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Zoo any thoughts on bringing back the 150mg caps of this? Always liked having it for a little boost or for its effects on cholesterol
I think Hi-Tech owns that compound iirc. Pretty sure that’s why I didn’t make it again. Also, it is quite pricey to get an efficacious dose and wasn’t as popular as the EpiAndro in terms of sales. I’ll double check into this though. 💪🏻
 
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Thanks zoo. I’m afraid you might be right but who knows
 
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I saw some on flex it. Might still have some in stock.
 
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Saw that but with transdermal readily available and probably more effective, I don't have much interest.
Agreed. It was for the people looking for capped.
 
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Agreed. It was for the people looking for capped.
Is capped even worth it? I've never run a capped version. I'd assume it needs to be run at a high dosage to notice much of anything.
 
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Is capped even worth it? I've never run a capped version. I'd assume it needs to be run at a high dosage to notice much of anything.
Personally I’m sure I’ve used it in the past, I just don’t remember the brand or dose
 
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Is capped even worth it? I've never run a capped version. I'd assume it needs to be run at a high dosage to notice much of anything.
IML's R-Andro at 600 mg/day (6 caps) is awesome for me, 400 mg was good but 600 was great. Reminded me of Primordial's Androhard v2 from back in the day, I can't really confidently say that about any other andros in recent years. I am using Iconic's Alpha Seven now, just started last week, and am eager to see how it compares. Personally I really like having both TD and capped available for flexibility more than anything.
 

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IML's R-Andro at 600 mg/day (6 caps) is awesome for me, 400 mg was good but 600 was great. Reminded me of Primordial's Androhard v2 from back in the day, I can't really confidently say that about any other andros in recent years. I am using Iconic's Alpha Seven now, just started last week, and am eager to see how it compares. Personally I really like having both TD and capped available for flexibility more than anything.
Same, Super R Andro at 600-800mg per day is the sweet spot. Anything higher than that my joints start to hurt a bit. For me oral has always worked better and also more convenient. Also gives you the freedom to experiment at higher doses without having to lather up your body with lotion.

When I saw that IML discontinued it orally I looked around and no one sells pure called Androsterone anymore. I guess you could buy the pure powder from China but will be gambling without testing it.
 
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Same, Super R Andro at 600-800mg per day is the sweet spot. Anything higher than that my joints start to hurt a bit. For me oral has always worked better and also more convenient. Also gives you the freedom to experiment at higher doses without having to lather up your body with lotion.

When I saw that IML discontinued it orally I looked around and no one sells pure called Androsterone anymore. I guess you could buy the pure powder from China but will be gambling without testing it.
So that's 6-8 caps a day and a bottle consists of 60 caps. That's 10 days a bottle. So this is like epi-andro dosage wise. Somebody should release this in 300mg caps.
 
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Same, Super R Andro at 600-800mg per day is the sweet spot. Anything higher than that my joints start to hurt a bit. For me oral has always worked better and also more convenient. Also gives you the freedom to experiment at higher doses without having to lather up your body with lotion.

When I saw that IML discontinued it orally I looked around and no one sells pure called Androsterone anymore. I guess you could buy the pure powder from China but will be gambling without testing it.
Enhanced Formulations does sell Pro Hard which contains 75 mg androsterone and 150 mg epiandro. I do plan on trying it as well to see if it is a viable replacement. It is the only capsule product currently in production that includes R-Andro that I know of. I'm not a huge fan of epiandro as for me I tend to get a little over aggressive if I go to high on it, but 75 mg androsterone per cap is decent and looks like they have an absorption enhancement added. I'll probably pick up a few bottles and give it a go later in the summer after my Alpha Seven / 3AD stack through this spring.
 

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Enhanced Formulations does sell Pro Hard which contains 75 mg androsterone and 150 mg epiandro. I do plan on trying it as well to see if it is a viable replacement. It is the only capsule product currently in production that includes R-Andro that I know of. I'm not a huge fan of epiandro as for me I tend to get a little over aggressive if I go to high on it, but 75 mg androsterone per cap is decent and looks like they have an absorption enhancement added. I'll probably pick up a few bottles and give it a go later in the summer after my Alpha Seven / 3AD stack through this spring.
Yeah - I saw a that and a few others also that have the andro and epi andro combo but I'm not a fan of them TBH.

Epiandro for me feels way weaker compared to androsterone muscle/strength wise and when I up the dose pretty high (800mg+) it gives me anxiety and I feel overstimulated so I'm not really a fan of it.

From what I recall, androsterone is a GABA-A agonist while epiandro is antagonistic to GABA.


The only thing I caution is don't put too much piperine or grapefruit extract in each androsterone capsule if its dosed fairly low. Then you run into issues of getting too much piperine and grapefruit extract which can bloat you which is annoying since it kind of restricts how high you can go.
 
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Yeah - I saw a that and a few others also that have the andro and epi andro combo but I'm not a fan of them TBH.

Epiandro for me feels way weaker compared to androsterone muscle/strength wise and when I up the dose pretty high (800mg+) it gives me anxiety and I feel overstimulated so I'm not really a fan of it.

From what I recall, androsterone is a GABA-A agonist while epiandro is antagonistic to GABA.


The only thing I caution is don't put too much piperine or grapefruit extract in each androsterone capsule if its dosed fairly low. Then you run into issues of getting too much piperine and grapefruit extract which can bloat you which is annoying since it kind of restricts how high you can go.
alpha seven is 200mg androsterone per dose...this is a hefty dose for a transdermal
 

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alpha seven is 200mg androsterone per dose...this is a hefty dose for a transdermal
Yeah - I may try it at as well. Wasn't on the top of my list since it has 7 Keto and is not pure androsterone.
 
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Hey, guys. Almost forgot to post this but I confirmed that 4-Andro is a patented High-Tech compound so I can’t touch it :/
 
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Has anyone tried Super R Andro topical version in comparison to the oral version? It is androsterone only. Looks like it fairly new on the market.

I ran their Androhard a few years back and liked it.

Not sure if they still make it but it was a 50/50 combo of androsterone and Epi Android. Pure epiandro makes me feel anxious but the combo was nice. Almost thinking of running them again with the 11kt/11oxo drought...
 
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Hey, guys. Almost forgot to post this but I confirmed that 4-Andro is a patented High-Tech compound so I can’t touch it :/
You cannot touch it or it wouldn’t be worth the hassle of messing around with it?
 
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You cannot touch it or it wouldn’t be worth the hassle of messing around with it?
no other co can touch it .. only hi tech and their 10 other lil companies can create them
 
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Is R-Andro Shred by Hard Rock Supplements Androsterone too? It says Di Hydro epiandrosterone; assuming that is same as R Andro from IML or is it just epiandrosterone?
 
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Do they own Iconic and Alpha Gainz?
Some just take the risk but I’m not fucking with HTP. Maybe they can get away with selling it as a topical lotion or some non-supplement type thing. I don’t know the technicals.
 
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no other co can touch it .. only hi tech and their 10 other lil companies can create them
Even if I licensed it from them to sell it I would go broke trying. It would cost a ton, the minimums they would want from me would be astronomical, and the 5-10 guys on here who will actually buy it won’t be able to clear the inventory for me haha
 
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Yeah that doesn’t seem worth it unfortunately. I believe 1-Andro is the same boat. But what about the androsterone or any of the others? I loved the 3ad too
 
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What about 11kt or 11oxo? I don’t recall seeing HTP with either of those?
 
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Yeah that doesn’t seem worth it unfortunately. I believe 1-Andro is the same boat. But what about the androsterone or any of the others? I loved the 3ad too
3AD and Androsterone I will ask about but I am about 99% sure 3AD won't be available due to manufacturer circumstances.
 
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What about 11kt or 11oxo? I don’t recall seeing HTP with either of those?
Those are free game but will they sell is the question hmmmm
 

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Hey, guys. Almost forgot to post this but I confirmed that 4-Andro is a patented High-Tech compound so I can’t touch it :/
No wonder Hi Tech is charging so much, if they out right have patents for most of these andros. I had success with androdiol (4 andro/ laxogenin). However not cost effective at all

Money always better spent on test, and more food
 
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Is R-Andro Shred by Hard Rock Supplements Androsterone too? It says Di Hydro epiandrosterone; assuming that is same as R Andro from IML or is it just epiandrosterone?
Epiandrosterone is actually a metabolite of dihydroepiandrosterone, and not a precursor. Therefore they are different compounds

Androsterone (R Andro) is a downstream hormone, produced in the body from the metabolism of testosterone. Imo this is the BEST andro. In terms of health parameters and well being.

Premier research has an epi andro/ androsterone blend. Although a bit pricey @ only 225 mg per cap. But you get what you pay for and androsterone ain't cheap
 
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So I hear some peps get lethargy from this and some get energy; why would one get lethargic of it? Could be its a gaba agonist??
 

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Imo downstream hormones like androsterone; would be sub optimal, unless someone was already on T. The half live and bioavailability of such hormones are questionable at best.

This could explain the lethargic/ irritability factor, for example, someone using high doses of epi andro/ androsterone, without the administration of T
 
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Imo downstream hormones like androsterone; would be sub optimal, unless someone was already on T. The half live and bioavailability of such hormones are questionable at best.

This could explain the lethargic/ irritability factor; for example someone using high doses of epi andro/ androsterone, without the administration of T
Good info, bro. Thanks for dropping in with the knowledge.
 

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I ran their Androhard a few years back and liked it.
Doubtful IML is still selling this. But they have R andro (androsterone)

The only thing I caution is don't put too much piperine or grapefruit extract in each androsterone capsule if its dosed fairly low. Then you run into issues of getting too much piperine and grapefruit extra
Taking piperine generally should be avoided, completely. If you want benefits of black pepper, season your food

Enhanced Formulations does sell Pro Hard which contains 75 mg androsterone and 150 mg epiandro. I do plan on trying it as well to see if it is a viable replacement.
I wouldn't trust this company, or most of the newer companies around selling andro's and sarms
 
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I ran their Androhard a few years back and liked it.

Not sure if they still make it but it was a 50/50 combo of androsterone and Epi Android. Pure epiandro makes me feel anxious but the combo was nice. Almost thinking of running them again with the 11kt/11oxo drought...
This is still available and it’s made by MuscleGelz (and always has been afaik) Great fukn product...47 on amzn
 
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Doubtful IML is still selling this. But they have R andro (androsterone)



Taking piperine generally should be avoided, completely. If you want benefits of black pepper, season your food



I wouldn't trust this company, or most of the newer companies around selling andro's and sarms
why whats wrong with enhanced formulations? ive been taking their 3ad at 50-75mg per day.
 
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Haha little bit of knowledge! I'm still learning everyday bro, so much to learn
Always, man! Complacency is the flavor of failure.
 
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why whats wrong with enhanced formulations? ive been taking their 3ad at 50-75mg per day.
EF’s 3AD should be good to go unless they changed source. We both went through the same manufacturer for this as it was patent pending to them.
 

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Doubtful IML is still selling this. But they have R andro (androsterone)



Taking piperine generally should be avoided, completely. If you want benefits of black pepper, season your food



I wouldn't trust this company, or most of the newer companies around selling andro's and sarms

I agree - I don't think piperine is necessary to have. I have tried prohormones without any enhancer of bioavailability and it just works.
 

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why whats wrong with enhanced formulations? ive been taking their 3ad at 50-75mg per day.
Honestly I have never tried 3ad. This is an Andro??

Nothing wrong with the purity, just maybe underdosed. Just IMO; never tried enhanced or 3ad

What's your take on the compound, so far?
 
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Honestly I have never tried 3ad. This is an Andro??

Nothing wrong with the purity, just maybe underdosed. Just IMO; never tried enhanced or 3ad

What's your take on the compound, so far?
Its alright, nothing mind blowing. Yes it is an andro.
 

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Can anyone compare androsterone vs stanolone (DHT - either oral or inj)? Are the mental/physical effects similar?

Supposedly pure DHT (stanolone) is much more potent just not many logs of people using it. Could give us a good indicator if androsterone is actually working on its own or due to its conversion to DHT.
 

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Can anyone compare androsterone vs stanolone (DHT - either oral or inj)? Are the mental/physical effects similar?

Supposedly pure DHT (stanolone) is much more potent just not many logs of people using it. Could give us a good indicator if androsterone is actually working on its own or due to its conversion to DHT.
Its a downstream hormone. Conversion to DHT is inevitable. Doubtful anyone is taking pure DHT anymore, as this will destroy you with sides (hair loss/ prostate enlargment, voice changes)

IMO stanolone is an outdated drug
 

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