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From what Eric is saying, I wonder if it would be best used in the same fashion as Sustain Alpha (5 on/2 off).

Potentially, this could be good. I do know Eric said something along the fact that it takes 3-5 days to "kick in," so I am not sure if the on/off protocol would diminish the effect. Very interested in the writeup.
 
Potentially, this could be good. I do know Eric said something along the fact that it takes 3-5 days to "kick in," so I am not sure if the on/off protocol would diminish the effect. Very interested in the writeup.

It seems like something that requires some experimentation for each user.
 
What did you run and what was your PCT? How did everything go?

I'm actually only 3 days into PCT today, so I can't comment on how it went yet. Cycle was Test (20 weeks), Deca (14 weeks), 'Var (5 weeks), and UD (3 weeks) at the end. I started around 195 and am at 215 as of this morning and it wasn't a dirty cycle, but I know that I gained some fat (damn marriage).

PCT is Clomid, Sustain Alpha, TCF-1, and HGHpro. I have some 50% Fenugreek powder that I may add it in if my libido is really lowered.
 
I'm actually only 3 days into PCT today, so I can't comment on how it went yet. Cycle was Test (20 weeks), Deca (14 weeks), 'Var (5 weeks), and UD (3 weeks) at the end. I started around 195 and am at 215 as of this morning and it wasn't a dirty cycle, but I know that I gained some fat (damn marriage).

PCT is Clomid, Sustain Alpha, TCF-1, and HGHpro. I have some 50% Fenugreek powder that I may add it in if my libido is really lowered.

holy!!! i didnt know you went that all out! I really like Clomid, nice natural stack as well. a DAA with a GH booster is pretty ideal in my eyes.

What Mg of Test and Deca? and what is UD? 20 pounds is awesome man! hopefully you have a good PCT. no hcg?
 
holy!!! i didnt know you went that all out! I really like Clomid, nice natural stack as well. a DAA with a GH booster is pretty ideal in my eyes.

What Mg of Test and Deca? and what is UD? 20 pounds is awesome man! hopefully you have a good PCT. no hcg?

There was a bit of rebound weight gain as I just came off of a cut when I started. Doses were moderate: 500mg Test, 300mg Deca (mainly for joints). 'Var was started at week 6 and then the UD (aka Ultradrol) was at 8mg for the last 3 weeks. I used hCG throughout the cycle and had my last shot of that on 9/17. When I ended the cycle, I was the heaviest I've ever been, but only by a few lbs. I've been up to 210 many times, but have to really, really try to get above that and I don't really care what my weight is. My main objective is strength and I got a lot stronger (and smarter) on this cycle.
 
Rodja said:
There was a bit of rebound weight gain as I just came off of a cut when I started. Doses were moderate: 500mg Test, 300mg Deca (mainly for joints). 'Var was started at week 6 and then the UD (aka Ultradrol) was at 8mg for the last 3 weeks. I used hCG throughout the cycle and had my last shot of that on 9/17. When I ended the cycle, I was the heaviest I've ever been, but only by a few lbs. I've been up to 210 many times, but have to really, really try to get above that and I don't really care what my weight is. My main objective is strength and I got a lot stronger (and smarter) on this cycle.

I'm starting to think that I should just aim to get big and fast. Though I do roll in judo I'm at the 90kg weight class but I think it'd be better to not be cutting while I'm learning and trying to get stronger.
Off topic of AM.

Sorry to hijack!
 
There was a bit of rebound weight gain as I just came off of a cut when I started. Doses were moderate: 500mg Test, 300mg Deca (mainly for joints). 'Var was started at week 6 and then the UD (aka Ultradrol) was at 8mg for the last 3 weeks. I used hCG throughout the cycle and had my last shot of that on 9/17. When I ended the cycle, I was the heaviest I've ever been, but only by a few lbs. I've been up to 210 many times, but have to really, really try to get above that and I don't really care what my weight is. My main objective is strength and I got a lot stronger (and smarter) on this cycle.

that is awesome man, pretty sweet cycle!
 
I am looking forward to the Test base stuff you guys got coming out. hope its 100 bucks and not 150-180 this time. I know its hard to get it down in cost. Unlike the reps I am not that stoked for androdrive.
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
I am looking forward to the Test base stuff you guys got coming out. hope its 100 bucks and not 150-180 this time. I know its hard to get it down in cost. Unlike the reps I am not that stoked for androdrive.

Depending on the price I can see androbulk being sold out on the first couple pre orders....
 
I'm actually only 3 days into PCT today, so I can't comment on how it went yet. Cycle was Test (20 weeks), Deca (14 weeks), 'Var (5 weeks), and UD (3 weeks) at the end. I started around 195 and am at 215 as of this morning and it wasn't a dirty cycle, but I know that I gained some fat (damn marriage).

PCT is Clomid, Sustain Alpha, TCF-1, and HGHpro. I have some 50% Fenugreek powder that I may add it in if my libido is really lowered.

Guess a little off topic but;

Are you planning on moving up a weight class then? Go for LHW? Or gonna continue at Middleweight? I guess that is considering you're still going to be doing MMA.
 
Guess a little off topic but;

Are you planning on moving up a weight class then? Go for LHW? Or gonna continue at Middleweight? I guess that is considering you're still going to be doing MMA.

If, and this is a huge IF, I compete again in MMA, it'll be at MW. Right now, I'm prepping for my Doctorate while hoping to get a TA position and there is no way in hell that I could train enough to be in shape. Getting to 195ish would be easy, but, to get to WW, I'd have to walk around at 180ish, and that might kill me at this point.

To keep my competitive fire stoked, I'll be doing some PL'ing and submission grappling as they take a lot less time and there's also not head trauma involved.
 
If, and this is a huge IF, I compete again in MMA, it'll be at MW. Right now, I'm prepping for my Doctorate while hoping to get a TA position and there is no way in hell that I could train enough to be in shape. Getting to 195ish would be easy, but, to get to WW, I'd have to walk around at 180ish, and that might kill me at this point.

To keep my competitive fire stoked, I'll be doing some PL'ing and submission grappling as they take a lot less time and there's also not head trauma involved.

^^^ can rampage do it? i like the guy, but doesnt fight the same, and fear for him being tko'd inside 2rnds
 
^^^ can rampage do it? i like the guy, but doesnt fight the same, and fear for him being tko'd inside 2rnds

Anyone with his power can do it, but I'd go 80/20 Jones for this fight. I've said that if Rampage can keep the fight competitive for the first round, then I would start to favor him and I stand by that assessment.
 
Anyone with his power can do it, but I'd go 80/20 Jones for this fight. I've said that if Rampage can keep the fight competitive for the first round, then I would start to favor him and I stand by that assessment.

when he is 'on' hes a damn good fighter and his exp shines (been in there with everyone really), ill go for him, but if i had to bet money, jones looks alot like the gsp, silva type guys where you wonder 'can anyone do it?'

white is a dictator, he should make that fight, jones vs silva
 
when he is 'on' hes a damn good fighter and his exp shines (been in there with everyone really), ill go for him, but if i had to bet money, jones looks alot like the gsp, silva type guys where you wonder 'can anyone do it?'

white is a dictator, he should make that fight, jones vs silva

I remember when Machida had that same hype train behind him. Wait for him to defend the title 2x before anointing him that highly. The LHW title hasn't been defended more than once since Chuck was champion.
 
I'm actually only 3 days into PCT today, so I can't comment on how it went yet. Cycle was Test (20 weeks), Deca (14 weeks), 'Var (5 weeks), and UD (3 weeks) at the end. I started around 195 and am at 215 as of this morning and it wasn't a dirty cycle, but I know that I gained some fat (damn marriage).

PCT is Clomid, Sustain Alpha, TCF-1, and HGHpro. I have some 50% Fenugreek powder that I may add it in if my libido is really lowered.

Now that's a real cycle right there ;) How'd you like UD and what'd you run var at?
 
Loved the UD and 'Var was at 50mg.

Did you notice if the UD was wet or dry? I really want to pick it up for my next bulk but if it's too wet i'll just go with superdrol. and Nice dosage on the var, currently running 80mg of var myself.
 
Did you notice if the UD was wet or dry? I really want to pick it up for my next bulk but if it's too wet i'll just go with superdrol. and Nice dosage on the var, currently running 80mg of var myself.

It was dry. I will say that it is a glycogen monster a la SD and I had to eat more fruit and potatoes than normal.
 
I remember when Machida had that same hype train behind him. Wait for him to defend the title 2x before anointing him that highly. The LHW title hasn't been defended more than once since Chuck was champion.

people for forget this way to often. 205, although is a mess is my favorite weight class.
 
I got an email for PP's end of summer sale. I went to the web site, but I did not see sale prices. Also, is Derm all gone?
 
You'll see the sale prices when you click on the actual products and yes, Dermacrine is all gone.

Here is a cut and paste of the prices from the email:
50% off of the following -

-Sustain Alpha (topical or LV) - $24.97

-AndroLean - $39.97

-Dermacrine - $24.97

40% off of the following -

-Testosterone Conversion Factor-1 -$17.97

-Dermatherm Target - $23.97

30% off of the following -

-Toco-8 - $20.96

-Phyto-Testosterone - $34.96

-Liver Juice - $13.96

20% off of the following -

-EndoAmp Max - $42.36

10% off EVERTHING ELSE!
 
It should also be 30% off of the TRS (which was added a couple of days after the sale began). Like I said, when you go to pp.com, click on a specific product ans you'll see the sale price(s).
 
Derm is still available just contact a rep
Tried to PM you Ryansm, your box is full. That link you sent me is not a good idea right now. No one is getting their orders & no one from the company is responding to the customers. Just wanted to let you know.
 
I was going to get AL. I ran 1 bottle & liked it. Not dramatic, but I just felt real good on it. If the sale & AL lasts through the weekend, then I will order it on Monday. (for later use)

I just started a AH & trenazone cycle.

Nice@]!

Tried to PM you Ryansm, your box is full. That link you sent me is not a good idea right now. No one is getting their orders & no one from the company is responding to the customers. Just wanted to let you know.

From my understanding they were locked down due to an investigation related to the SNS incident.
 
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