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Just wondering if any of you have had any success with either of them?
You can get betaine HCL 2.2 pounds for 21 bucks.Betaine anhydrous is pretty much a staple supp for me. SNS has 100 gram for 19.99 so doesn’t cost much to run.
Betaine HCL is not the same thing as Betaine anhydrous though, so don’t do that.You can get betaine HCL 2.2 pounds for 21 bucks.
I just re read that too lolBetaine HCL is not the same thing as Betaine anhydrous though, so don’t do that.
Betaine and HMB are in my top 3 supps, behind creatine.Just wondering if any of you have had any success with either of them?
I do sns betaine with mccYeah I always take my SNS Betaine and SNS Creatine HCL everyday. I seem to have much more endurance and strength than when I’m not taking these
Yes it’s generally referred to as more of an “anti-catabolic” than anabolic ingredient.Isn’t the deal with HMB that it works best in conjunction with new/larger training volumes? It’s been a minute, but I think I remember that being the case. Correct me if I am wrong.
Betaine has benefits to offer outside of cell hydration and creatine production support. It also aids methylation among other thingsDon't creatine and betaine anhydrous have similar effects in the body (both osmolytes) ? If your muscles are fully saturated with creatine, what would adding betaine do?
Don't creatine and betaine anhydrous have similar effects in the body (both osmolytes) ? If your muscles are fully saturated with creatine, what would adding betaine do?
Pretty much this. There may not be a huge difference when they are combined, but Betaine also aids in some other health benefits as well (works as a methyl donor).Betaine has benefits to offer outside of cell hydration and creatine production support. It also aids methylation among other things
This. And given it’s affordable price, safety, general health benefits, and it’s not needing to be cycled or taken at a specific time, I just take it with Creatine to form the basis of a stack that there’s no reason not to use haha.Pretty much this. There may not be a huge difference when they are combined, but Betaine also aids in some other health benefits as well (works as a methyl donor).
I’ve always enjoyed it when I really pushed the envelope with volume and/or frequency, but I’d opt for the cheap old HMB and not pay the premium for the FA.No love for poor HMB...honestly, I’m a fan but for only for a certain type of athlete. It shines with in season wrestles, judokas, MMA, Hell Week at BUDS, and other sports/occupations where their training routine is highly catabolic and caloric intake may be restricted. If your goal is powerlifting or bodybuilding you would (should) be training and eating differently and thus it may be less effective/needed.
Not to mention the fact that there’s considerable skepticism amongst researchers over the results obtained by Wilson in his “research” with HMBI’ve always enjoyed it when I really pushed the envelope with volume and/or frequency, but I’d opt for the cheap old HMB and not pay the premium for the FA.
The HCl and anhydrous are used for complety different purposes. Don't buy HCl if your goal is strength gainsYou can get betaine HCL 2.2 pounds for 21 bucks.
Both are betaine no? Just one is waterless and the other is hcl based.Betaine HCL is not the same thing as Betaine anhydrous though, so don’t do that.
Every study for performance/athletic/muscle benefits used anhydrous, while HCL is essentially always used for stomach/digestion benefits. Jim Stoppani says that betaine HCL is much more acidic, and that’s why it’s often used for digestion. Either way, why not use the form that has a ton of studies on it instead of using the form that has a ton of studies for something entirely different?Both are betaine no? Just one is waterless and the other is hcl based.
I like it . II used hbm which was an old AAEFX version. Didn’t get much from it that I could see.
Most studies show benefit at 2.5 grams. I usually do 5 though.For you guys that use Betaine anhydrous, how much are you taking?
2.5 to 3 grams per day.For you guys that use Betaine anhydrous, how much are you taking?
This. Not always 5g but up to that when I use multiple products with this in them.Most studies show benefit at 2.5 grams. I usually do 5 though.
I tend to have a solid tolerance (GI wise) to supplements, but for some reason, >4g Betaine Anhydrous treats me terriblyThis. Not always 5g but up to that when I use multiple products with this in them.
I tend to have a solid tolerance (GI wise) to supplements, but for some reason, >4g Betaine Anhydrous treats me terriblyThis. Not always 5g but up to that when I use multiple products with this in them.
Ya when I dose that high it is usually because some is in my intra-workout, so idk how a 5g all at once would treat me.I tend to have a solid tolerance (GI wise) to supplements, but for some reason, >4g Betaine Anhydrous treats me terribly
What brand is that? I had not heard of a liquid one except metrx and eas used to have a drink that had creatine and hmb in itI like HMB, replaces BCAA in my supplementation. but take the liquid, raw acid-form 4g in 3-4 doses daily. Ca-HMB doesnt work as well as the liquid acid-form. specially in calorie defecit
It’s known as HMB free acid. There’s some clever trademark name for it, I forget what that is now, but last I heard, Muscletech had exclusive rights to it. It was sold under the product name Clear Muscle originally, but I think I just saw a new version at Vitamin Shoppe that’s dosed better for much cheaper than it used to be, so I may have to revisit it.What brand is that? I had not heard of a liquid one except metrx and eas used to have a drink that had creatine and hmb in it