ANDROMASS log

how the hell did my name get thrown into that? funny, never posted that.
princeshock said:
Yeah i've put on significant mass.

apoxtle: Yeah it would seem suspicious wouldn't it lol.

but anyway, i want to start taking t3 but I don't know if andromass is strong enough to combat the muscle losing effects of the t3. Hmm.......
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i saw that post on this thread earlier, must have been deleted or something
 
princeshock said:
Well the sudden change came from the following:

-Being able to workout for hours on end
-really awesome pumps
-size difference

So it is actually pretty good stuff. Although I would like to see more from it but perhaps v3 will be more effective.
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I think more advanced lifters might need 9 caps to see the full effectiveness of v2 andromass. We've yet to see what V3 will do, but I have a feeling it'll be more effective.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
I think more advanced lifters might need 9 caps to see the full effectiveness of v2 andromass. We've yet to see what V3 will do, but I have a feeling it'll be more effective.
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with an additional 3 caps...would you recommend shortening the cycle length?
 
so 9 caps 6 weeks?
 
fightbackhxc said:
what is the possibility of testicular damage at 8 weeks?
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It depends. I know that free radicals can damage the testes during ANY steroid cycle, no matter the length. It's one of the reasons people have a harder and harder time recovering from multiple/longer steroid cycles. I don't know what the difference would be with two 4 weekers or one 8 weeker. Toco-8 is designed to fight these free radicals, that's why I use it all the time. Not to turn this into an advertisement.

My recommendation is 6 weeks at 9 caps or 8 weeks at 6 caps. But 8 weeks is certainly the point of diminishing returns.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
It depends. I know that free radicals can damage the testes during ANY steroid cycle, no matter the length. It's one of the reasons people have a harder and harder time recovering from multiple/longer steroid cycles. I don't know what the difference would be with two 4 weekers or one 8 weeker. Toco-8 is designed to fight these free radicals, that's why I use it all the time. Not to turn this into an advertisement.

My recommendation is 6 weeks at 9 caps or 8 weeks at 6 caps. But 8 weeks is certainly the point of diminishing returns.
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Oh I can vouch for Toco 8. Love the stuff. So Toco8 and DAA on cycle to mitigate...along with some L-Dopa...sound like a good run for 8 weeks? Do you think that would mitigate testicular damage?
 
Rodja said:
By damage, do you mean atrophy?
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correct. I have heard long periods of intaking exogenous hormones can cause permanent testicular atrophy.
 
fightbackhxc said:
correct. I have heard long periods of intaking exogenous hormones can cause permanent testicular atrophy.
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I don't think it'll help to prevent it (nothing outside of hCG really can), but it will help to reduce said damage. Also, it's not like running 1g of test and tren for 20 weeks.
 
Holly balls... 20+ weeks?! What kind of dosage / results did they have?

Although I probably would never be able to lay off the booze for 20 weeks.
 
bla55 said:
Holly balls... 20+ weeks?! What kind of dosage / results did they have?

Although I probably would never be able to lay off the booze for 20 weeks.
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It was for gyno reduction which a lot had great success with
 
mattrag said:
20 weeks and Id probably lose all the hair I have left on my head.... hahah
Nice to know its not very suppressive.
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Yeah I was pretty suprised to learn that myself. I didnt lose any hair while using AH version1 and in fact my hair became thicker and more coarse.
 
mattrag said:
20 weeks and Id probably lose all the hair I have left on my head.... hahah
Nice to know its not very suppressive.
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Yah, I had bloods done 2 weeks after a 6 weeker with AH and total T came back in the 800s. I think the fact it has anti-ER capabilities is what makes it so much less suppressive than other compounds.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Yah, I had bloods done 2 weeks after a 6 weeker with AH and total T came back in the 800s. I think the fact it has anti-ER capabilities is what makes it so much less suppressive than other compounds.
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Nice to know. :). I postponing my log of AH for now till late nov or so. I can't put up the funds for a serm ATM. But when I do run it, it'll be logged. :)
 
mattrag said:
Nice to know. :). I postponing my log of AH for now till late nov or so. I can't put up the funds for a serm ATM. But when I do run it, it'll be logged. :)
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Good to see you get all PCT supplies before starting the cycle
 
mattrag said:
Thats the only way to start any cycle IMO. So much can go wrong, the last thing you want to go wrong is not being prepared. Specially because this, over anything else, can be prevented.
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Ill 3rd this. When preperation meets opportunity it equals success.
 
Princeshock MIA.
 
mattrag said:
Nice to know. :). I postponing my log of AH for now till late nov or so. I can't put up the funds for a serm ATM. But when I do run it, it'll be logged. :)
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how much do you need to save for a serm? they can be found for dirt cheap. not bashing or anything. i also agree that it's best to have everything before you start your cycle.
 
apoxtle said:
how much do you need to save for a serm? they can be found for dirt cheap. not bashing or anything. i also agree that it's best to have everything before you start your cycle.
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Some prefer not to go the research chem route and get pharm grade.
 
Well the andromass cycle is over and i'm not really happy. It didn't really do that much for me. I don't think i'm going to bother getting more, its TOO EXPENSIVE for what it does, this stuff should not be 100 bucks at all. I'm really sick of supplement company's..this is pretty much the last time I get something from one of these company's. I'm not even that surprised since there was a number of bad feedback's and even bad feedback from some football player on another board. I really don't think ill be touching supplements again..sorry for being so blunt but i'm getting sick of this..
 
What happened in the 8 days between where you stated it was kicking in and you were enjoying it and now?
 
Yeah I thought it was doing good for me but it was just helping somewhat. I thought it was doing more than it was...I wouldn't be saying the things I am if it was cheap though, but Effects given to price RATIO isn't good. This stuff is pretty weak compared to any prohormone ive taken.
 
princeshock said:
Yeah I thought it was doing good for me but it was just helping somewhat. I thought it was doing more than it was...I wouldn't be saying the things I am if it was cheap though, but Effects given to price RATIO isn't good. This stuff is pretty weak compared to any prohormone ive taken.
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What about results to toxicity ratio? :)
 
this thread is wack!!!!!! first its not working, then its working, then its not working. This dude is all over the place very dissapointed I really wanna try this but its hard reading logs like this:wtf:
 
There are way to many factors that determine success with otc and illegal hormonal products... Diet, rest, training, prior cycles, etc all contribute to the gains made in a cycle... This stuff isn't injectable test by any means and to expect 20-30 lbs is pretty unrealistic...
The way I look at this product is, while it is a bit overpriced, it does seem to work. 10 +/- ish lbs of lbm is right about what one can expect without the harshness of methylated products... Most logs I've read have been honest and positive, because it seems most realize 20-30 lbs is a stretch...
Logger, If you want big gains, your gonna have to take bigger risks... Just my humble opinion...For those not ready for injectable or methylated hormonal products, this product is a good ease into our dark little world...
Sorry friends, Long rant over, I'm in Hawaii on vacation Beyotches... Beach time baby!!!
 
Can you please send some of that rain to central Texas. It has barely rained here in the past 6 months and this freaking drought is getting awful.
 
Rodja said:
Can you please send some of that rain to central Texas. It has barely rained here in the past 6 months and this freaking drought is getting awful.
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Dang living in Texas must be rough too. If I could I would buddy! At least you have A/C there (I hope). My work place believes we should save electricity so we just open the windows...
 
mattrag said:
Dang living in Texas must be rough too. If I could I would buddy! At least you have A/C there (I hope). My work place believes we should save electricity so we just open the windows...
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Yeah, we have A/C. I have no idea how they did it 50 years ago without it.
 
HereToStudy said:
It is starting to get cold here in Chicago. I HATE YOU.


Just kidding, enjoy the beach bud.
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i hear ya bud, downstate is getting cold too
 
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