Androhard vs Androlean PP

JudoJosh said:
I know the racetams have become questionable in regards to their legal status.. what about Choline, Hup A, rosemary, MAO-A and/or B inhibitors (rhodiola rosea, resveratrol, curcumin, etc), passion flower, ginseng, bacopa monniera or any other adaptogens (ashwaganda) ?

(pretty excitied over androdrive if you couldnt tell already ;) )
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I like your enthusiasm. AndroDrive is best explained as the same positive effects with Dermacrine except more pronounced. Increased well-being, energy, confidence, etc.
 
JudoJosh said:
I know the racetams have become questionable in regards to their legal status.. what about Choline, Hup A, rosemary, MAO-A and/or B inhibitors (rhodiola rosea, resveratrol, curcumin, etc), passion flower, ginseng, bacopa monniera or any other adaptogens (ashwaganda) ?

(pretty excitied over androdrive if you couldnt tell already ;) )
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Resveratrol? Do you have any studies for that? :)
 
I found this:
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However, it's a resveratrol hybrid and I'm not sure what can be taken from it.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Resveratrol? Do you have any studies for that? :)
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Inhibitory effects of cis- and trans-resveratrol on noradrenaline and 5-hydroxytryptamine uptake and on monoamine oxidase activity.

Abstract

This study investigated for the first time the potential effects of cis- and trans-resveratrol (c-RESV and t-RESV) on noradrenaline (NA) and 5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT) uptake by synaptosomes from rat brain, on 5-HT uptake by human platelets, and on monoamine oxidase (MAO) isoform activity. Both c-RESV and t-RESV (5-200 microM) concentration-dependently inhibited the uptake of [3H]NA and [3H]5-HT by synaptosomes from rat brain and the uptake of [3H]5-HT by human platelets. In both experimental models, t-RESV was slightly more efficient than c-RESV. Furthermore, in synaptosomes from rat brain, the RESV isomers were less selective against [3H]5-HT uptake than the reference drug fluoxetine (0.1-30 microM). On the other hand, both c-RESV and t-RESV (5-200 microM) concentration-dependently inhibited the enzymatic activity of commercial (human recombinant) MAO isoform (MAO-A and MAO-B) activity, c-RESV being slightly less effective than t-RESV. In addition, both RESV isomers were slight but significantly more selective against MAO-A than against MAO-B. Since the principal groups of drugs used in the treatment of depressive disorders are NA/5-HT uptake or MAO inhibitors, under the assumption that the RESV isomers exhibit a similar behaviour in humans in vivo, our results suggest that these natural polyphenols may be of value as structural templates for the design and development of new antidepressant drugs with two important biochemical activities combined in the same chemical structure: NA/5-HT uptake and MAO inhibitory activity.

PMID 16631124
 
HereToStudy said:
Do you have full text access to alot? I might need to use that occasionally :)
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My school ID is still active and have access to the research databases, but not sure how much longer it'll be active since I graduated last December. It should be good until at least the end of the semester, though.
 
Rodja said:
My school ID is still active and have access to the research databases, but not sure how much longer it'll be active since I graduated last December. It should be good until at least the end of the semester, though.
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Sweet, if I get some free time, ill send you a request or two. Even though free time is rare....lol.
 
HereToStudy said:
As someone who has been away from school for some time, eh, its not much better lol.
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I was so burned out my last semester of grad school that I needed some time off. I didn't know how much, but I knew that I couldn't go straight into a doctorate program. A year later, I'm ready and actually excited to get things going.
 
Rodja said:
I was so burned out my last semester of grad school that I needed some time off. I didn't know how much, but I knew that I couldn't go straight into a doctorate program. A year later, I'm ready and actually excited to get things going.
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I have a mix of excitement and fear, excitement to get into it, fear of returning to school after not doing it for so long.
 
Jorsn said:
Rodja... HTS... Sounds like you guys need some AndroButter! haha
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Super interested in this!
I'm actually holding off my supplement order from another site awaiting for the details and release of this stuff lol.
 
Rodja said:
Completely agree. I love cow milk, but commercial milk has become garbage.
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I have heard that recent legislation has now outlawed raw milk.

I stick with almond or coconut milk for my milk sources
 
HereToStudy said:
What was the purpose behind the ban?
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Raw milk is not safe to drink.

Horrible actually. How they attacked a local raw farmer. Rawsome or something like that in California.
 
mattrag said:
Raw milk is not safe to drink.

Horrible actually. How they attacked a local raw farmer. Rawsome or something like that in California.
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I drank raw milk for 3 years (we had a cow and milked her daily) during middle/high school. I never got sick and it was the most delicious milk ever. Too bad I wasn't into lifting at the time as it would have given me some major growth.
 
Rodja said:
I drank raw milk for 3 years (we had a cow and milked her daily) during middle/high school. I never got sick and it was the most delicious milk ever. Too bad I wasn't into lifting at the time as it would have given me some major growth.
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Man... great opportunity lol. No local farmers there selling milk? Or is it illegal there too?
 
Rodja said:
There are some, but it's ~$10/gallon.
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Hot damn!!

The price of health is high... it's probably also the fact that the farmer is at high risk selling it too... Or maybe he is just taking advantage of the supply/demand ratio lol.

Regardless, it's damn pricey.
 
mattrag said:
Hot damn!!

The price of health is high... it's probably also the fact that the farmer is at high risk selling it too... Or maybe he is just taking advantage of the supply/demand ratio lol.

Regardless, it's damn pricey.
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Same with grass fed beef. I really really want to make the switch over, but it is expensive as hell, and I am always on a tight budget.
 
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