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Any Legal designer drugs/Peptides/Pro hormones?

^^^ Yep. ^^^
· 1-Androsterone or 1-Andro — 3b-hydroxy-androst-1-ene-17-one — This product is considered one of the most popular and effective PHs on the market at present. A recent study has shown that the product could cause an increase of 10 pounds of muscle mass in 30 days if the user followed a stringent diet and workout routine. 1-Andro is so effective as it is converted enzymatically to 1-Testosterone. This conversion results in an anabolic effect that is twice the effect of normal testosterone. As a result, this is considered to be one of the most popular supplements on the market for anyone who wants to start with PHs.

· 5-DHEA or Dehydroepiandrosterone / dehydroepiandrostenedione — 3b-hydroxy-androst-5-ene-17-one — This supplement was considered one of the most powerful PHs on the market. A study carried out by the University of California stated that the hormone casused increased muscle mass, and better muscle functioning. At the same time, it also seemed to control cortisol secretions, boosts testosterone release and reduce supplement based side-effects. It is still considered an extremely powerful supplement and it is commonly used nowadays as well.

· 4-Androsterone or 4- Andro – 3b-hydroxy-androst-4-ene-17-one — Although there are many products on the market, 4-Andro is still considered one of the oldest and best PH products available for bodybuilders. Unlike 1-Andro, 4-Andro requires a two-step conversion process to make it effective in the body. As a result, 4-Andro does take more time to work but it is just as effective as 1-Andro.

· 7-Keto-DHEA — Also known as 7-oxo DHEA, the hormone does not add muscle mass but it decreases fat in the body by increasing metabolic rate. It also seems to decrease the formation of cortisol resulting in an effective fat-burning action that is non-hormonal based.

· BOLDIONE or 1,4-DHEA — 3b-hydroxy-androsta-1,4-diene-17-one – Commonly known as androstadienedione, this PH was very popular with users due to its rapid action on muscle mass. Boldione converted estrogen roughly half as compared to testosterone and 1-Andro. As a result, it produced very little estrogen buildup in the human body. to However, it was banned in 2012 and manufacturers were inundated with requests for a modified version. Happily, a new DHEA- approved version is ready for marketing in 2016 and it is considered just as effective as Boldione.

· EpiAndro or Epiandrosterone, or 3β-androsterone — 3b-hydroxy-androstane-17-one — Epiandrosterone is a steroid hormone with a mild amount of androgenic activity. The hormone is metabolized to Stanolone in human body which is a form of testosterone. An increased amount of EpiAndro will result in fat loss, better muscle mass, and bulkier muscles. It also seems to boost sex drive considerably.

· 5aOHP — 17beta-{1-Ketoethyl}-androstane-3-one, 17a-ol — This anabolic steroid is similar in action to Winstol. It converts to Stanolone in the body and provides muscle mass without increasing aggression. This PH is recommended for people who want to achieve a lean look without the hair loss associated with stronger PHs.

· Androst 3 5-dien-7 17-dione — Also called as “Arimistane” or “Erase, ” this is not traditionally a PH product. However, it does seem to regulate cortisol levels and this results in weight loss, muscle mass formation and better overall health as compared to other PH products.

· 1,4-OHP or OHP-dione — 17beta-{1-Ketoethyl}-androsta-1, 4-diene-3-one, 17a-ol — 1,4 OHP – This product converts to Boldenone or Equipoise in the human body and it is an incredibly effective PH. Its major action is recovery and joint repair and it also helps you build lean muscle mass. The PH is highly anabolic and low androgenic in nature causing an increase in muscle vascularity and appetite. Due to the increased appetite, building muscle mass is also easier with OHP-dione.

· 6-Keto-Progesterone — This completely new PH is quite similar in character and structure to 17a-hydroxyprogesterone (or 17-HP.) The exact method of action is not known but the product does seem to influence muscle formation and muscle mass development. For most advanced bodybuilders, this is the PH of choice as it combines with nearly every product on the market quickly.

these true??
 
We're all different, but I can't imagine marrying that girl, myself.
Also, in the law it says it’s illegal to consume sarms. Now hold on for a min. Would it be illegal to inject them? I’m no consuming them then. I have ran injectable sarms before too
 
I don’t think there’s an ifbb pro on the planet whom has ever given a fuckk about “legality” in regards, to becoming a massive, joocy freak and then getting on stage in a thong, so other men could ‘judge them’...
 
I don’t think there’s an ifbb pro on the planet whom has ever given a fuckk about “legality” in regards, to becoming a massive, joocy freak and then getting on stage in a thong, so other men could ‘judge them’...
Yeah, well my girlfriend does. I plan to take some legal stuff like DMZ or M-Stem (pretty sure they are). I can also try andro cream routes, etc. In a few years I’ll judt crash my test so bad I can get prescribed legal higher doses of trt, Dball, Anavar, Winstrol, etc
 
Also, in the law it says it’s illegal to consume sarms. Now hold on for a min. Would it be illegal to inject them? I’m no consuming them then. I have ran injectable sarms before too

Intramuscular injection is a medical delivery method to get a substance into your body, same as transdermal application on skin, sublingual in the mouth, as well as subcutaneous injection. These are all methods of consumption. That word legally is not exclusive to oral administration.

Yeah, well my girlfriend does. I plan to take some legal stuff like DMZ or M-Stem (pretty sure they are). I can also try andro cream routes, etc. In a few years I’ll judt crash my test so bad I can get prescribed legal higher doses of trt, Dball, Anavar, Winstrol, etc

They are not expressly banned in name by the current law, but they are most certainly banned in spirit by nature of the catch-all clause in the current law. This is why people refer to them as grey area.
 
Intramuscular injection is a medical delivery method to get a substance into your body, same as transdermal application on skin, sublingual in the mouth, as well as subcutaneous injection. These are all methods of consumption. That word legally is not exclusive to oral administration.



They are not expressly banned in name by the current law, but they are most certainly banned in spirit by nature of the catch-all clause in the current law. This is why people refer to them as grey area.

only one thing for it, gonna have to crush them up, powder a strap on and ask the missus to get pegging......

aside from rectal absorption actually being a legit mechanism he would surely have legal deniability that they were deliberately ‘consumed’???
 
I was going to say mk677, it's a legal growth hormone secretagogue, not a sarm. I'd compare 25mg to about the effects of 4iu of hGH.

But then I read you want to become an IFBB pro... that's never, ever going to happen without illegal supplementation. That's just the facts... even with illegal exogenous hormone supplementation, that goal of yours is highly highly unlikely to be achieved. Best of luck to you, best advice you're gonna get is you need to drop the controlling girlfriend. You're 21, she's only a girlfriend, whos already mentioned dropping your ass... quit being so pussy whipped and leave her if she can't accept your decisions and support your goals and aspirations.
 
OP has received so much ‘red pill truth’ in this thread, there are some truly great replies...Stuff that many of the well known guys in the “YouTube manosphere” would charge $ for!

I’ll add this before I bounce from this thread, if you want to be a champion, nothing can stand in your way....Your future ifbb competition certainly isn’t letting a significant other dictate what they do...
 
Is anyone else thinking of "The Octop1 Experiment" a la "The bostin Lloyd Experiment"? A well documented jurney as this young man tries to push the limits of grey area drugs? Cycle logs, contest preps, placings.... Full transparency and see if this guy can make it close? What do you think @Octop1 ?
 
Is anyone else thinking of "The Octop1 Experiment" a la "The bostin Lloyd Experiment"? A well documented jurney as this young man tries to push the limits of grey area drugs? Cycle logs, contest preps, placings.... Full transparency and see if this guy can make it close? What do you think @Octop1 ?
Add in the paranoid girlfriend causing all kinds of problems along the way and you have a great spin off reality show.

Random inspections will be done to Octop's supplement stash with the gf, the police officer the gf knows and an 'expert' wearing a lab coat who's there to read the labels on the supp bottles.
 
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Add in the paranoind girlfriend causing all kinds of problems along the way and you have a great spin off reality show.

Random inspections will be done to Octop's supplement stash with the gf, the police officer the gf knows and an 'expert' wearing a lab coat who's there to read the labels on the supp bottles.

plot twist, the girlfriend is actually banging the cop friend who gets octo arrested for grey area peds so he can continue to batter her with his baton.....
 
plot twist, the girlfriend is actually banging the cop friend who gets octo arrested for grey area peds so he can continue to batter her with his baton.....
Maybe later the cop gets arrested himself due to anabolic substance reading in physical examine at work. As audience finds out the cop enjoys some pounding with a strap on and the same substances travel to his body from the improperly cleaned strap on that the gf used to smuggle the anabolics to Octop's system. And the cop ends up in the same prison where the now fucken beefed up and angry Octo is serving his time...
 
Maybe later the cop gets arrested himself due to anabolic substance reading in physical examine at work. As audience finds out the cop enjoys some pounding with a strap on and the same substances travel to his body from the improperly cleaned strap on that the gf used to smuggle the anabolics to Octop's system. And the cop ends up in the same prison where the now fucken beefed up and angry Octo is serving his time...

this has Hollywood blockbuster written all over it
 
I don’t think there’s an ifbb pro on the planet whom has ever given a fuckk about “legality” in regards, to becoming a massive, joocy freak and then getting on stage in a thong, so other men could ‘judge them’...
That sounds so sexy when you say it like that daddy
 
Yeah, well my girlfriend does. I plan to take some legal stuff like DMZ or M-Stem (pretty sure they are). I can also try andro cream routes, etc. In a few years I’ll judt crash my test so bad I can get prescribed legal higher doses of trt, Dball, Anavar, Winstrol, etc
I get triggered when I read something about a girlfriend bossing around what his men does. In this case either you do whatever the **** you want to do (I love my girlfriend to death but when I met her she knew from day 1 she ever say something about my steroid use and I’m gone) or you listen to her and don’t do what YOU WANT to do with your life and be a good puppy
 
plot twist, the girlfriend is actually banging the cop friend who gets octo arrested for grey area peds so he can continue to batter her with his baton.....

That wouldn't be a plot "Twist" at all IMO.
That just sounds like "the plot" to me.

I hate to say this, but this is Exactly what came to mind, when he explained the situation a little more.

:-(
 
That wouldn't be a plot "Twist" at all IMO.
That just sounds like "the plot" to me.

I hate to say this, but this is Exactly what came to mind, when he explained the situation a little more.

:-(

tbh I made the comment partly because the OP said ‘he knows she won’t cheat on him’ which is precisely what I said about my soon to be ex wife. The fact he thinks that makes me think she probably already is
 
Add in the paranoid girlfriend causing all kinds of problems along the way and you have a great spin off reality show.

Random inspections will be done to Octop's supplement stash with the gf, the police officer the gf knows and an 'expert' wearing a lab coat who's there to read the labels on the supp bottles.
I think that could be a multi-season series!
 
Yeah I understand what you mean. It absolutely sucks, especially cause my girlfriend will do everything/use all her resources to prove a point. Like that using sarms will get me in jail (I know it wont). I do plan on marrying her, we’ve been dating for a few years now. I want to become a pro bodybuilder because I’d say I have superior genetics. I can take things very far I believe.

This girl doesn't seem all that bright on top of being a stubborn, know it all twat. Get rid of her and run for the hills. If you plan on pursuing competitive body building at the highest level, she will be a thorn in your side. End this relationship ASAP and find another hole.
 
kinda like wanting to be a bartender and dating a girl who goes to AA?
Yeah... kinda... but more like being an alcoholic who dates a girl who’s father killed the whole family while he was too drunk and you’re the only survivor.
 
Yeah she argued with me about it soooo much. Said she talked to a cop saying I’d be arrested

Oh goodness... if I had a man and he was on gear, I’d beg him to let me pin his fcuking quad!!! I don’t know why it’s such a turn on :weirdo:
 
Bro, don’t listen to all these other dudes!!! Just stick with heavy legal compounds like 4 Andro fully doses at 330 mg lipsomal delivery for bulking and 1000 mg Epi Andro for cutting and you will be an IFBB pro in no time, ESPECIALLY if you stack it with another IFBB pro favorite Hi Tech Pharma’s “1 Testosterone” version of 1 andro, and if your feeling really froggy you can run the legendary IFBB pro “Quad stack” that throws in Androsterone as well! Just make sure you run a full strength IFBB pro PCT with a quality over the counter test booster post cycle sprinkled in with Now Foods brand D Aspartic Acid to keep test levels sky high and I predict you will be pro for sure in at most one year with two grueling 8 week only legal oral cycles!
This is what dorian did in 93 but with dessicated liver tablets, keep that last bit between me and you
 
Oh goodness... if I had a man and he was on gear, I’d beg him to let me pin his fcuking quad!!! I don’t know why it’s such a turn on :weirdo:

🖐 just so happens I’m back on the market and would love to have my quads pinned by someone else

#justsaying 😂
 
cant I have both at the same time in some weird stabbing based Roman orgy?

Hahah, Mathb will probably give you a better happy ending. 🤣
 
On another note I can’t help but think we’ve slightly derailed the OP’s pussy whipping thread....🤔
 
On another note I can’t help but think we’ve slightly derailed the OP’s pussy whipping thread....🤔
From the first page:
I’d say you are old enough to make life decisions at this point & you have the gym experience to justify taking things to the next level.

I assume you have been with this gal for years & plan to marry? I can’t imagine any reason to worry about what a woman thinks otherwise. There are many more out there who will be dying to get after your new juicier body. You have your entire life ahead of you; if you aren’t planning on spending your life with this one she doesn’t deserve to be making your life decisions for you.

I respect and agree with not lying. You need to be honest with your partner. So get her on board, cut her out, or accept this isn’t a lifestyle that will work with this relationship if it’s the truest priority.

Last, understand that cycling isn’t something you are likely to stop (almost nobody only does one cycle), and it could eventually end you up with low natural test and needing TRT years down the line.
This is all you need to read OP, I have nothing more to add.
We witnessed a prophecy being fulfilled here 🙏
 
Successful injection IS the happy ending, no?
Ahhhh, yes... watching that needle pull out is such a turn on.

Once you go blond and hazel eyes you never go back girl! Of course whisky will pick me over you

Hahah, yes! I’m just a conservative, tattooed Asian with boobs... no competition here. 🤣♀️

tbh I didn’t know there was a bad version of a happy ending??🤣 Wtf happens there? You blow your lot and immediately get a punch to the balls or something?

Haha, me love you long time, Whisky. ♀️
 
Ahhhh, yes... watching that needle pull out is such a turn on.



Hahah, yes! I’m just a conservative, tattooed Asian with boobs... no competition here. 🤣‍♀



Haha, me love you long time, Whisky. ‍♀

tattoo’s, boobs and you’ll pin me......how da **** are you single?? Perfect Trifecta right there 👌👌
 
Now this sounds like a woman for a ifbb pro..

haha, yeah to be fair that’s a great shout.

OP - I can guarantee you @puccah8808 wont be running to the cops every time you run a blast.

This is the women you need. Personality, looks, will stab you, has boobs......you need to be sliding in some DM’s quick brother
 
haha, yeah to be fair that’s a great shout.

OP - I can guarantee you @puccah8808 wont be running to the cops every time you run a blast.

This is the women you need. Personality, looks, will stab you, has boobs......you need to be sliding in some DM’s quick brother
Damn my man is hitting her with compliments! Freshly single too hehe
 
Fair enough you win.

tattoo’s, boobs and you’ll pin me......how da **** are you single?? Perfect Trifecta right there

Now this sounds like a woman for a ifbb pro..

haha, yeah to be fair that’s a great shout.

OP - I can guarantee you @puccah8808 wont be running to the cops every time you run a blast.

This is the women you need. Personality, looks, will stab you, has boobs......you need to be sliding in some DM’s quick brother

Damn my man is hitting her with compliments! Freshly single too hehe


Haha, you guys are the best!!! Makes having to work today a lot more fun!

Oh, and I’m getting my doctorate, too.... soooo.... I’m kinda smart. 🤪 haha, fucking Asians...
 
Haha, you guys are the best!!! Makes having to work today a lot more fun!

Oh, and I’m getting my doctorate, too.... soooo.... I’m kinda smart. 🤪 haha, fucking Asians...
Fucking asians always gotta be so smart and ****. Next thing you know she makes a bigger salary than you and you’re the one in the kitchen making her trenbolone sandwiches
 
Fucking asians always gotta be so smart and ****. Next thing you know she makes a bigger salary than you and you’re the one in the kitchen making her trenbolone sandwiches

I’m actually legitimately a decent chef so I’m ok with making the sandwiches 🤣

ive never had a problem with women being smarter than me. Too many guys get butt hurt by stuff like that. To be fair if she’s out earning me (I’m very fortunate I have a great paying job) then we would literally be living the life of luxury.

right now the massive pool of water between us is the only issue I’m seeing @puccah8808 😉😜
 
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