I'm sorry but **** your ex she's your ex for a reason. This is not how you're going to get back at her.

I am aware I will not be an aesthetic beast but I will be way better than where I'm at now. The negative energy has been pushing me at the gym for the past couple of months...it is for me too, as being jacked will help me get over her.
 
I am aware I will not be an aesthetic beast but I will be way better than where I'm at now. The negative energy has been pushing me at the gym for the past couple of months...it is for me too, as being jacked will help me get over her.

I sound like a huge hypocrite but seriously dude PEDs are not the answer to your problem here. They are going to only make you more angry at her, angry at the world, etc. You want to have the right mindset when messing around with stuff that can enhance your emotions.
I started lifting weights and working out to deal with my frustration and anger stemming from my parents' divorce. People started saying I was jacked before I even knew what a prohormone was let alone before I tried one. You haven't lifted weights long enough to see really impressive results naturally. Try doing that before you resort to enhancement.
 
According to urban dictionary:
Que

Spanish word pronounced "k" meaning "what." This works very well when a rich american that speaks no spanish hires a mexican that speaks no english and as the american barks out orders the mexican replies with "que?" which the american things means "ok."
Rich white woman: Pick up Bart from school and then take the dry cleaning down to the place then you can take my mink coat to the cold storage.
Lopez: Que?
Rich white woman: Good, thank you Carl *leaves*
Lopez: ...que?

Lol goddamnit
 
Biggest risk? Ending up with the psychological addiction to anabolics, abusing them to never really make the gains you want, continuing to raise your doses higher and higher to where you ruin your health and/or natural testosterone levels + fertility.
 
Assuming the user is of age and has been lifting for say, 6 months and makes the lifestyle changes necessary to gain and keep results post cycle, would there really be any detrimental effects without having a base? I see a lot of people say noobs don't know how to lift etc etc but if someone did it right and stuck to diet and intense training post cycle would they encounter any issues, or would they just keep their gains?

I would (accurately) generalize the steroid community and say that almost all users did not come close to their genetic limit before using AAS. Genetic limit is quite hard to reach lol. Given a good PCT and hard training and proper dieting it doesn't matter at what stage you use AAS, you'll keep some of the gains.
 
I'm going to keep it short. Its looked down a pon to do something for the wrong reasons because it can cause psychological issues( generally speaking). I'm saying this because most people workout have body image issues which in reality can be detrimental down the road. Physically most side effects can be countered but it seems like your friend has a body image issue if he is looking to jump on something so quick. I say he can do whatever he wants, its his body but it is it isn't smart.
 
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