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Androbulk/furaza-a cycle

bigdavid said:
I agree with you on the price man that is for sure.. at least from what I have seen with my friends using them. Androhard seems to be ok though for the price (only at 40% off though)..but I think mass/bulk are way too much $$
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Furaza is the most expensive thing I buy,,, how would androhard compare with regards to efficacy and value?
 
thank you man and i HAVE NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE 40% OFF see how being kind and reasonable works WARbird?
bigdavid said:
I agree with you on the price man that is for sure.. at least from what I have seen with my friends using them. Androhard seems to be ok though for the price (only at 40% off though)..but I think mass/bulk are way too much $$
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I always have to wonder how my being on high dose test at all times plays a part in which supps to choose
 
thats all i said was i thought that they didnt work that well for the price and i gave them props for going to the legal route and said once they have it down it will be great. Then WARbird freaked out on me for no reason, but I am easy to spot out of the bunch the rowdy 22 year old :35:
Husker89 said:
thank you man and i HAVE NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE 40% OFF see how being kind and reasonable works WARbird?
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Husker89 said:
andro series is ridiculously too expensive for the 1/3 of gains at best u get from a normal steroid and its 4-5 times the price, GREAT IDEA lol
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Husker89 said:
I am sick of these ridiculous prices for safety when there are already non hepatoxic steroids that give way better gains and are safe and are CHEAP. $400 for a cycle that the logs on it arent even that good at all. I think the max that bogus andro crap should cost is 80-100 dollars for a whole 6-8 week cycle, i mean seriously 400 dollars.
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actually you said this ^^^ and this ^^^ ms. big fat liar.
 
grngoloco said:
I am looking forward to using my furaza though,, sitting on three bottles,, but those will have to wait until I get the A-OK from the doc,,, going in for a liver check tomorrow to make sure all is well
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please tell me your logging your 10 weeks at 400, thats a pretty impressive dose. i like your style!
 
Husker89 said:
you forgot to quote the part where I asked you what you did for a living, if you are going to call me stupid please grace us with your fine career???????????
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I am not so insecure as you trying to act like I am cool on the internet with my "10K check".....suffice to say I just bought a vette for CASH (yes 100 dollar bills)....it was 20K plus BTW....and yes I gave them 100's ;) don't worry about my money little one
 
still waiting for your answer on the career thing, I am not lying i did say that and the other too, isaid both, i never said i didnt say that i just didnt include it. The "war"bird seems to have been outwitted, and if YOU ARE GOINGTO CALL ME STUPID TELL ME YOUR CAREER OR STFU
WARBIRDWS6 said:
actually you said this ^^^ and this ^^^ ms. big fat liar.
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most rich people pay with cashier checks but okay, so what do you do. Are you the hvac guy? I knew you were, are you cleaning a vent right know?
WARBIRDWS6 said:
I am not so insecure as you trying to act like I am cool on the internet with my "10K check".....suffice to say I just bought a vette for CASH (yes 100 dollar bills)....it was 20K plus BTW....and yes I gave them 100's ;) don't worry about my money little one
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csa2179 said:
please tell me your logging your 10 weeks at 400, thats a pretty impressive dose. i like your style!
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Taking a quick break,,, my blood levels showed a serious spike in liver enzymes,, went to the doctor to get labs redone today,,, depending on the results I'll continue it .... may or may not do the hdrol with it,,, may just do test cyp/furaza together
 
grngoloco said:
Taking a quick break,,, my blood levels showed a serious spike in liver enzymes,, went to the doctor to get labs redone today,,, depending on the results I'll continue it .... may or may not do the hdrol with it,,, may just do test cyp/furaza together
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The furaza isn't significantly hepatixic that I know of
 
grngoloco said:
Taking a quick break,,, my blood levels showed a serious spike in liver enzymes,, went to the doctor to get labs redone today,,, depending on the results I'll continue it .... may or may not do the hdrol with it,,, may just do test cyp/furaza together
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send me your paypal so I can send the money for the helladrol.
 
then in typical warbird fashion when i try to end t he argument he started he negs me, come on man you are acting like a child.
Husker89 said:
Warbird ran out of things to say like usual he cant just respectfully disagree he has to name call so then i have to counter. Argument over
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grngoloco said:
The furaza isn't significantly hepatixic that I know of
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im planning a cycle stack where i run pstanz to 500, only for 3 weeks at the end of an 8 week on, but i think furaz at 400 is suppose to be a stronger dose.

im going to be stacking Dzine and Mlmg. im apparently responding to hella relatively fast. this is day 8, lot of muscle tightness an lethargy, i started 8 days ago and weight 188 today i weight 199.6. and im eating really clean. probably some water and such, dont look bigger but i feel bigger.
 
This is getting brutally retarded....

Husky, I agree completely that the AndroMass & AndroBulk are VERY over priced...but for right now, not too much we can do about that, unless we stop distributing to wholesalers....

I have posed some pretty cool ideas to Eric about releasing SINGULAR hormone products which could make stacking all custom to the customer, so they either use ONE hormone at a time....or make custom stacks to suit there needs. This would be cheaper than some of the current products....

As for furuza and pstanz --- they will be about the same price as Andro products (with discounts of course) once you actually dose the stuff at an effective dose --- 350-450 mgs/day.

I like people stacking Pstanz or furuz w/ AndroHard for pre contest OTC cycles .....

-Matt
 
nice thats sick
csa2179 said:
im planning a cycle stack where i run pstanz to 500, only for 3 weeks at the end of an 8 week on, but i think furaz at 400 is suppose to be a stronger dose.

im going to be stacking Dzine and Mlmg. im apparently responding to hella relatively fast. this is day 8, lot of muscle tightness an lethargy, i started 8 days ago and weight 188 today i weight 199.6. and im eating really clean. probably some water and such, dont look bigger but i feel bigger.
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and i apologize i went ove rthe top. You guys have great ideas and when you get the price down you wil dominate the market, ive just heard some bad reviews so i overreacted. I will try your products before i bad mouth them
MattPorter said:
This is getting brutally retarded....

Husky, I agree completely that the AndroMass & AndroBulk are VERY over priced...but for right now, not too much we can do about that, unless we stop distributing to wholesalers....

I have posed some pretty cool ideas to Eric about releasing SINGULAR hormone products which could make stacking all custom to the customer, so they either use ONE hormone at a time....or make custom stacks to suit there needs. This would be cheaper than some of the current products....

As for furuza and pstanz --- they will be about the same price as Andro products (with discounts of course) once you actually dose the stuff at an effective dose --- 350-450 mgs/day.

I like people stacking Pstanz or furuz w/ AndroHard for pre contest OTC cycles .....

-Matt
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I suggested the one compound per product a while ago....best way to do it. then you make your own stack. everything separate. that will probably never happen since it actually makes sense :D
 
Husker89 said:
and i apologize i went ove rthe top. You guys have great ideas and when you get the price down you wil dominate the market, ive just heard some bad reviews so i overreacted. I will try your products before i bad mouth them
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another day....another blow up from you....and another "i'm sorry I apologize"....we're used to it, it plays out like a bad movie we keep seeing again and again......
 
MattPorter said:
This is getting brutally retarded....

Husky, I agree completely that the AndroMass & AndroBulk are VERY over priced...but for right now, not too much we can do about that, unless we stop distributing to wholesalers....

I have posed some pretty cool ideas to Eric about releasing SINGULAR hormone products which could make stacking all custom to the customer, so they either use ONE hormone at a time....or make custom stacks to suit there needs. This would be cheaper than some of the current products....

As for furuza and pstanz --- they will be about the same price as Andro products (with discounts of course) once you actually dose the stuff at an effective dose --- 350-450 mgs/day.

I like people stacking Pstanz or furuz w/ AndroHard for pre contest OTC cycles .....

-Matt
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i would like to hear more about this stack. any logs or links you can give me. i would run the **** out of it
 
leave me alone man. Everyone here knows that the way you are acting is stupid, i obvioulsy got to u because you are so desperate to try to mess with me. I didnt blow up, i said i didnt like the bogus prices whihc matt agreed with ahrdly a blow up. Dont u have a girl or something to do besides plot about how you are going to get me next. YOU ARE 40 YEARS OLD MAN GET A LIFE
WARBIRDWS6 said:
another day....another blow up from you....and another "i'm sorry I apologize"....we're used to it, it plays out like a bad movie we keep seeing again and again......
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csa2179 said:
i would like to hear more about this stack. any logs or links you can give me. i would run the **** out of it
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I can post pictures of 2 OVER 40 clients I prepped using Pstanz/Furuz + AndroHard as the BASE of their cycle ---

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-Matt
 
see how you are so relentless and just will not stop bothering me even after i have asked you to several times, like come on man it is over, now please leave me alone.
Husker89 said:
no i just think something i said got to you personally and now you are determined to try to cause me the same anger i caused you. I am just asking you to stop.
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hey could you pm me a mock cycle using furuz androhard as a base. please
 
MattPorter said:
I can post pictures of 2 OVER 40 clients I prepped using Pstanz/Furuz + AndroHard as the BASE of their cycle ---

<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=54412"/><img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=54411"/>

-Matt
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do they aromatize? if not is a SERM required durin pct
 
grngoloco said:
Not for them or against them,,, I don't know enough about them,,, but when laying all non hepatoxic AAS's in the table regardless of how they are administered... still believe injectables to be the best and safest route,,,, the problem arises with availability and risk,,, tren is easily accessible and the risk is very limited if only purchasing for personal use,,, also I have no negative sides from it, myself,,, I'm willing to try the andro series and have nothing bad to say about it except that it seems wayyyy over priced .... I'd be interested to see what the manufacturing cost to srp price ratio is and how that compares to other supp companies
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Eh I agree with injectable AAS being safer than orals (except the AndroSeries) however tren is a different story for me and many others. As far as price we have stated many times the price of manufacturing these is extremely high, we had these synthesized and it took a lot of resources to bring them to the table. Cheap methylated orals are easy and cheap to source from China. Innovation costs money and this is where the legal OTC hormone route is headed thanks to the bans and the FDA/DEA.
 
MattPorter said:
As for furuza and pstanz --- they will be about the same price as Andro products (with discounts of course) once you actually dose the stuff at an effective dose --- 350-450 mgs/day.

-Matt
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As for the OP cycle would I be better off to dose the amount of furaza that I have at a higher dose for a shorter time??
Say like 300-350/day stacked with the bulk instead of 200 for 6 wks as originally posted??
 
you'd be best off getting enough to dose it high for the whole thing... I'm not sure if a short high-dose cycle will really work well honestly.
 
ryansm said:
Eh I agree with injectable AAS being safer than orals (except the AndroSeries) however tren is a different story for me and many others. As far as price we have stated many times the price of manufacturing these is extremely high, we had these synthesized and it took a lot of resources to bring them to the table. Cheap methylated orals are easy and cheap to source from China. Innovation costs money and this is where the legal OTC hormone route is headed thanks to the bans and the FDA/DEA.
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That makes sense,, like I said prior,, I've never researched the andro series
 
kingEE said:
As for the OP cycle would I be better off to dose the amount of furaza that I have at a higher dose for a shorter time??
Say like 300-350/day stacked with the bulk instead of 200 for 6 wks as originally posted??
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Proper dose at longer intervals is always better in terms of gains, sides not so much. Blood work from my furuza run showed no ill effects on the liver but dramatic impact on lipids.
 
kingEE said:
As for the OP cycle would I be better off to dose the amount of furaza that I have at a higher dose for a shorter time??
Say like 300-350/day stacked with the bulk instead of 200 for 6 wks as originally posted??
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Its worth it to save up and get enough for running it at the high dose for the longer period of time. 6 weeks at 300-400 and you should like what you see.

-Matt
 
MattPorter said:
Its worth it to save up and get enough for running it at the high dose for the longer period of time. 6 weeks at 300-400 and you should like what you see.

-Matt
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I'm holding onto three bottles,, approximately enough for 10 weeks of 400... in terms of expense, that's about $250 worth,,, waiting on labs to determine the state of my liver first
 
Out of curiosity,,, seeing as how I'm already on trt, will I see anything from any of the andro series? What I'm thinking is give the stuff a fair shot while on my cruise dose of 125mg a week,,,, 2nd question: will they raise my test levels?? Reason I ask I get my official, Endocrinologist required, labs done while cruising to maintain my script. Last thing I want is over elevated test, she'll lower me or drop me altogether!!
 
you should use the androhard and/or androlean as a complement to the test.....that is what I would do. those are the two that would be of use in your particular situation. no further elevated test and they should work well with that test dosage.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
you should use the androhard and/or androlean as a complement to the test.....that is what I would do. those are the two that would be of use in your particular situation. no further elevated test and they should work well with that test dosage.
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Save me the research time,,, what's the difference between the two?
 
grngoloco said:
Save me the research time,,, what's the difference between the two?
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you'll be happy to know they are the two cheapest of the line lol :D......but the androhard is like adding in DHT, and the androlean is a cortisol blocker/thermogenic type supp. but they both work well for fat loss and muscle maintenance on a caloric deficit. the lean isn't even out yet (the new version 3) ....keeps getting bumped back, but this is what has been advertised. the AH definitely converts to DHT, they have labs to prove it and I can assure you it does personally.
 
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