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StakedCop said:
I know know... If I ate less steak and opted for those 6 pound bags of chicken at sams for only 10 bucks and did that for 2 weeks I would have my Vegas money.

Fat mouth freaks... I wish I could taser them for you, lol throw some cake in the middle of a busy street...
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I would be completely content with letting you shot some high voltage through their bodies. I would like to record it and play it back on days when I'm feeling down, haha! Actually, too bad we can't just implant some sort of device that shocks them when they are eating like livestock. I know I know, too Orwellian. Bah.

BarbellBeast said:
WOOO 50mg Osta. Interested in how it treats you. If any difference or sides. Let us know! Also man going to the olympia sounds fun.. Maybe I can make it out there. I think I could round up about a G or so for the trip. Not 2 G's though.
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The only reason the last vacation for a couple large, was because it was a full 9 days, with all the prejudging and finals tickets, flights, hotel, and a LOT of food. My goodness, $900 of it was good alone! About $100 a day, with all the amazing choices and buffets. I let loose, and put on about 15 pounds. Oh well, September is the door to Winter, so after the vacation I was just 'bulking up,' haha! ;)
 
Every once in a while... something amazing happens - while not life changing, it does offer some excitement in an otherwise long drawn out wintry blotch of grayness.

Today, I found not only a source of Creatine Nitrate IN BULK POWDER... but, that source is one of my favorite and most trusted suppliers whom I've known about for quite a while and actually spoken with the owner.

No... more... fillers and frills! Proprietary Proprieschmary!

This Spring, I'll be including Creatine Nitrate along with my other supplement escapades right here in the Outstanding Anabolic Archives!
 
Outstanding said:
The only reason the last vacation for a couple large, was because it was a full 9 days, with all the prejudging and finals tickets, flights, hotel, and a LOT of food. My goodness, $900 of it was good alone! About $100 a day, with all the amazing choices and buffets. I let loose, and put on about 15 pounds. Oh well, September is the door to Winter, so after the vacation I was just 'bulking up,' haha! ;)
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Nice, my lady friend wants to go to Vegas anyways. What better time than during the Olympia?? Score. I'll see if I can talk her into it!

Outstanding said:
Every once in a while... something amazing happens - while not life changing, it does offer some excitement in an otherwise long drawn out wintry blotch of grayness.

Today, I found not only a source of Creatine Nitrate IN BULK POWDER... but, that source is one of my favorite and most trusted suppliers whom I've known about for quite a while and actually spoken with the owner.

No... more... fillers and frills! Proprietary Proprieschmary!

This Spring, I'll be including Creatine Nitrate along with my other supplement escapades right here in the Outstanding Anabolic Archives!
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Interesting. Never tried Creatine Nitrate.. Does it really live up to the hype?? :think:
 
BarbellBeast said:
Nice, my lady friend wants to go to Vegas anyways. What better time than during the Olympia?? Score. I'll see if I can talk her into it!
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Use mind trickery on her... it's worth it man, just whip out your credit card.

BarbellBeast said:
Interesting. Never tried Creatine Nitrate.. Does it really live up to the hype?? :think:
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I have no idea. But... I made a self commitment a while ago that if anything ever came out that allowed me to try it in bulk, I would give it a fair shot because I'm interested and a few people who I trust have given it rave reviews. As far as a time line, I will definitely be 'on' Creatine Nitrate by April 1st, and reporting back here! :)
 
I went thru two bottles of APS creatine nitrate and noticed increased workout pumps and MAYBE a slight increase in vascularity. No real mass or strength gains... I don't think i would be willing to invest 35 bucks a month on it though, but would be interested in bulk. :)

I heard you're thinking about giving up the 400 grams of protein diets and go to eating every four hours? Being I always followed a diet of 400plus grams of protein a day and I alway eat every 2 hours and swore by it makes me interested in your decision on this. I've been reading more and more guys going this route but you're the first guy I know and trust talking about it...

(thanks for the response to my pm and get back to you in a bit)
 
It seems the eating every 2 hours mantra is coming into question because of Alan Aragon's work. Nutrient timing seems to be less important as long as macros are achieved each day. It's a good read if you can pick up his book. I highly recommend it
 
Outstanding said:
I have no idea. But... I made a self commitment a while ago that if anything ever came out that allowed me to try it in bulk, I would give it a fair shot because I'm interested and a few people who I trust have given it rave reviews. As far as a time line, I will definitely be 'on' Creatine Nitrate by April 1st, and reporting back here! :)
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My self promise (above) has come to fruition! Just ordered Creatine Nitrate in bulk! Should be here soon - then let the games begin! :)
 
Wheyfocused said:
It seems the eating every 2 hours mantra is coming into question because of Alan Aragon's work. Nutrient timing seems to be less important as long as macros are achieved each day. It's a good read if you can pick up his book. I highly recommend it
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Was he the original pioneer? My thoughts were spawned from the work done over the years by Layne Norton both pre and post doctorate degree. He has studied protein metabolism in humans, and has come out with some very intriguing finds over the past few months with lab work to back up his claims.

This past month, his column in Muscular Development Magazine was devoted wholly to breaking the dogma concerning the eat every two-three hours we have adopted writ large.

Basically, he demonstrated that protein synthesis was NOT encouraged above and beyond an already established baseline when an athlete consumed high protein meals in close proximity... but rather realized a maximal anabolic return when eating every 4-6 hours (larger meals). Also, something else that was interesting was that supplementing with free form amino acids BETWEEN these extended periods of feedings, was a proven method to enhance the protein synthesis and nitrogen retention.

Now... as far as these findings being directly correlated to hypertrophy or anti-catabolic action, we don't know yet. Also, I think it's important to feed quality calories continuously throughout the day to stoke the metabolism. So, from here on out, I am NOT going to eat meals back-to-back any sooner than 3 hours, and shooting for 4 hours ideally.
 
Outstanding said:
Was he the original pioneer? My thoughts were spawned from the work done over the years by Layne Norton both pre and post doctorate degree. He has studied protein metabolism in humans, and has come out with some very intriguing finds over the past few months with lab work to back up his claims.

This past month, his column in Muscular Development Magazine was devoted wholly to breaking the dogma concerning the eat every two-three hours we have adopted writ large.

Basically, he demonstrated that protein synthesis was NOT encouraged above and beyond an already established baseline when an athlete consumed high protein meals in close proximity... but rather realized a maximal anabolic return when eating every 4-6 hours (larger meals). Also, something else that was interesting was that supplementing with free form amino acids BETWEEN these extended periods of feedings, was a proven method to enhance the protein synthesis and nitrogen retention.

Now... as far as these findings being directly correlated to hypertrophy or anti-catabolic action, we don't know yet. Also, I think it's important to feed quality calories continuously throughout the day to stoke the metabolism. So, from here on out, I am NOT going to eat meals back-to-back any sooner than 3 hours, and shooting for 4 hours ideally.
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I believe Alan helped solidify that speculation. Layne also hypothesized that fasted cardio was detrimental and new studies have just come out pretty much supporting that.


At this point Laynes stance seems to be 5g bcaa 2 hours postprandial to recharge anabolism (prevents a refractory effect for the utilization of protein).
 
StakedCop said:
I went thru two bottles of APS creatine nitrate and noticed increased workout pumps and MAYBE a slight increase in vascularity. No real mass or strength gains... I don't think i would be willing to invest 35 bucks a month on it though, but would be interested in bulk. :)

I heard you're thinking about giving up the 400 grams of protein diets and go to eating every four hours? Being I always followed a diet of 400plus grams of protein a day and I alway eat every 2 hours and swore by it makes me interested in your decision on this. I've been reading more and more guys going this route but you're the first guy I know and trust talking about it...

(thanks for the response to my pm and get back to you in a bit)
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- Well, I'm not expecting any measurable hypertrophy from my introduction of Creatine Nitrate. What I am expecting, based on a mixture of reviews and research, is that it will A) Enhance my pump and blood volume while training, which to me is a worthy accomplishment since deep-down we all train to look in the mirror, and B) Nitrates offer some very intriguing benefits regarding nutrient uptake, so I am postulating it will serve as a great adjunct for enhancing caloric efficiency and perhaps even amplify supplement absorption.

- As far as your other thought... for me, it makes a LOT of sense to invest some considerable credence into Layne Norton's years of lab work. He is after all, an institution as far as I'm concerned, because he is that one-of-a-kind mixture of real world education along with degree-backed applied science wherewithal who is a professional competitive bodybuilder. I don't agree with everything he says, but his theories resonate with me in that I don't believe it's necessary at all to force feed ourselves with every couple passing of the long hand. As long as each meal is very nutrient dense, and nutrient timing is still upheld (meaning breakfast immediately upon rising, and of course creating that anabolic safety net around training time) I believe eating every four hours will yield JUST as good (if not BETTER) results as someone who gorges on meat and potatoes all the live long day.

Besides... for those well versed in the Broscience Academy of Lower Learning, I hear far too often "Eat your 400+ grams of protein every day!" I don't see how any human, unless HIGHLY chemically assisted and training 2x/day, is in need of that much protein on a daily basis. 400g/day is my absolute max, I believe firmly that anything more than that is an absolute exercise in futility.

BarbellBeast said:
Interested in how the nitrate works for you. I have soo much creatine mono to use up yet!
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I still have a considerable amount of monohydrate as well, but I'm going to use the two in concert... in unison... concomitantly... YOU GET THE IDEA! ;)
 
Great posts outstanding! I agree with you on layne's diet theory as I believe he knows what he's doing and he's has much more experience and education then me. So far today I've eaten every 3 hours instead of 2. I am starving!!!! So it will take a while to adjust to 4 hours. I'm also using 5 grams BCAAs between meals.
 
Great thoughts, I'm going to get some more BCAA/EAA and try this out when I'm bulking/gaining. Right now I'm using lots of BCAA/EAA during contest prep cutting.
 
Outstanding said:
Also, something else that was interesting was that supplementing with free form amino acids BETWEEN these extended periods of feedings, was a proven method to enhance the protein synthesis and nitrogen retention.
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Just to clarify this for everyone. Layne is stating that 5g of BCAA 2 hours after a meal should be taken with a spike modality rather than a stroke.

IE. Slam back 5g of BCAA, dont sip on it over an extended period 2 hours after a meal
 
StakedCop said:
Great posts outstanding! I agree with you on layne's diet theory as I believe he knows what he's doing and he's has much more experience and education then me. So far today I've eaten every 3 hours instead of 2. I am starving!!!! So it will take a while to adjust to 4 hours. I'm also using 5 grams BCAAs between meals.
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I am so hungry right now too... I'm kind of always hungry - ok, I'm basically starving all the time. Anyway, I get to have another 8oz of chicken at 8:30 - no carbs, so nothing to get excited about, but at least it's something. Then, before bed just after midnight, I'll have an omelet with baby spinach leaves and peppers. Ah man, that reminds me... I have a few cases of egg whites at home that expire tomorrow, LAME, how am I going to eat all of them?

Milas said:
Great thoughts, I'm going to get some more BCAA/EAA and try this out when I'm bulking/gaining. Right now I'm using lots of BCAA/EAA during contest prep cutting.
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What show are you preparing for?

Wheyfocused said:
Just to clarify this for everyone. Layne is stating that 5g of BCAA 2 hours after a meal should be taken with a spike modality rather than a stroke.

IE. Slam back 5g of BCAA, dont sip on it over an extened period 2 hours after a meal
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Good point. This is how I always take Power Shock... I shotgun it, not to be confused with Shotgun, the other VPX product.
 
Outstanding said:
Good point. This is how I always take Power Shock... I shotgun it, not to be confused with Shotgun, the other VPX product.
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I would be wary of using PowerShock to meet this protocol as it doesnt really carry BCAAs in a 2:1:1 ratio of leucine/isoleucine/valine.

It appears to have considerably less isoleucine based on its placement in the label.

This makes the larger portion of leucine less than useful as you need isoleucine and valine in proper proportions to take full advantage of the leucine (which is what you really want working)

The isoleucine and valine work as limiting factors in the metabolism of leucine.
 
I'm going to try a local NPC show in Woodbridge, VA. It's my first competition, so we'll see how it goes.
 
Wheyfocused said:
I would be wary of using PowerShock to meet this protocol as it doesnt really carry BCAAs in a 2:1:1 ratio of leucine/isoleucine/valine.

It appears to have considerably less isoleucine based on its placement in the label.

This makes the larger portion of leucine less than useful as you need isoleucine and valine in proper proportions to take full advantage of the leucine (which is what you really want working)

The isoleucine and valine work as limiting factors in the metabolism of leucine.
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Thanks, good points.

Milas said:
I'm going to try a local NPC show in Woodbridge, VA. It's my first competition, so we'll see how it goes.
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The first show is always amazing... nothing like the first time haha! How many weeks out are you?
 
~5 weeks out. April 23rd is the date. I've been cutting for ~7 weeks now, and am about in the right spot though I would rather be further ahead. I'm going to posing lessons this weekend. I'm pretty excited to see how it all goes down, and just what condition I'll be in for the contest.

I'm now trying to get my gear in order (self tanner, posing suit, hair removal, etc.). Any suggestions?
 
Milas said:
~5 weeks out. April 23rd is the date. I've been cutting for ~7 weeks now, and am about in the right spot though I would rather be further ahead. I'm going to posing lessons this weekend. I'm pretty excited to see how it all goes down, and just what condition I'll be in for the contest.

I'm now trying to get my gear in order (self tanner, posing suit, hair removal, etc.). Any suggestions?
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I always just get a posing suit from bodybuilding, and Pro Tan as well (Dream Tan is horrible in my opinion). Although, if the service will be there and you can fork over some cash, it's best to get spray tanned. Saves you a LOT of time.

For hair removal, just shave. I've tried a lot of other methods, and it just comes down to standing there for hours on end and shaving your entire body, ha!
 
mich29 said:
been reading through these posts here.man I love this thread.
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JudoJosh said:
yup lots of good info hidden throughout the thread..:fing02:
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Oh you guys! You sure know how to butter a fella up! ;) Thanks a lot for the compliments and joining in.

The Creatine Nitrate is on its way, looking forward to it. I'm going to take it alongside monohydrate, so we'll see.

Also, I've been able to source all the raw powders I want recently, mostly GDAs, but one or two. I've been looking into 4-Hydroxyisoleucine and Bitter Melon extract, but for some reason 4-h seems to be patented (Promilin) and Bitter Melon doesn't come in high enough extract standard to be used properly for glucose disposal. Corosolic Acid in 20% extract is also hard to come across.

I'd mention all the sites I've been to investigating this - but you know... rules.
 
I've been very interested in 4-H since it was in Mstak along with other products that we love so much.

Ate every 3.5 hours today and took 5g BCAAs between each meal. I feel less bloated and I now look forward to my cans of tuna/chicken and 95% lean ground beef lol
 
StakedCop said:
I've been very interested in 4-H since it was in Mstak along with other products that we love so much.

Ate every 3.5 hours today and took 5g BCAAs between each meal. I feel less bloated and I now look forward to my cans of tuna/chicken and 95% lean ground beef lol
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Yea, this eat every 4 hour mantra is really nice. Now I dont have to feel nauseous forcing food. I actually enjoy eating again :p
 
StakedCop said:
How many BCAAs are you taking in between meals?

Sorry outstanding I know it's a thread hijack ;)
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5g BCAA 2 hours after a meal. Layne's work is showing that adding more than 5g has serious diminishing returns, and less is not optimal.

So no real reason to go much above 5g unless you just personally feel it works better for you. Like was said before, make sure it's in the 2:1:1 ratio because it's Leucine you really want working.

(At least until new research comes out to prove otherwise :p )
 
StakedCop said:
I've been very interested in 4-H since it was in Mstak along with other products that we love so much.

Ate every 3.5 hours today and took 5g BCAAs between each meal. I feel less bloated and I now look forward to my cans of tuna/chicken and 95% lean ground beef lol
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Wheyfocused said:
Yea, this eat every 4 hour mantra is really nice. Now I dont have to feel nauseous forcing food. I actually enjoy eating again :p
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I have found this to be true as well. My stomach is not as bloated all the time and the meals are looked forward to. As long as the end of day macros workout to be the total....good stuff!!
 
The best thing, I feel, about Outstanding's log is that not only do you have arguably the best written log out there...he has a large wealth of information to share with everyone.

And on top of that, the readers seem to look critically into supplement intake and have some good input as well.

Best all around read I've had regarding supplements in a very long time.
 
Wheyfocused said:
The best thing, I feel, about Outstanding's log is that not only do you have arguably the best written log out there...he has a large wealth of information to share with everyone.

And on top of that, the readers seem to look critically into supplement intake and have some good input as well.

Best all around read I've had regarding supplements in a very long time.
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Best I've seen but I'm still young lol :p

I've notice an increase in lbm since knowing outstanding. :think:
 
MULTI-QUOTE!!! MULTI-QUOTE!!!

I will excuse the hijack, because you all dropped some pretty fancy compliments in here - like pillows of love. Be right back... maybe. ;)
 
I'm Bi-WINNING! I blinked and I cured my brain.

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Wow - anyone who hasn't seen that YouTube parody of Charlie Sheen should just take a minute or two, and give it a screening. It made my day, although I was a little aggravated the song was in my head for an entire day non-stop.

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Anyway, I feel like I have so much to talk about. Some good. Some not so good.

The Good
- I went through my first workout (and day) using Creatine Nitrate. Verdict? AMAZING! My my my, can it be? HAVE I FOUND A NEW OVER-THE-COUNTER SUPPLEMENT WORTH RAVING ABOUT? As Kung Fu Panda would say, SKA-DOOCH! I love how the pump becomes just fully ridiculously engorged, and STAYS there, even after the workout. I've felt like before on a very select assortment of supplements and steroids, but my oh my, Nitrates for the WIN! (I should mention I also pre-dosed 2 scoops of VPX's Power Shock, and also took in 500mg of Agmatine Sulfate... so if you don't get a rip-roaring pump on that stack, you're probably in a coma). PS: ONLY BUY IN BULK! Anything else is a WASTE in my opinion, especially when it's so cheap as a raw powder. I just made a couple hundred capsules at home. 4g pre and 4g post.

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- Spring is almost here... had a bit of nice weather yesterday, and was actually able to fit in some outdoor cardio after the crazy awesome back workout. Deadlifts, Barbell Rows, Dumbell Pullovers - OH MY! :)

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- I had a feast for a king last night... cornbread and chili! BOOM! I could eat that every night. That, and Baja Fresh. Oh, and Ice Cream Cake, and Ice Cream, and Cake. Brownies, warm. Fresh soft macadamia nut cookies.

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WHAT WAS I SAYING!?

The Bad
- I still can't find a bulk source of 4-Hydroxyisoleucine (I have all other GDA bases covered hard, except for this stubborn fella!) Promilin exists, it's about $35 for 90 capsules by a well known company, but, it's only 100mg active 4H per serving, that's way too much money. I've got Gymnema 75%, Need 2 Slin, Cinnulin capsules, Recompadrol, HCA capsules I made, and pure r-ALA capsules as well. I emailed two companies that sell the 20% (Promilin) and 40% 4-Hydroxyisoleucine extract, have not heard back.

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What have all of you been up to!?

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Oh, something else that is just awesome, bpi can no longer be sold in Canada because of the inclusion of illegal substances. Haha, classic. Theophylline, can't believe more people don't know about this. Or maybe I just know a few people behind the curtain ;)

bpi Board Meeting:
Hey, let's make a pre-workout product with a 1g baby-scooper, and tell people how awesome it is, and lace it with amphetamines! WHAT A GREAT IDEA, THEY WON'T BUILD ANY MUSCLE AND THEY'LL BE COCAINED OUT!!!
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Hopefully Europa, the company that MADE bpi cancels their contract, and we can rid ourselves of this supplement disease parasite.
 
Outstanding said:
Oh, something else that is just awesome, bpi can no longer be sold in Canada because of the inclusion of illegal substances. Haha, classic. Theophylline, can't believe more people don't know about this. Or maybe I just know a few people behind the curtain ;)

bpi Board Meeting:


Hopefully Europa, the company that MADE bpi cancels their contract, and we can rid ourselves of this supplement disease parasite.
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wasn't theophylline in the original versions of jacked and ntkts?
 
I'm glad you liked the creatine nitrate so much, now you can see what us "believers" have raved about, and how different it is from CEE.
 
Milas said:
I'm glad you liked the creatine nitrate so much, now you can see what us "believers" have raved about, and how different it is from CEE.
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You cant compare CEE to any other kind of creatine. CEE is the biggest bust in creatine formulation history :p


HCL and CEE shouldnt even be brought up in conversation with MCC, creapure, orotate, and trinitine
 
mich29 said:
interesting stuff here.lol stuff here as well ;)
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Thanks Mich!

Milas said:
I'm glad you liked the creatine nitrate so much, now you can see what us "believers" have raved about, and how different it is from CEE.
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CEE, say whaaaaaaat? Haha, for me... it's mono and Nitrate from here on out.

Wheyfocused said:
You cant compare CEE to any other kind of creatine. CEE is the biggest bust in creatine formulation history :p

HCL and CEE shouldnt even be brought up in conversation with MCC, creapure, orotate, and trinitine
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Interested in Orotate, but never tried it that I can remember - although I've tried some SAN products over the years. What's Trinitine all about?
 
"Eleventy Billion dollars over budget, 29 years behind budget, we DID IT!"

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The most awesomazing strumtrulecent creations of nutraceutical majesty, exceeding the power of a trillion dying suns going super nova in the vast expanse of an unfathomable universe!!!"
 
Trinitine is Omega Labs formulation, it's a quality form as well, MCC/KCC/NaCC bound together.

Out of all of the kinds I've tried, including CN. I plan on sticking with MCC or trinitine. They simply provided better strength gains for me than any other kind. Love some chelated creatines :D

CN was nice, definitely the best pumps of any creatine, but I didnt notice any strength gains over creapure. I figure I can get pumps from other products. And if I wanted something as effective of a workout boost as CN I could get bulk creapure at a cheaper price. That being said, it does supply one hell of a pump (which can be very motivating)
 
I do have one concern for the future tho. Companies are starting to catch on about how effective Nitrates can be for pump...which means more and more products will contain them because average consumers like "feeling" a product work.

I worry that entire stacks with nitrates (creatine, preworkout, intraworkout)...may start to illicit more and more side effects in users from taking so many nitrates at once. And the average person may not really know why they are getting headaches, nausea, rapid heartbeat, restlessness, rash etc
 
Wheyfocused said:
I do have one concern for the future tho. Companies are starting to catch on about how effective Nitrates can be for pump...which means more and more products will contain them because average consumers require "feeling" a product work.

I worry that entire stacks with nitrates (creatine, preworkout, intraworkout)...may start to illicit more and more side effects in users from taking so many nitrates at once. And the average person may not really know why they are getting headaches, nausea, rapid heartbeat, restlessness, rash etc
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I've thought the same thing. Then some 13 year old is gonna die or get real sick because he took 100 grams of nitrates... Then Bye bye nitrates
 
StakedCop said:
I've thought the same thing. Then some 13 year old is gonna die or get real sick because he took 100 grams of nitrates... Then Bye bye nitrates
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Yea, I think we are calling it here in this thread first. It's difficult to use an ingredient that has heart effects....and that can be bought so easily over the counter (of course the same could be said for caffeine, so who really knows)
 
It seems that our concern over nitrates may be shared by others. It is my understanding that bulk CN is being pulled off the market.

ThermoLife has/will have the patent on CN and are planning on not allowing it to be sold in bulk anymore. Apparently it will still be licensed out for certain specific company's creatine formulas, but no longer as a bulk supplement

This is what I have heard (have not confirmed this tho)
 
Creatrate was pulled from the shelves... unreal. I don't think it's about safety at all, as I mentioned in another thread. Danger is always at the mercy of the end-user, be it Aspirin, Flinstone's Vitamins, or any other imaginable capsule or powder in existence. I think it is obvious that it is corporate profiteering and Premium Ingredients and Thermolife got their skirts in a bunch, because the website that was selling it in bulk was charging so little and once again pointing out the ludicrous price hikes supplement companies charge for their magical shiny-label rubbish.
 
Outstanding said:
Creatrate was pulled from the shelves... unreal. I don't think it's about safety at all, as I mentioned in another thread. Danger is always at the mercy of the end-user, be it Aspirin, Flinstone's Vitamins, or any other imaginable capsule or powder in existence. I think it is obvious that it is corporate profiteering and Premium Ingredients and Thermolife got their skirts in a bunch, because the website that was selling it in bulk was charging so little and once again pointing out the ludicrous price hikes supplement companies charge for their magical shiny-label rubbish.
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It was to good to be true. Hopefully someone challenges this and brings back bulk CN.
 
Wondering how your liking the whole eating every 4-5 hours. Sometimes I can only make it 3 hours before I get so hungry and eat, lol. Noticing any leaning effect or anything?
 
StakedCop said:
It was to good to be true. Hopefully someone challenges this and brings back bulk CN.
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:(

StakedCop said:
Wondering how your liking the whole eating every 4-5 hours. Sometimes I can only make it 3 hours before I get so hungry and eat, lol. Noticing any leaning effect or anything?
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I don't ever go longer than four hours... being on androgens and T3, I need more calories anyway to simply sustain. I feel extremely flat and stringy if I don't keep a surplus of calories in my system. I truly believe I can assimilate more protein than a non-chemically-assisted athlete though. Now, if I was off-cycle I think eating every 4 hours is ideal and should offer some very unique advantages.

Right now, I'm eating every three hours... still, a FAR stretch from the insane 'every 1.5-2 hours' I used to do as a teenager! ;)
 
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