thebigt
Legend
compared to whats now available, IF it is 70% of sx that sounds really good.....
Announcing - Slim FX™
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compared to whats now available, IF it is 70% of sx that sounds really good.....
Eizbear
Active member
It sure does, bro! I'm looking forward to hear your thoughts about it! We really think this product is in a league of its own to what's available now!
BB12
Well-known member
I've tried a sh*t load of products and like most have a closet in the kitchen that's just overflowing with half bottles or tubs. I can tell you this, not one of them is an AX product.
Very impressed with every product from their first release to present day. Why should we except anything less with the release of the new products.
Very impressed with every product from their first release to present day. Why should we except anything less with the release of the new products.
thebigt
Legend
well, if the sample pack is 2 caps i will take both, this just gives me 1 shot at it....i will try and make it count!!!
Clever Mouse
New member
Looking at the ingredient profile again, why didn't you include your Aneurin DBE ingredient in FX?
Maybe it wasn't the main "drive" in SX, but it did add to the overall "powerfullness" of the product? So I'm thinking even if FX is NOT SX2 it would be a nobrainer to continue this active. I guess I could always add sulbutiamine, but it's not the same.........
Maybe it wasn't the main "drive" in SX, but it did add to the overall "powerfullness" of the product? So I'm thinking even if FX is NOT SX2 it would be a nobrainer to continue this active. I guess I could always add sulbutiamine, but it's not the same.........
BOHOLANA
New member
What is the quickest way for to get my hands on this once it is released? Should I order direct from this website or go on the athletic Xtreme website? I can't wait!! The original helped me so much, I really look forward to trying this.
Mrodz
Active member
I'm glad to see your so excited to try this
there are a few ways to win a free bottle here on AM. This last week way gave away aprox 30 products spaced out daily and next week will be the same. Any questions feel free to PM us reps Also I know Tigerfitness had a pre-sale going on and on FB we are running a daily sweepstakes. How's that for promoting lol
Eizbear
Active member
I'm glad to see your so excited to try this
Also I know Tigerfitness had a pre-sale going on and on FB we are running a daily sweepstakes. How's that for promoting lol
TigerFitness is just one of em, presales are popping up more and more each day..!
Quickest way to get your hands on this would be to participate in our contest or the sweepstakes on our Facebookpage.... OR just be very active in our threads and we might just choose you on a random pick to recieve this
We love active fans!
BOHOLANA
New member
TigerFitness is just one of em, presales are popping up more and more each day..!
Quickest way to get your hands on this would be to participate in our contest or the sweepstakes on our Facebookpage.... OR just be very active in our threads and we might just choose you on a random pick to recieve this
We love active fans!
Thanks so much! I entered the fb contest a few days ago....keeping my fingers crossed! I can't wait for this to come out!
Eizbear
Active member
You're welcome! We'll start up this weeks contest today again, so be sure to check out that thread:
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Best of luck!
Mixelflick
Active member
Yeah, you should try out Mass-FX, it's great! I'm running a cycle of it now actually, perfect for my winter bulk
I can hook you up with a 50% discount code on our webpage if you want to, just PM me..
PM sent! Time to give this bad boy, a good run...
THANK YOU!
Mixelflick
Active member
I hear you, brother. This is part of the reason I bought and paid for my Slim FX, vs. being sent a sample. Having said that, some important background to understand about me, going into this...
1.) I have an obscene stim tolerance, having used E/C and every adjunct to come along in the past 20 years. This includes the original Slim Xtreme, 1,3, etc., etc. I've used E/C for that entire period of time btw, with NOTHING but upside - including HDL levels a full 40 points above the upper end of the reference range. An often overlooked and little discussed benefit of effy, it boosts good cholesterol levels by no small amount. In fact, I carry a copy of the below in my wallet everywhere I go. Comes in handy when Dr's, nurses and other "experts" parrot the FDA's "Ephedrine Bad, Bad Ephedrine" and just in case you missed it... "Stop taking ephedrine, it's bad for you"!!! The only problem with their advice is this: It's WRONG.
Not a single expert (including the almighty Dr's), could tell me the difference between ephedRINE and epheDRA - the herb usually sourced from the genus Ma Huang or Sida Cordifolia in the form of an 8% extract. Nor could they tell me how many different stereo-isomers there are. The answer is 6 (more, if you count related actives in the herb). Two in the pharmaceutical, and all 6 in the herbal extract. They all went down the same road with me, and they all left having to acknowledge they haven't even read their own bought and paid for by big pharma (ooops!, peer reviewed, published medical studies). End of rant.
Having said all of that, Slim Xtreme (and hopefully Slim FX) - was a MUCH smoother ride/better appetite suppressant etc.. Finally (and truthfully), ephedrine had been eclipsed as the numero uno thermogenic.
2.) I have MUCH to lose by giving false/otherwise dis-ingenuous reviews. As the author of The Blueprint, I have almost 1,000 people now asking me if XYZ is worth their money. Thus far, my recommendations have been on the mark/truthful and more importantly - helped the people that have invested in me/BP.
I shoot straight, and my review of Slim FX will be no exception....
A. EPHEDRA PLUS HERBAL CAFFEINE IS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE LONG TERM IN MULTIPLE STUDES PER ST. LUKE'S HOSPITAL, COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY AND A FORMER PROFESSOR/DR. FROM A PLACE CALLED "HARVARD", BETH ISRAEL'S MEDICAL CENTER.
Harvard/Columbia Long-Term Safety And Efficacy Trial Study Overview
On April 25, 2002, the International Journal of Obesity published the results of “the first reported long-term, clinical trial of a herbal preparation containing ephedrine alkaloids and caffeine in combination.” The trial was a prospective, two-arm, six-month, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, clinical safety and efficacy trial conducted at two sites. The trial was conducted by a team of researchers, including Dr. Carol Boozer, the director of the New York Obesity Research Center, at St. Luke’s-Roosevelt Hospital and Columbia University, and Dr. Patricia Daly, formerly a professor at Beth Israel Medical Center, at Harvard Medical School1.
SUMMARY
Safety: The researchers concluded that “compared with placebo, the tested product produced no adverse events and minimal side effects that are consistent with the known mechanisms of action of ephedrine and caffeine.” In fact, the number of research subjects removed from the study for potential treatment-related adverse events were similar in the active and placebo groups (collectively the “treatment groups”). The researchers noted that there “were no significant differences between treatment groups in self-reported chest pain, palpitations, blurred vision, headache, nausea or irritability at any time point.”
Benefits: The researchers concluded that “the present study demonstrated significant beneficial effects on body weight, body fat and blood lipids of a herbal Ma Huang/Kola nut mixture (90/192 mg/day ephedrine alkaloids/caffeine) in overweight men and women who were otherwise healthy. Moreover, the herbal combination promoted significantly greater reductions in waist and hip circumference in overweight subjects compared with placebo-treated subjects.
Overall: The researchers concluded that “herbal ephedra/caffeine (90/192 mg/day) promoted body weight and body fat rejection and improved blood lipids without significant adverse events.”
Study Protocol ‚ The prospective, two-arm, six-month, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial involved 167 overweight subjects (84 subjects assigned to the placebo group and 83 subjects assigned to the ephedra/caffeine alkaloid group). For 6 months, the subjects were given either a placebo or 90 mg of ephedrine alkaloids, from herbal ephedra, and 192 mg of caffeine alkaloids, from Kola nut, per day in 3 divided doses, as well as diet and exercise counseling. Specifically, at randomization, the subjects were counseled to eat normally (but limit intake of dietary fat to 30% of calories) and to exercise moderately (e.g. walk 30 minutes per day, three times a week). Baseline and follow-up evaluations of the subjects included 24-hour blood pressure and cardiac Holter monitoring, as well as EKGs, routine laboratory tests, and urine samples.
Study Observations ‚ The treated group had significantly greater reductions in body weight, body fat, and waist and hip circumference than the placebo group. For example, subjects in the treated group lost an average of 11.7 pounds (5.3 kg) during the study, compared to an average of 5.7 pounds (2.6 kg) in the placebo group. The greater weight loss in the treated group was accompanied by improved cholesterol and blood glucose levels. The researchers observed small increases in heart rate and blood pressure variables in the treated group, without any increases in heart irregularities such as cardiac arrhythmias.
Side-Effects ‚ The researchers concluded that “compared with placebo, the tested product produced no adverse events and minimal side effects that are consistent with the known mechanisms of action of ephedrine and caffeine.” No subject in the study suffered from a serious adverse event, and the side-effects in both groups were transient and mild. The researchers noted that “the symptoms that subjects reported to be most consistently increased by the herbal vs the placebo treatment were dry mouth, heartburn and insomnia.”
Withdrawals ‚ More subjects withdrew from the placebo group than the treatment group. Specifically, of the 80 subjects who withdrew from the study, 37 were from the treated group and 43 were from the placebo group. More than 50% of the withdrawals in both groups were not side-effect related. Moreover, the number of subjects removed from the study for a potential treatment-related side-effect was almost identical in the treatment and placebo groups. The researchers noted that “there were no significant differences between treatment groups in self-reported chest pain, palpitations, blurred vision, headache, nausea or irritability at any time point.”
Impact of Clinical Research on Adverse Event Reports (“AERs”) ‚ As noted by the researchers, the absence of adverse effects in this study, and two previous studies on herbal ephedra/caffeine alkaloids, leads one to question how such results can be reconciled with the AERs that have been collected by the Food and Drug Administration (“FDA”). Although possible explanations vary, the researchers stated: “With millions of Americans consuming ephedra containing products, it is obvious that some number of adverse events is expected each year regardless of consumption of these products. The real question is not whether adverse events occur in a population undergoing treatment, but whether these occur at a rate that is higher than that of a matched, untreated group. This is impossible to determine from adverse event reports alone. The randomized, placebo-controlled trial allows evaluation of cause and effect relationships vs coincidental events.”
Conclusion ‚ The researchers stated the following: “Evidence from three completed placebo-controlled clinical trials of herbal ephedra/caffeine is consistent with that from a large number of studies with synthetic ephedrine/caffeine. In total, these suggest that herbal ephedra/caffeine herbal supplements, when used as directed by healthy overweight men and women in combination with healthy diet and exercise habits,may be beneficial for weight reduction without significantly increased risk of adverse events. The current widespread usage of herbal products and the increasing incidence of obesity warrant additional clinical trials to confirm and extend these results*.”
*Read: "Send us more of your federal/private grant money. We need to keep the gravy train going..."
Eizbear
Active member
For you who might have missed it, we just put up another thread with more detailed information on Ultra Reps! Feel free to ask any questions about the product!
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Also, don't forget about our current contest... Where you can win either Slim FX, SuperSize or Ultra Reps !! Easy peasy!
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Also, don't forget about our current contest... Where you can win either Slim FX, SuperSize or Ultra Reps !! Easy peasy!
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T-AD
Well-known member
CUE THE HOUSE MUSIC!!! (Or maybe some Red Friday or something???
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southpaw23
Well-known member
If anyone can gauge the potency and effectiveness of stims it BigT!
thebigt
Legend
back in the day sam used to be on the forum all the time...i asked him what energy pill he recommended, he sent me 3 sample packs of stimx...i have been a ax fan every since-original stimx remains the best damn otc stim i have ever tried!!!!
southpaw23
Well-known member
I liked two versions of stimx, not the last incarnation with 1-Metiq though, just wasn't strong enough for my taste. But I can't wait to try a supp that promises 12 hours of energy, except with these damn contests you have to have a damn PhD in photoshop to win. Bitterness aside...who can I pay off for some Slim FX?
T-AD
Well-known member
You don't have to pay off anybody, nor do you need photochop skillz! The Failz contest, running this week, is all about finding some funny halloween failz pics on teh interwebz. Get your google on and play along!!!
southpaw23
Well-known member
Ok fair enough...how about a 20 spot and a coupon to applebee's?
Eizbear
Active member
Yeah, why don't you give it a shot ? Even if you don't manage to win the first days, it will still continue through out October, it will literally be impossible NOT to win!! Now GO!
Eizbear
Active member
Hey Southpah23! Head over to the contest now already!
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southpaw23
Well-known member
I've been giving it shots, a lot of them, apparently I'm shooting blanks. I guess I need some Axcite Magnum!
(plug)southpaw23
Well-known member
That's what she said.
Eizbear
Active member
I've been giving it shots, a lot of them, apparently I'm shooting blanks. I guess I need some Axcite Magnum!
HA! x)
Slim FX + Magnum... That's a combo I didn't think of!! ;D
thebigt
Legend
sounds like a winner to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eizbear
Active member
The new ultimate Pornstar stack ? Me thinks da ladiez wants this combo as well
Endless combinations
Mrodz
Active member
There seriously are endless variations as the great majority of AX products are designed to be stacked together. Such golden combinations as LeanFX, SlimX, German Creatine and Ultra Reps I can definitely see in my near future Or for the mass oriented MassFX Powerpack with SuperSize those sound preeeetty nifty if u ask me
Or for the mass oriented MassFX Powerpack with SuperSize those sound preeeetty nifty if u ask mesouthpaw23
Well-known member
I want Slim-FX...WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Eizbear
Active member
MEEH!! Be grateful that you live in the US and will receive the product before me!!
Stupid borders!!
BB12
Well-known member
MEEH!! Be grateful that you live in the US and will receive the product before me!!
Stupid borders!!
I'll have to send you some Slim FX in shampoo bottles and SuperSize in a Pringles container
Clever Mouse
New member
Slim Xtreme is where it's at!!! Ooooops, wrong thread and year.. But, holy **** this stuff still takes the cake!
thebigt
Legend
were you able to try the original from around 4-5 years ago?
ax1
Legend
It wasnt that long ago was it? lol
AthleticXtreme
Active member
ax1
Legend
Thanks for the compliments and respect, assuming your not an imperialist American Id like to offer you a visa and a 1 way trip ticket to visit my city and millions of my schoolchildren worshipers.
AthleticXtreme
Active member
Eizbear
Active member
sounds like something to take when i start my cutting cycle
It sure it bro! Can't wait to try this out for next years cut!
New Year's Resolution + Slim FX = <3
Clever Mouse
New member
You mean Stim X first generation? No, I jumped on the ergopharm AMP bandwagon back then which was pretty nice too, before tolerance and stuff kicked in.
I can only guess old Stim X was more "edgy" and not as smooth as SX. New Stim X is "Ok" but definitely not like SX.
Holy moses -- cardio exercise on SX is like having sex with your legs.............
;-)
AthleticXtreme
Active member
I remember recommending the original AMP to everyone. We did not have a product that competed with it at the time (before Stim X). That should have been the product that really took off for them. However 1,3Dymethyl really never went mainstream until Jack3d. I agree with your comparison of Stim X to Slim X. That is pretty accurate.
rochabp
Well-known member
Eizbear
Active member
Talking about 1.3-dim. I bet it will be banned in pretty much the whole Europe any minute now.. (read months or years.. your choice)... More and more countries have banned it/are about to ban it... So it won't be long before popular PWOs like Jack3d, 1.M.R. won't be available with their current formulations... And I wonder how popular they will be after they get re-formulated, as the products have 1.3-dim pretty much as their Key-ingredient.