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Andromass

lol why are these new PP products so damn expensive, fill me in on these, I just checked their site the other day as Ive always enjoyed their products and saw these...


To give you the short hand, acquiring the base hormones with an ester as well as the complexity of the delivery system causes the product to have a remarkably high (given industry standard) cost of production, even on a per unit basis.
 
Check out the 111 page "The Future of Primordial Performance" thread in the Company Promotions section. Your question has literally been asked and answered a hundred times over...

Yah but we did make this thread specifically for Andromass questions. If one is the price, hell, we'll oblige.
 
lol why are these new PP products so damn expensive, fill me in on these, I just checked their site the other day as Ive always enjoyed their products and saw these...

The cost of these is easily justifiable considering the LEGALITY, absence of Liver toxicity, and delivery system
 
The cost of these is easily justifiable considering the LEGALITY, absence of Liver toxicity, and delivery system

Agreed. 3rd party quality testing is a big plus too. Some companies, imo, will just throw **** into a cap and sell it.
 
Did anyone say for sure that if you run lean & mass you should do 4 & 4, rather than 6 & 6? For a 6 week cycle instead of 4 week.
 
Did anyone say for sure that if you run lean & mass you should do 4 & 4, rather than 6 & 6? For a 6 week cycle instead of 4 week.

Lean and Mass I would run Mass for 4 weeks and Lean for 6 but that isn't the best option imo. All of the AndroSeries products will provide great results at 4 weeks.
 
Lean and Mass I would run Mass for 4 weeks and Lean for 6 but that isn't the best option imo. All of the AndroSeries products will provide great results at 4 weeks.

I have already started an androlean cycle. I have ordered another lean & a mass. Do you think they are best as seperate cycles then? I was thinking of using them together, but now I am thinking of extending my lean cycle to 6 weeks and use the andromass as seperate cycle later on down the road.
 
Lean and Mass I would run Mass for 4 weeks and Lean for 6 but that isn't the best option imo. All of the AndroSeries products will provide great results at 4 weeks.

^^THIS^^ I'm 5 days from the 4 week mark, and I verify you will get great results in 4 weeks from androlean. You won't be disappointed
 
I have already started an androlean cycle. I have ordered another lean & a mass. Do you think they are best as seperate cycles then? I was thinking of using them together, but now I am thinking of extending my lean cycle to 6 weeks and use the andromass as seperate cycle later on down the road.

Yes, I see it best to accomplish a set goal first, so if you were cutting then continue with the lean. Run a light PCT after 6 weeks, recoup and re-evaluate from there. If you are ready to put on some size then set that as your new gaol and run AM.
 
Yes, I see it best to accomplish a set goal first, so if you were cutting then continue with the lean. Run a light PCT after 6 weeks, recoup and re-evaluate from there. If you are ready to put on some size then set that as your new gaol and run AM.

Thanks, will do. I was thinking the same. I just have lost a lot a of muscle over the last few years. Now that i have cut down I was feeling small.
Thanks
 
Thanks, will do. I was thinking the same. I just have lost a lot a of muscle over the last few years. Now that i have cut down I was feeling small.
Thanks

What have you noticed from the lean? I ordered some andromass as well but thinking about adding the lean since it is so cheap with the coupon codes out now.
 
Thanks, will do. I was thinking the same. I just have lost a lot a of muscle over the last few years. Now that i have cut down I was feeling small.
Thanks

Then why not recomp and just run AM or even AH solo. Just increase cals slowly and be diligent about keeping stringent.
 
What have you noticed from the lean? I ordered some andromass as well but thinking about adding the lean since it is so cheap with the coupon codes out now.

I am 2 weeks in. I have not noticed any thermic effect & no extra sweating. I have leaned out some more. I have been on a mild cut for about almost 3 months. I lost 12-13 lbs. I have lost another 2-3 lbs in the last 2 weeks, but it is very noticable. I burp a lot of grapefruit taste from the pills. I use Recreate a few days a week, and the androlean really increases it's effects. I feel really lean at the end of those days and it also curbs my appitite on those days too. I have got 2 zits on my back in the last day (rarely get those when not on something). No strength increases, but my workouts are not really geared toward that at the moment. Endurance has been good, which is an area I usually lack in. I still have 2 weeks left, so I'll see how it goes. I took pics at the begining, so I may post my before and after if it is significant.
 
Then why not recomp and just run AM or even AH solo. Just increase cals slowly and be diligent about keeping stringent.

I should have gone with the AH, but now I am 2 weeks into AL. I have also ordered AM, which I will use at another time. I went with AL because of price & I have not used PP products before. I wanted to give that a try before invested more money. In hind sight I should have gone with AH, as I have lost about as much weight as I want too. Not as lean as I would like, but that is because the last time I was at this weight i had more muscle.
Thanks for the help.
 
I should have gone with the AH, but now I am 2 weeks into AL. I have also ordered AM, which I will use at another time. I went with AL because of price & I have not used PP products before. I wanted to give that a try before invested more money. In hind sight I should have gone with AH, as I have lost about as much weight as I want too. Not as lean as I would like, but that is because the last time I was at this weight i had more muscle.
Thanks for the help.

From your post above it sounds like you are recomping now...or at least since you are as lean as you want to be, maybe you could start adding back in cals slowly and see what happens. Just some thoughts, but it looks like you will be set for AM after this.
 
I am 2 weeks in. I have not noticed any thermic effect & no extra sweating. I have leaned out some more. I have been on a mild cut for about almost 3 months. I lost 12-13 lbs. I have lost another 2-3 lbs in the last 2 weeks, but it is very noticable. I burp a lot of grapefruit taste from the pills. I use Recreate a few days a week, and the androlean really increases it's effects. I feel really lean at the end of those days and it also curbs my appitite on those days too. I have got 2 zits on my back in the last day (rarely get those when not on something). No strength increases, but my workouts are not really geared toward that at the moment. Endurance has been good, which is an area I usually lack in. I still have 2 weeks left, so I'll see how it goes. I took pics at the begining, so I may post my before and after if it is significant.

Regardless of what most people say/think, 7-keto doesn't usually give a lot of thermogenic side effects. It's a very powerful cortisol modulator, has been shown to reduce estrogen (a study I can link to if someone wishes to see it) and the 5-DHEA is also a decent thermogenic in its own right. The test base included, you'll certainly be shedding fat with a decent caloric deficit while maintaining muscle mass. Invalid Link Removed
 
Interested in this AndroMass for sure. If its not Liver Toxic. Curious on the stacking of Oral Turinabol with it. Although Oral Turinabol is liver toxic, easily manageable vs DBOL(very toxic) with Milk Thistle and Liv52.
 
I wouldn't say dianabol is very liver toxic, but Turinabol-LV would be easier on the liver and lipids. Throw in Liver Juice, ALA and NAC and you're set.
 
I wouldn't say dianabol is very liver toxic, but Turinabol-LV would be easier on the liver and lipids. Throw in Liver Juice, ALA and NAC and you're set.

Agreed, and I believe one of the reps is running something similar:)
 
So basically AndroMASS is safe to stack with pretty much anything as long as getting normal blood work done. This stuff will be amazing if all goes as planned. I'm excited. Don't post ever but this has got my attention.
 
So basically AndroMASS is safe to stack with pretty much anything as long as getting normal blood work done. This stuff will be amazing if all goes as planned. I'm excited. Don't post ever but this has got my attention.

I'd say you're right on the money with this statement.
 
I'm going to run AndroMass and AndroHard together. What's the official suggestion for PCT or is there a need for it with these two products? Thanks.
 
I'm going to run AndroMass and AndroHard together. What's the official suggestion for PCT or is there a need for it with these two products? Thanks.

I've seen some people say the trs+tcf-1 will suffice, I however would opt for torem and then whatever else you may choose, whether it be the trs, or even just the resveratrol from the sustain to give you a boost. I'm doing andromass 8 weeks and will be doing this for pct:
Torem weeks 1-4
TRS+tcf-1 weeks 3-6
 
I've seen some people say the trs+tcf-1 will suffice, I however would opt for torem and then whatever else you may choose, whether it be the trs, or even just the resveratrol from the sustain to give you a boost. I'm doing andromass 8 weeks and will be doing this for pct:
Torem weeks 1-4
TRS+tcf-1 weeks 3-6

Thanks man.
 
So basically AndroMASS is safe to stack with pretty much anything as long as getting normal blood work done. This stuff will be amazing if all goes as planned. I'm excited. Don't post ever but this has got my attention.

Welcome to the forum JM! We would like to hear any feedback you have on Andromass when you get around to it.
 
I'll be running a 4 week cycle of AM, 3 pills wake up and 3 pills pre workout. It does say to take pills within 6-8 hours, so if I took when I wake up, I don't get to the gym until around 10-12 hours later. Should I dose a little later during work or right away when I wake up and then within 6-8 hours later?

My cycle is so far:
Sarms MK2866 - 25mg weeks 1-4
AndroMass - 6 pills weeks 5-8
Sarms Mk2866 - 25mg 9-12
TRS - as directed 9-12
TCF-1 - as directed 9-12

Any insight on anything else I should be doing on this?
 
I'll be running a 4 week cycle of AM, 3 pills wake up and 3 pills pre workout. It does say to take pills within 6-8 hours, so if I took when I wake up, I don't get to the gym until around 10-12 hours later. Should I dose a little later during work or right away when I wake up and then within 6-8 hours later?

My cycle is so far:
Sarms MK2866 - 25mg weeks 1-4
AndroMass - 6 pills weeks 5-8
Sarms Mk2866 - 25mg 9-12
TRS - as directed 9-12
TCF-1 - as directed 9-12

Any insight on anything else I should be doing on this?

Looks very nice to me. Maybe just throw in Nolva? It's so easy to get, so why not? I'm not really a fan of OTC PCT, I just think Serms are to easy to get not to use them.
 
Recovery is secondary to the lesser hepatoxicity profile. Plus, I don't feel like death and without a libido with Toremifene.
 
I'll be running a 4 week cycle of AM, 3 pills wake up and 3 pills pre workout. It does say to take pills within 6-8 hours, so if I took when I wake up, I don't get to the gym until around 10-12 hours later. Should I dose a little later during work or right away when I wake up and then within 6-8 hours later?

My cycle is so far:
Sarms MK2866 - 25mg weeks 1-4
AndroMass - 6 pills weeks 5-8
Sarms Mk2866 - 25mg 9-12
TRS - as directed 9-12
TCF-1 - as directed 9-12

Any insight on anything else I should be doing on this?

Dosing is goin to become a topic of debate down the road imo. You could possibly start kicking around the idea of dosing 3 times a day: when you wake up, 4 hours later and then again 4 hours later. Dont mean to confuse you bro, just trying to perhaps open your mind to other ideas of dosing.
 
I wish I had grabbed some for my upcoming cycle, instead of using the last of my Clomid I have on hand. On the plus side, no more "i already have it" excuse..

Reading up on how this will quickly clear the system at night, thus making it easier to recover in pct. It really makes me want to run Andromass for 8 weeks and only use hcg intermittingly in the cycle and after..
 
AndroMASS is equal to approx. 430mg of Test E a week. Just a few questions. Upping the dosage to attempt to equal 500mg-1g of Test E/week would be safe? This has no sides as of normal orals. Also, does it kick in faster than Test E's 4 week wait time and along those lines after last dose is taken do you start PCT right away? Whats the wait time if not?

Curious to know when I buy a couple bottles if I should run a 6 week or 8 week vs a 12 week cycle since its in comparison to Test E
 
I wish I had grabbed some for my upcoming cycle, instead of using the last of my Clomid I have on hand. On the plus side, no more "i already have it" excuse..

For 40 bucks, my rat's nuts are worth it. I'm actually consideirng grabbing epi to make using the serm really worth it. I was to see his nuts sweelllll.
 
Why doesn't Eric Potratz try his own stuff out and do blood work before and after?

U might as well, it will be better advertisement than the ones bout being 300,000 in the hole and creating the greatest steroids


Eric, run a log with before/after pics and blood work, if all goes well, ill pick this stack up.

There are a copious amount of logs already being ran for AL and AH showing its efficacy. AM is yet to ship, but the delivery system is already proven so there is absolutely no reason AM will not be everything we say it is.
 
AndroMASS is equal to approx. 430mg of Test E a week. Just a few questions. Upping the dosage to attempt to equal 500mg-1g of Test E/week would be safe? This has no sides as of normal orals. Also, does it kick in faster than Test E's 4 week wait time and along those lines after last dose is taken do you start PCT right away? Whats the wait time if not?

Curious to know when I buy a couple bottles if I should run a 6 week or 8 week vs a 12 week cycle since its in comparison to Test E

You could bump the dose, but the difference is negligible. The ester in these do not reflect the same it will act like a fast acting ester such as prop, so 8-10 weeks tops imo would be the max to run it. Sides are minimal, and certainly no comparison in sides with methylated orals.
 
I'm going to be picking up a bottle of AndroLean and was wondering what the best combination would be when using it alongside AndroMass... Should I start with AL and finish with AM, start with AL and introduce AM during the third week, or run both together at a lower or the recommended dosage?
 
if Eric has no issue showing his face in every advertisement and putting his signature in every advertisement then i would feel he would of been the first person to take the product.

Apparently you don't ****ing get it.

He's a scientist, professional, etc.. i'm more concerned with him doing study research and providing me with safe products than I am in how much he benches.

Simple solution -- don't buy the product.
 
I never trust a skinny chef nor a fat ass for health advice.

thats me tho and im not a gullible *****


im not saying the products dont work but if your advertising the way he does i want him to back it up, i have to see his ****ing face every time I log on here and read bout him being 300,000 down the hole.


a better marketing scheme is him just logging him taking the product and leave the politics for the democratic and republican parties

i second this. i want to be convinced before i drop big bucks
 
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