Buffgammaman
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How do each of these compare to one another in terms of muscle gains, how fast it takes to get the gains (IE how long it takes to kick in and really work), fat loss and the qulity of the gains and how much you'll keep after pct?
Anavar vs H-drol
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Buffgammaman
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Yes I too would like to know this. If anavar is the "real deal" as he says and then by how much more is it effective then h drol because I heard there somewhat similar to one another but anavar has a price tag 3 to 4 times as high.
Buffgammaman
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I didn't think hdrol had hardly any androgenic propertys do to it being a 4 cloral
TripDog
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Feedback is that it's around 30/100 from what I have heard.
Buffgammaman
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that's 30 androgen and 100 anaboplic right? how does anaver rank on this scale?
ibanezman08
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gains on anavar are very low and it takes very long for the gains to even kick in.
you also have to run it longer than most orals.
i'd go with h-drol.
anavar will give you better quality mass and you will feel better on it overall.
it's a better oral overall and one of the best. but you have to realize what it does. not much.
it's just the price. it's very expensive and not worth it unless you don't mind dishing out the extra cash.
if you don't mind, go with anavar but i would run it for AT LEAST 8 weeks!
you also have to run it longer than most orals.
i'd go with h-drol.
anavar will give you better quality mass and you will feel better on it overall.
it's a better oral overall and one of the best. but you have to realize what it does. not much.
it's just the price. it's very expensive and not worth it unless you don't mind dishing out the extra cash.
if you don't mind, go with anavar but i would run it for AT LEAST 8 weeks!
TripDog
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No thats 30 out of 100 androgenic rating. So its a 3 out of 10. Ballpark.
TripDog
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Yea someone from A.I was saying its higher than superdrol. I think it may be tainted or something?
thesinner
Recovering AXoholic
I was actualy responding to the OP.
Anything with a 1,4-diene is going to have a low androgenic rating because it doesn't produce 5-alpha-reduced metabolites at any appreciable rate. I don't think the 4-chloro group is going to make for that much more of a difference. Dianabol has a low androgenic rating as well, but Boldenone and D-bol are both aromatizable, which aids to what might seem as an androgenic effect.
Buffgammaman
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so 3 out of 10 for androgen that's not to bad but what's it's rating from an anabolic stand poind and where does anavar fit into this rating system?
TripDog
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I think halodrol is a 45/100 in terms of anabolic activity. Feel free to search some steroid websites to see info on anavar.
Buffgammaman
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that's not that great of a ratio
thesinner
Recovering AXoholic
That sounds about right.
4-chloronation takes out a lot of anabolic activity from the inhibition aromatic metabolites (yes, estrogen is anabolic), so T-bol is less anabolic than D-bol.
And now we're comparing to anavar, which (believe it or not) has a very high anabolic rating. It's sort of developed this reputation as a cutting steroid at low doses, but there's actually no fat-burning capabilities of the compound what-so-ever; it's strictly an insane amount of nutrient repartitioning from its high anabolic activity. That's part of the reason why it kills your appetite (nutrients going to the right spots = need less food = less hungry) and why you might experience the "leth-var-gy" (not enough glycogen in the brain).
Buffgammaman
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this 45/30 seems wrong for tbol because dbol is 90-150/55-60
and tbol is supose to have better ratio of anabolic to androgenic then d-bol.
if tbol androgenic rating really is 30 it should have at a bare minimum a rating of 60 for anabolic.
and tbol is supose to have better ratio of anabolic to androgenic then d-bol.
if tbol androgenic rating really is 30 it should have at a bare minimum a rating of 60 for anabolic.
TripDog
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It's not t-bol. It's similar.