AndroHard 50%off! Blow out

Guys I just checked with Eric, we have some left in stock if anyone is interested, sale has ended, but we are offering 10% off for each bottle purchased, buy 1-10%, 2-20%, 3-30% and so on.
 
Hold on a second.

So what's the difference between this andro hard and the new andro hard? Would this still be effective?
 
ryansm said:
Guys I just checked with Eric, we have some left in stock if anyone is interested, sale has ended, but we are offering 10% off for each bottle purchased, buy 1-10%, 2-20%, 3-30% and so on.
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I tried to buy 10, but didn't get 100% off??? WTF?
 
I tried buying 4, got the multi-discount but would not take off the coupon amount - not for international orders, shame because I would of liked to try a few bottles.
 
How many needed to run for a month on a decent dosage alongside Dermacrine?
 
prld2gr8ns said:
I know. I was just wondering why the PP crew decided to switch from 3b to 3a.... figure they might know something we don't and I'm curious. :D
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me too, i thought 3b was better for muscle building. didn't lg use 3a in a formadrol formula?
 
prld2gr8ns said:
Yes, and the cyclodextrin based MMV3.
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which paled in comparison to the original mmv2, imo. comparing original mmv2 [3b] to current mmv3 [3a] i would have to go with 3b all the way.
 
thebigt said:
which paled in comparison to the original mmv2, imo. comparing original mmv2 [3b] to current mmv3 [3a] i would have to go with 3b all the way.
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3a is the stronger steroid.

3b-epiandrosterone
3a-androsterone

They will both convert to the same steroids, so the potency of the intrinsic steroid is not that important, but its still a significant difference. We are using the stronger 3a form in the new AndroHard

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
3a is the stronger steroid.

3b-epiandrosterone
3a-androsterone

They will both convert to the same steroids, so the potency of the intrinsic steroid is not that important, but its still a significant difference. We are using the stronger 3a form in the new AndroHard

-Eric
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thanks for the info. my experience with the lg mmv3 wasn't very good.
 
thebigt said:
thanks for the info. my experience with the lg mmv3 wasn't very good.
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What was it? 3a?

The delivery system is putting the new AH in a totally different category. The androgenic effects where noticeable on day 2 of this stuff. (only had a 4 day supply)

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
What was it? 3a?

The delivery system is putting the new AH in a totally different category. The androgenic effects where noticeable on day 2 of this stuff. (only had a 4 day supply)

-Eric
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yes, it was 3a.

that is very fast for androgenic effects to be noticed.
 
Primordial Perf said:
What was it? 3a?

The delivery system is putting the new AH in a totally different category. The androgenic effects where noticeable on day 2 of this stuff. (only had a 4 day supply)

-Eric
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Eric - What is in the original AH? I responded pretty darn well to it less the backne it gave me. I do want to try the new version some time if it is as good as you say it is. Tempted to pick up some more of the original...
 
oufinny said:
Eric - What is in the original AH? I responded pretty darn well to it less the backne it gave me. I do want to try the new version some time if it is as good as you say it is. Tempted to pick up some more of the original...
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The original AH had Epiandrosterone (3b) as the active steriod.
 
Primordial Perf said:
3a is the stronger steroid.

3b-epiandrosterone
3a-androsterone

They will both convert to the same steroids, so the potency of the intrinsic steroid is not that important, but its still a significant difference. We are using the stronger 3a form in the new AndroHard

-Eric
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What makes 3a stronger? Is it something out of vida?
 
thebigt said:
see, that's what is so confusing. i've had much better results on 3b, but eric says 3a is stronger?
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Milas said:
What makes 3a stronger? Is it something out of vida?
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All good questions... I can't find any literature that states one over the other, but then again I haven't been looking at it all that intensely either. Each way, I think AH will be a stellar product. It's going to be fun learning and discussing the reasons why 3a's inclusion has precedent over 3b, especially with user feedback on both compounds. If androgenic effects are apparent after only two days then something is working right.....
 
MAxximal said:
@800mg i feel little discomfort when i "pee" but after discontinue was OK
so above 800mg is not recommended maybe 1000mg
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Yeah I got the same thing and I took some prostate support supps while on it as well (saw palmetto and pygeum, should have used nettle and pumpkin seed oil). AH is great as LV, I can imagine it is even better in the newer version, I just wish it wasn't so darn expensive.
 
PA say one time this a weak PH (3b) and need dosed 1000mg for see something but i not understand. with MMV2 i feel like Hulk and never feel any "pee" discomfort
inclusive the old formadrol has both isomer (3a, 3b) very powerful IMO and now with AH i not feel nothing @ recommended dose

until i got a new bottle and think to get another to kick it @1000mg daily but with the prostate issues....... :( no bueno
 
According to Vida the 3a is stronger<typically is. As far as running the old AH at 1000mgs, you can do this as some have and had great results, but it will increase the dht sides. This new version is going to be on another level...
 
ryansm said:
According to Vida the 3a is stronger<typically is. As far as running the old AH at 1000mgs, you can do this as some have and had great results, but it will increase the dht sides. This new version is going to be on another level...
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it had better be, the price sure is, lol.
 
I would say it could be easily compared to the old one at 1500mgs, however it is a different animal.
 
That's just it being the alpha isomer the sides should be less, again this new version is more comparable to actual DHT and possibly Masteron/Primo from my understanding.
 
ryansm said:
That's just it being the alpha isomer the sides should be less, again this new version is more comparable to actual DHT and possibly Masteron/Primo from my understanding.
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I not prone to hair lose and if occurs i don`t care but my prostate care.
 
ryansm said:
That's just it being the alpha isomer the sides should be less, again this new version is more comparable to actual DHT and possibly Masteron/Primo from my understanding.
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Comparing this to Primo is a BOLD statement as this is supposed to be the crem de la crem of all cutting AAS. Let's hope this is correct as it will be cheaper than running Primo, stuff costs a FORTUNE!
 
oufinny said:
Comparing this to Primo is a BOLD statement as this is supposed to be the crem de la crem of all cutting AAS. Let's hope this is correct as it will be cheaper than running Primo, stuff costs a FORTUNE!
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Very often faked as well... one can make a pretty penny selling underdosed/bunk primo, considering the price.
 
so with Androhard V2 the DHT sides are more worst on the prostate?


note: saw palmetto extract and astaxanthin, which in laboratory studies slowed down the enzymes 5a-reductase and aromatase. These enzymes transform testosterone into DHT and estradiol.
 
I found this:

USPLabs said:
Secoisolariciresinol, a lignan in nettle root displayed a modest inhibitory effect on DHT binding to SHBG in vitro, theoretically resulting in greater concentrations of free DHT in serum and in local tissues. The lignan 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran, also present in nettle root was able to completely inhibit DHT from binding to SHBG, yet another indication that it can result in increased free (active) DHT available to tissues such as that in the scalp.

Planta Med. 1997 Dec;63(6):529-32.
Lignans from the roots of Urtica dioica and their metabolites bind to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG).
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Sldge said:
Thats exactly what I mean. Nettle blocks the binding of dht at the scalp and prostate. Maybe that is the studies you are thinking of when lowering DHT?

Overall DHT is increased but only where you want it increased, muscle tissue. This also explains why users report strength going up so much when using it.

Bloodwork that Ive had done and seen support all of the research on it. So not only does it work in the lab but it works in exercising males as well.
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MAxximal said:
Divanil can prevent DHT binding to receptors of the prostate?
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that is why stinging nettle root is a better choice then saw palmetto when using anything DHT based. Throw in some pumpkin seed oil and you should be good to go.
 
oufinny said:
that is why stinging nettle root is a better choice then saw palmetto when using anything DHT based. Throw in some pumpkin seed oil and you should be good to go.
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so if this true can go up the dose to 800-1000mg daily?

edit: of AH v1
 
oufinny said:
Comparing this to Primo is a BOLD statement as this is supposed to be the crem de la crem of all cutting AAS. Let's hope this is correct as it will be cheaper than running Primo, stuff costs a FORTUNE!
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its this comparison that actually made me interested in this stuff, here primo can be $100+.....like getting raped, but arnold loved the stuff, soooo
 
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