Androsterone

wfreiling said:
@ZOO
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It can be used solo (but likely favored stacked) like most andro products but more importantly it has a lot of interesting properties. One such being that it has been shown to substantially lower LDL. IIRC correctly it also has positive neuro properties (feel good). Lastly, it seems both convert to and convert from Test/DHT. Backwards compatibility hahaha
 
ZOO said:
It can be used solo (but likely favored stacked) like most andro products but more importantly it has a lot of interesting properties. One such being that it has been shown to substantially lower LDL. IIRC correctly it also has positive neuro properties (feel good). Lastly, it seems both convert to and convert from Test/DHT. Backwards compatibility hahaha
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Cool I’ll give it a go
 
I have Androsterone headed into production. It'll be available before Juice Daddy but do not have an ETA. I need to wait until the correct colored bottles and capsules arrive at the manufacturer.
 
I was going to say make the caps 150mg like you used to for a more attractive price/flexible dosing but I will buy the 250mg ones all the same
 
tubzy said:
Yeah - I saw a that and a few others also that have the andro and epi andro combo but I'm not a fan of them TBH.

Epiandro for me feels way weaker compared to androsterone muscle/strength wise and when I up the dose pretty high (800mg+) it gives me anxiety and I feel overstimulated so I'm not really a fan of it.

From what I recall, androsterone is a GABA-A agonist while epiandro is antagonistic to GABA.


The only thing I caution is don't put too much piperine or grapefruit extract in each androsterone capsule if its dosed fairly low. Then you run into issues of getting too much piperine and grapefruit extract which can bloat you which is annoying since it kind of restricts how high you can go.
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Piperine causes bloat? By what mechanism?
 
Popularity poll:

How do you want to see Androsterone dosed?
a) 150mg x 90 capsules
b) 250mg x 60 capsules
 
ZOO said:
Popularity poll:

How do you want to see Androsterone dosed?
a) 150mg x 90 capsules
b) 250mg x 60 capsules
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Either or for me, I'm just stoked for an oral androsterone option haha. I do like dosing 3x/day so probably the 150 x 90 has my vote. Other wise I'll just have to get an extra bottle and go 250 3/day 🤷‍♂️
 
StrongGuy said:
Either or for me, I'm just stoked for an oral androsterone option haha. I do like dosing 3x/day so probably the 150 x 90 has my vote. Other wise I'll just have to get an extra bottle and go 250 3/day 🤷‍♂️
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I like the idea of selling 2 bottles at once haha ;)
 
You guys keep me going thank you so much for being onboard. And always supporting VLNS.

Production is set to begin by the end of next week or the first part of the week after. Based on this the turnaround until it is available will be 3 weeks roughly.

Another question is if I should keep the name Big Daddy and do the “daddy” thing to play off of Juice Daddy. Or give it an entirely unique flavor. I guess this is something of a marketing question. But I would like the product to be appealing to everyone and not just my weird ideas that come and go by the hour. It’s time to build this supp line back up.
 
Potbelly said:
Any chance of Msten every making a reappearance
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Nope. I’m totally done with that stuff man. They’re going hard after gray area, SARMs, peptides. Not worth it. Plus most manufacturers stopped messing with it now.
 
ZOO said:
You guys keep me going thank you so much for being onboard. And always supporting VLNS.

Production is set to begin by the end of next week or the first part of the week after. Based on this the turnaround until it is available will be 3 weeks roughly.

Another question is if I should keep the name Big Daddy and do the “daddy” thing to play off of Juice Daddy. Or give it an entirely unique flavor. I guess this is something of a marketing question. But I would like the product to be appealing to everyone and not just my weird ideas that come and go by the hour. It’s time to build this supp line back up.
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Papa Andro
 
ZOO said:
Popularity poll:

How do you want to see Androsterone dosed?
a) 150mg x 90 capsules
b) 250mg x 60 capsules
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You could do both potentially depending on how sales go? Also for what it's worth I just saw someone mentioned in another thread they have never seen it dosed over 125mg/cap
 
Oh, I think 150 x 90 for sure. 150 should be a more than a sufficient dose, and more is not always better in this case. IME, lethargy can become a factor- likely something to do with its impact on GABA. Epiandro yields more energy while Androsterone heirs a bit on the sedating side for me.
 
ANABOLICWRWLF said:
You could do both potentially depending on how sales go? Also for what it's worth I just saw someone mentioned in another thread they have never seen it dosed over 125mg/cap
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Yeah, until just now :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

What’s going in along with this for absorption? Bioperine?
 
Lmao at Papa Andro 150 is starting to look like a solid choice based on feedback. All things considered I think it might be the best option.

Ricky10 said:
Yeah, until just now :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

What’s going in along with this for absorption? Bioperine?
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Correct. 5mg per capsule. 💪🏻
 
ZOO said:
Lmao at Papa Andro 150 is starting to look like a solid choice based on feedback. All things considered I think it might be the best option.


Correct. 5mg per capsule.
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Or big daddy diesel, old wwf reference to those that know
 
Big Poppa Pump for the zero stim pre. I’ll get Steiner on the team lol.

It’s been decided everyone. Official dose will be 150mg x 90 caps with 5mg Bioperine.

Also on a side. Looking at making CBD pre and post powder products
 
ZOO said:
Big Poppa Pump for the zero stim pre. I’ll get Steiner on the team lol.

It’s been decided everyone. Official dose will be 150mg x 90 caps with 5mg Bioperine.

Also on a side. Looking at making CBD pre and post powder products
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Please do this
 
Fuuuuuuuuuuck. I received some concerning news (not about me lol) that could jeopardize whether or not this run is completed. To be short and ambiguous I need to ensure the product quality is high and there won’t be issues. Especially since it’s androsterone which is among the most expensive and difficult to acquire. The supply is limited to only one or two places. Anyways. Will be posting updates as I receive them.
 
As of this time there will not be an Androsterone release as was anticipated (but still have it in the pipeline). I made the call to not risk putting out a subpar product. However, I do have some VERY exciting developments regarding VLNS as a brand and the upcoming products. Namely, Juice Daddy and Daft Pump. I will be making a more detailed post about this in the VLNS Rebrand Thread.
 
Not to keep going back and forth on the androsterone but I might have good news for this still :) Updates to come in rebrand thread
 
tubzy said:
Is anyone selling pure androsterone oral caps anymore? Seems like no one is and just in blends
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I've wondered this too, looked but can't find any either. Transdermal works for many, and for me is great with some of the other Andros, but androsterone is kind of the exception. Works best in capsule form, again this is just my personal preference though. It's unfortunate the capsule form market has dried up.
 
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