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AndroMass - Gain 8-12lbs of lean mass – SAFELY – in 4-6 weeks.

hoopem6 said:
Basically, AndroMass is expected to ship out on the 25th of April, or May 2nd depending on when you ordered (oldest orders ship first). And, because of these delays, Primordial Performance has extended a 50% off coupon code valid towards the purchase of any one product to be added to your AndroMass order.
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Correct
 
I took advantage of the coupon and ordered another AM, 3 now! The coupon is good PR but the explanation from Eric does more for the image of the company.
 
curls said:
I took advantage of the coupon and ordered another AM, 3 now! The coupon is good PR but the explanation from Eric does more for the image of the company.
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Glad you took advantage of the coupon and another Andromass would've been my choice too.
 
princeshock said:
i think the androhard and mass even with there coupon is still in the 100$'s..not quiet a good deal..
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Androhard + Andromass would be roughly 330, with already getting 20% off the andromass it would be 290, then with 50 off the hard it would be 240. Almost 30% saving on the total order :blink:
 
Markusrulezzz said:
240 / 3 payments - 80 bucks a month

I will wait for some logs and then do that
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Markus.. I hate to rain on your parade, but I dont think you'll get that discount unless you get one from a rep, but you'd have to run a log to recieve it- small price to pay. When your ready to try it and would like to run a log, hit me up.
 
one question about these pro hormones especially andromass, hard, and lean.

are they water base? meaning that the weigh that you gain are just water being pumped into your muscles and not new muscle cells being created. is that how the muscle cells are made bigger by prohormones like Andromass, hard, lean, etc.??

Long R3 IGF-1 actually helps create new muscle cells.
 
x_danny_x said:
one question about these pro hormones especially andromass, hard, and lean.

are they water base? meaning that the weigh that you gain are just water being pumped into your muscles and not new muscle cells being created. is that how the muscle cells are made bigger by prohormones like Andromass, hard, lean, etc.??

Long R3 IGF-1 actually helps create new muscle cells.
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They make growth faster, it's not just water:P I promise.
 
So many just waiting to see the logs and the others cant wait to use it.
 
x_danny_x said:
so it creates new muscle cells like IGF-1 R3 or makes them grow bigger without pumping water?

are you a rep for the company?
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Hyperplasia only occurs in theory. Even then, it will still be mainly water since ~70% of the human mass is water.

He is not a rep for the company.
 
Rodja said:
Hyperplasia only occurs in theory. Even then, it will still be mainly water since ~70% of the human mass is water.

He is not a rep for the company.
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so then IGF-R3 basically builds muscle almost the sameway as prohormones? i would assume that prohormones are still stronger.


reading a few threads on IGF-R3, i thought it was a given that it does build new muscle cells.
 
x_danny_x said:
so then IGF-R3 basically builds muscle almost the sameway as prohormones? i would assume that prohormones are still stronger.


reading a few threads on IGF-R3, i thought it was a given that it does build new muscle cells.
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IGF-1 = hyperplasia

Steroids = hypertrophy with minimal hyperplasia

IGF-1 + steroids = win
 
Correct. Let me add:

IGF-1: Expedites most cancerous activity.

Steroids can aggravate cancerous activity via exessive hormonal activity (mainly noted in the prostate and in the liver with orals)

IGF-1 + steroids = "MAY" predispse some to a pre-cancerous enviroment thus seting the stage for cancerous activity.

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TheKanezzi said:
IGF-1 = hyperplasia

Steroids = hypertrophy with minimal hyperplasia

IGF-1 + steroids = win
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minimal hyperplasia?


is IGF-R3 through needles or can they be taken orally or applied through the skin?

Androlean, mass, hard are through the skin or is it orally only?
 
i see, well at least the Androseries does produce some new muscle cells/hyperplasia to some degree.

though i didnt know it was in theory for both.
 
Even weight training will lead to some hyperplasia due to the release of igf, hgh, etc. The amount of satellite cells created though are not very high. Igf works well in pct though, I've had a few buddies run it at a very low dose, immediately post workout, and only spot injected in weak areas. Dose was around 5-10mcg per side three times weekly, worked well and no noticeable side effects.
 
Rodja said:
Where are you getting that they produce hyperplasia?
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from TheKanezzi post. he said steroids causes minimal hyperplasia, so the Androseries are steroids.


Whacked said:
Correct. Let me add:

IGF-1: Expedites most cancerous activity.

Steroids can aggravate cancerous activity via exessive hormonal activity (mainly noted in the prostate and in the liver with orals)

IGF-1 + steroids = "MAY" predispse some to a pre-cancerous enviroment thus seting the stage for cancerous activity.
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what is the % of that occurring? this thing worries me but i believe it is low since steroids are basically legal now and also IGF as well.
 
x_danny_x said:
from TheKanezzi post. he said steroids causes minimal hyperplasia, so the Androseries are steroids.





what is the % of that occurring? this thing worries me but i believe it is low since steroids are basically legal now and also IGF as well.
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Minimal, if any. The only thing that has some evidence to cause this would be the injectable growth factor peptides.
 
HATEFULone said:
Even weight training will lead to some hyperplasia due to the release of igf, hgh, etc. The amount of satellite cells created though are not very high. Igf works well in pct though, I've had a few buddies run it at a very low dose, immediately post workout, and only spot injected in weak areas. Dose was around 5-10mcg per side three times weekly, worked well and no noticeable side effects.
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Hate, when you say it worked well for them, can you be more specific please? Btw, interesting stuff.
 
rulk22 said:
Hate, when you say it worked well for them, can you be more specific please? Btw, interesting stuff.
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The worry with igf lr3 is that its affinity doesn't really differentiate between muscle, bone, intestinal, etc cell types. Depending on many factors only so much of the igf can be absorbed by each muscle. I have read studies both supporting and negating the benefits of receptor affinity immediately post workout, but I like the idea. According to some studies the period about 15 minutes post workout, some say even less, the muscle you worked has a much increased receptor affinity to igf. So my theory was you spot inject, being subcutaneous, the muscle would have a higher absorption wherever injected. Using smaller doses is more economical and also would hopefully leave little igf to be circulated to other tissues. The reason I say it worked well is 1) No side effects, it is now 4 years later and still no sides typically associated with use. 2) Fat loss equivalent to much higher doses some other people have used. 3) Increased injury recovery, one guy had his knee done. 4) Strength continued to increase even after a full pct and then being off aas for over 2 months.
 
HATEFULone said:
The worry with igf lr3 is that its affinity doesn't really differentiate between muscle, bone, intestinal, etc cell types. Depending on many factors only so much of the igf can be absorbed by each muscle. I have read studies both supporting and negating the benefits of receptor affinity immediately post workout, but I like the idea. According to some studies the period about 15 minutes post workout, some say even less, the muscle you worked has a much increased receptor affinity to igf. So my theory was you spot inject, being subcutaneous, the muscle would have a higher absorption wherever injected. Using smaller doses is more economical and also would hopefully leave little igf to be circulated to other tissues. The reason I say it worked well is 1) No side effects, it is now 4 years later and still no sides typically associated with use. 2) Fat loss equivalent to much higher doses some other people have used. 3) Increased injury recovery, one guy had his knee done. 4) Strength continued to increase even after a full pct and then being off aas for over 2 months.
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Injecting in a gym locker room?
 
ryansm said:
Injecting in a gym locker room?
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Have everything ready to go, go into a stall, keep it clean, draw and inject. If you have a cool gym just do it right in the open, anyone questions it say you are a diabetic and its insulin. I do see the issue many would have with bringing stuff in public, but if you just bring one tiny slin pin you are all good.
 
HATEFULone said:
Have everything ready to go, go into a stall, keep it clean, draw and inject. If you have a cool gym just do it right in the open, anyone questions it say you are a diabetic and its insulin. I do see the issue many would have with bringing stuff in public, but if you just bring one tiny slin pin you are all good.
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I think the stall would be a better option. i can't see many stating "oh, ok...its your insulin, for a second there I thought you were using steroids."
 
HATEFULone said:
The worry with igf lr3 is that its affinity doesn't really differentiate between muscle, bone, intestinal, etc cell types. Depending on many factors only so much of the igf can be absorbed by each muscle. I have read studies both supporting and negating the benefits of receptor affinity immediately post workout, but I like the idea. According to some studies the period about 15 minutes post workout, some say even less, the muscle you worked has a much increased receptor affinity to igf. So my theory was you spot inject, being subcutaneous, the muscle would have a higher absorption wherever injected. Using smaller doses is more economical and also would hopefully leave little igf to be circulated to other tissues. The reason I say it worked well is 1) No side effects, it is now 4 years later and still no sides typically associated with use. 2) Fat loss equivalent to much higher doses some other people have used. 3) Increased injury recovery, one guy had his knee done. 4) Strength continued to increase even after a full pct and then being off aas for over 2 months.
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Im goin to go out on a limb and say this is pretty bad-ass... I can already envision how I can do this too .
 
Hate, any cool insights to hcg? Im goin to be looking at getting a script for it and id like to hear any cool "tips".
 
rulk22 said:
Hate, any cool insights to hcg? Im goin to be looking at getting a script for it and id like to hear any cool "tips".
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I personally haven't used hcg yet, I will be from now on though. Depending on what you are looking for I can recommend different dosage schemes, but really 250 iu subcutaneous twice weekly injections should do you well. Some guys run it higher for a shorter period of time, but I like the low and slow theory, just like my barbecue. Obviously don't run it during pct. Some guys dose it a day after their test while others the same day, all depends on what you like.
 
hCG is a must have when running multiple anabolics for an extended period of time. The 250IU 2x/week protocol is standard and works in almost all instances.
 
Rodja said:
hCG is a must have when running multiple anabolics for an extended period of time. The 250IU 2x/week protocol is standard and works in almost all instances.
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I'm wondering how well the new taurus product in terms of bringing back HPTA shutdown. Would be nice if it could be stacked with the Androseries it keep it 100% legal.
 
I'm not really sure how much calcium lactate will help with shutdown.

On a side note, I have some DES to play with in the near future.
 
Rodja said:
hCG is a must have when running multiple anabolics for an extended period of time. The 250IU 2x/week protocol is standard and works in almost all instances.
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I plan on running an extended cycle of various Androseries products. Im thinking of starting it by the 6th week of the cycle and continue from there untill the end. Im also looking into using it during my pct.
 
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