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An OUTSTANDING Log: The Anabolic Chronicles...

mich29 said:
how did you find natty v just wondering, I haven't heard of this stuff till you talked about it?
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I have been closely following the company since Recompadrol because I was so impressed, and still am, with that product. I saw the company and product label/formula evolve and make strides forward, eventually releasing this new product. I have been in contact with the owner and formulator behind it all, and he informed me that Natty-V was in the works, and when it finally came out I made sure to stock up on it without even trying samples first because I just have a very select group of companies I sincerely believe in. Thanks for asking.
 
Well, today marks 12 weeks out... the official 'typical' benchmark for the contest prep period. I have no weight scale, I really don't care whatsoever about bodyweight, although it would be nice to see the rate of loss on a weekly basis to make sure nothing drastic happens or stagnation occurs. Anyway, 2 sessions of cardio a day along with 5-6 days a week of weight training and 2x abs/week for now. My nutrition, as a very simplified overview, is 8oz of lean meat 4 times a day with all meals spaced out 3 hours, along with 2 shakes per day (upon rising and post workout) to equal 6 daily meals (sometimes 7). For the other macros, since I don't ever count calories, I am carb-cycling on a seven day rotation including low, medium, and high, and lastly my fat intake varies but includes fish oil, almonds, and egg yolks which increased on low carbohydrate days.

At the moment, my current cycle includes Testosterone Propionate, EQ, and Trenbolone Acetate for injection, and Oral Turinabol plus Anavar orally. Around eight weeks out, I will add in Primobolan injections paired with Masteron, and will throw in Winstrol as long as my joints and connective tissue are up to the task. As a last tidbit for the time being, I am also on FormaStanz Topical from NTBM/Mr. Supps @ 12 pumps per day (6am/6pm), and T3 @ 100mcg/day which will remain constant throughout the entire duration as far as I can foresee. Oh, I am also entertaining IGF-1-LR3 @ 100mcg/day post workout, and Mod 1-29 + GHRP-2 for the entire duration once it comes in the mail. (Clen + Ketotifen will come into play on 3 weeks cycles leading up to the show starting NEXT Saturday).

A lot of exciting things unfolding... basically, I am just excited, and am looking forward to some things the future has to hold. Thanks so much for being here in my journal, and if anyone has any questions, as long as I'm comfortable answering them, I PROMISE YOU I WILL BE FORTHRIGHT AND COMPLETELY HONEST WITH ALL OF YOU! :)
 
Any chance of pics? No need for face, but general conditioning maybe? Interested in your progress!
 
Milas said:
Any chance of pics? No need for face, but general conditioning maybe? Interested in your progress!
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Hi, I took 12 weeks out pictures last night. I, of course, am light years from pleased, however the muscle density and size improvement is undeniable. Good off season. I feel, right now, very confident the grainy density will come shining through over these next few months. 12 weeks out is a benchmark, but of course like anything else the start is not indicative of the final product, so I would feel very hesitant to upload my pictures from this far out. Perhaps I will throw a side tricep up, thanks a lot for asking :)
 
Well, very interested to see how you progress, and only offer support! No problem about pics, I'm sure you know how to gauge your own progress and adjust. Looks like your plans are awesome!
 
Milas said:
Well, very interested to see how you progress, and only offer support! No problem about pics, I'm sure you know how to gauge your own progress and adjust. Looks like your plans are awesome!
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Thanks so much for your great support, means a lot, and makes me feel really good.

BarbellBeast said:
Never used Torem, but all I thought it was for was PCT.... What exactly are you using it for Outstanding?
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It enhances ejaculation sensation - my orgasm while taking Torem, Viagra, and Natty-V was just beyond words. They don't HAVE WORDS in the dictionary for that as far as I know (and I know my words!)
 
Hi, hello, and how do you all do?

Well, this past month also known as June, has been a bit of an awesome-tastic roller coaster ride for the history books for yours truly. The crescendo of human emotion, the ebb and flow of dreams and what they may come, and of course the lifting and toiling in the gym and on the elliptical or treadmill. I feel as though it is all building, brick by brick, moment by passing fleeting moment, leading me to some sort of asterisk in the timeline of my life. Whether this footnote is a positive or a negative, is up to me - the individual always holds the sovereign reigns of their eventual destiny - much like the aerial view of the earth's surface, we live in plots of time, like chunks of calendar pages. For now, this is my focus... my plot of time before me, at my feet and within my grasp.

I have my hope vested in the bedrock of my own personal industry and willpower, using every available tool and ounce of persevering passion that exists within me, I am intent on eventuating an ultimate outcome of besting my previous bests. As the wise Ra's Al Ghul once said in stinging concise terms of revealing candor... training is nothing, will is everything. By employing an even half/half blend of those two profound entities in harmonious marriage, I feel an electric surge flowing through me that will propel me through this journey, onto the stage, and onto the next one.
 
Quoting Ra's Al Ghul? Have you been training in the Himalaya's? Will your posing routine include disappearing into the shadows only to reappear in front of the judges with a striking rear-lat spread? With great power comes great responsibility... or was that Spiderman... ;)

Glad to hear things are going well big guy! Get some progress pics up already!
 
Milas said:
Quoting Ra's Al Ghul? Have you been training in the Himalaya's? Will your posing routine include disappearing into the shadows only to reappear in front of the judges with a striking rear-lat spread? With great power comes great responsibility... or was that Spiderman... ;)

Glad to hear things are going well big guy! Get some progress pics up already!
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I have progress pictures from 12, and 11 weeks out. They ain't pretty, haha. You can see the great improvement in size and density head to toe, but that little bit of lower stomach fat has me just biting at the bit to get shhhhhhhhhh-redded!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
 
Hell, I'm not pretty either, but at least you're on track! :D
 
Outstanding said:
As the wise Ra's Al Ghul once said in stinging concise terms of revealing candor... training is nothing, will is everything. By employing an even half/half blend of those two profound entities in harmonious marriage, I feel an electric surge flowing through me that will propel me through this journey, onto the stage, and onto the next one.
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Awesome quote. Glad to hear things are going well!
 
StakedCop said:
Nope

Some people just suck at driving.

FYI I hardly ever wrote speeding tickets. :)

Loud muffler

Child safety seats

Improper lane

That's about it
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Are end of month quotas real?

Good calls on those tickets, very much deserved IMO except maybe improper lane, but who am I to know these things!

Yeah, some people do really suck at driving, and for some odd reason don't seem to think it's important enough to pay attention to what's happening around them in traffic.
 
Milas said:
Are end of month quotas real?

Good calls on those tickets, very much deserved IMO except maybe improper lane, but who am I to know these things!

Yeah, some people do really suck at driving, and for some odd reason don't seem to think it's important enough to pay attention to what's happening around them in traffic.
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I can only speak for my department on quotas (I think quota systems are unethical and maybe even illegal) and we have no quotas for tickets. The bosses just wanna see that we are doing work and not driving around wasting gas. For example, if I'm the traffic enforcement car for the night I better have a lot of traffic stops, lol but I do not have to write anyone.

Improper lane usage leads to DUIs ;)

No bumpers are another one I like to write and safety test stickers on certain pickup trucks and. CMVs. :D I could go on all day lol
 
StakedCop said:
I can only speak for my department on quotas (I think quota systems are unethical and maybe even illegal) and we have no quotas for tickets. The bosses just wanna see that we are doing work and not driving around wasting gas. For example, if I'm the traffic enforcement car for the night I better have a lot of traffic stops, lol but I do not have to write anyone.

Improper lane usage leads to DUIs ;)

No bumpers are another one I like to write and safety test stickers on certain pickup trucks and. CMVs. :D I could go on all day lol
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I find it all very interesting, we interact with police every day (at least they're out there serving and protecting our butts), but I personally know very little about the job outside of what's portrayed on TV. Thanks for sharing!

Sorry for any derail Big O!
 
Milas said:
I find it all very interesting, we interact with police every day (at least they're out there serving and protecting our butts), but I personally know very little about the job outside of what's portrayed on TV. Thanks for sharing!

Sorry for any derail Big O!
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Just tell him he is awesome and he will for give us ;)

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Outstanding, have I told you lately how awesome you are?

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Stackedcop hows its going bro? just dropping in to say hi see how things are going, just recently started an Anabeta run, psyched to give it a good run!

Any tips or little pointers you could throw me about dosing or just basically anything at all you remember from your run that wasn't included in the FAQs and directions?? ty sir
 
How dare all of you use my hallowed journal for your own fodder! I can't be trifled with such childish log-hijacking, and I can't believe all of you would lower yourselves to such underhanded uncalled for nonsense!

ONLY JOKING KIDDOS! At least SOMEONE is posting in my Chronicle, since I'm not, bwa-ha-ha! If I were to say "I've been busy," it would sound like a generic excuse that everyone uses, and wouldn't come CLOSE to illustrating or portraying my true lack of free time.

I have been so inundated with work, and life as of late, I'm just a little overwhelmed.

I am having second thoughts about my overall desire to continue this contest prep - I have suffered a bout with wicked headaches, back pain, nausea, days of diarrhea, lack of sleep... and so on and so forth. I just feel as though my resolve is deteriorated, and I'm beginning to think about the true intentions I have for doing this show. If it is to be big, shredded, and have the attention of everyone in the room while I do my booty shake to some catchy hip hop, that's all fine and dandy, but is it worth another two and a half MONTHS of deprivation? These questions aren't rhetorical, I'm not making my closing arguments for stopping my 2012 contest prep, I have NEVER stopped anything once I have started - I am truly curious and contemplative whether or not my toils are being rightfully waged and endeavored.

If it comes down to fighting this constant weakness, lethargy, headaches, and misery watching all these barbeques with foods that bring a grown man to his knees pass by, then I can't justify watching life go by as I idly sit on my hands weighing out my chicken breasts and brown rice. I'm not a professional, I am not under any contract, and I lead the lifestyle of a bodybuilding on OR off-season, so it's not like I'm looking for an 'out' to gorge myself with pizza and cookie-cake every single day.

Right now, after a full month of dieting, 2-a-day cardio, and supplementation... I am lean, hard, and have what I consider my best look so far BY FAR, this far into my diet/prep. In the morning, or especially intra-workout, I am very round and dense. Continuing on would mean hundreds, and hundreds of dollars in tanning, spray tanning, NPC annual membership, contest entry fees, traveling fees, and on and on. I could still stay lean, and "re-diet" with increased intensity before the big yearly vacation to Las Vegas in September - so pool hopping during the Olympia weekend wouldn't be something I'd hesitate about.

Thoughts, feedback, anything else?
 
What does this "hobby" mean to you, and what would it feel like a week/month/year from now knowing you bailed? It's a question only you can really answer for yourself based on your personal values and priorities.

Personally, I've only done 1 contest prep and it sucked, but it was worth it in the end to have that experience and know what I can do. It entailed sacrifice for me and my family, but I did it. You on the other hand have done it before, so you know what to expect. Is it worth it, 2 months out of your life?

Only you can make these choices, no shortcuts and no copouts even when you're carb depleted!
 
Milas said:
What does this "hobby" mean to you, and what would it feel like a week/month/year from now knowing you bailed? It's a question only you can really answer for yourself based on your personal values and priorities.

Personally, I've only done 1 contest prep and it sucked, but it was worth it in the end to have that experience and know what I can do. It entailed sacrifice for me and my family, but I did it. You on the other hand have done it before, so you know what to expect. Is it worth it, 2 months out of your life?

Only you can make these choices, no shortcuts and no copouts even when you're carb depleted!
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Health and Happiness are priority one to me. It's never as simple as it seems. I have done show, after show, after show, after show, for the better part of a decade. When bodybuilding detracts from my two main priorities in life, rather than enriching them, reevaluation needs to be made, which I did. I will never regret the well thought decision made with counsel of family and self contemplation to forgo a season of suffering to hold a $4 trophy into the air for a split second before being ushered off stage.
 
Got a care package in the mail yesterday, looking forward to trying out Power Chews BCAAs, although in all honesty I don't like the sugar profile per serving, and I already have kilo upon kilo of BCAAs in powdered form. I also got in some GHRP-6, which I'll use until my GHRP-2 comes in I suppose, started last night before bed. Some research led me to believe appetite stimulation begins within the second week or possible after two full weeks, and the lipolytic properties kick in noticeably after a full month of usage. I am doing 100mcg 3x/day. Ideally, I would do a full 6-7 injections every single day between meals and before bed, all 100mcg since that seems to be the threshold, but it's very hard to carry needles to work and go through the gauntlet of injections when life has other plans from time to time. Oh well, I'm just making excuses I suppose.

Once my IGF-1-LR3 comes in, I was curious since the localized growth effect is so tirelessly debated, can't I just draw the GHRP-2/6 into the same insulin syringe with the IGF-1-LR3 and inject in the stomach area next to the umbilicus like normal (or does it 'have' to be injected somewhere the 29g needle can penetrate into muscle tissue)?

Would there be ANY benefit to stacking GHRP-2 and GHRP-6 together? I would tend to think not, since GHRP-2 is so effective as a standalone anyway. Something else that I've been counseled on recently, is the non-necessity of stacking growth peptides together. I was planning on doing a Hexarelin + CJC/Mod 1-29 together, but was told that would be wasteful and superfluous; GHRP-2 is the king of the castle since it can be cycled MUCH LONGER and doesn't cause shutdown. Please correct any of my understandings if I am off base, thanks fellas.

Well, this week is another week... not sure what I weigh, but I would guess it has to be between 240 and 248, can't imagine it being any different. I am excited about my first-ever cycle/administration of IGF-1-LR3 once it comes in, placing my order this week. I will be on it for eight consecutive weeks, which goes against VERY EARLY teachings regarding this compound, but as many users continue experimentation they realize the benefits don't in fact wane, but continue along well past the usually advocated outdated dogma of '40 days maximum.'

So, let's see what eight weeks of GHRP-6/2, IGF-1-LR3, Masteron, Sustanon, Propionate, and Tren Acetate with EQ, Anavar, and Tbol can eventuate. (Insert evil laugh, while wringing hands and a conniving dark smile on my face)
 
Outstanding said:
Got a care package in the mail yesterday, looking forward to trying out Power Chews BCAAs, although in all honesty I don't like the sugar profile per serving, and I already have kilo upon kilo of BCAAs in powdered form. I also got in some GHRP-6, which I'll use until my GHRP-2 comes in I suppose, started last night before bed. Some research led me to believe appetite stimulation begins within the second week or possible after two full weeks, and the lipolytic properties kick in noticeably after a full month of usage. I am doing 100mcg 3x/day. Ideally, I would do a full 6-7 injections every single day between meals and before bed, all 100mcg since that seems to be the threshold, but it's very hard to carry needles to work and go through the gauntlet of injections when life has other plans from time to time. Oh well, I'm just making excuses I suppose.

Once my IGF-1-LR3 comes in, I was curious since the localized growth effect is so tirelessly debated, can't I just draw the GHRP-2/6 into the same insulin syringe with the IGF-1-LR3 and inject in the stomach area next to the umbilicus like normal (or does it 'have' to be injected somewhere the 29g needle can penetrate into muscle tissue)?

Would there be ANY benefit to stacking GHRP-2 and GHRP-6 together? I would tend to think not, since GHRP-2 is so effective as a standalone anyway. Something else that I've been counseled on recently, is the non-necessity of stacking growth peptides together. I was planning on doing a Hexarelin + CJC/Mod 1-29 together, but was told that would be wasteful and superfluous; GHRP-2 is the king of the castle since it can be cycled MUCH LONGER and doesn't cause shutdown. Please correct any of my understandings if I am off base, thanks fellas.

Well, this week is another week... not sure what I weigh, but I would guess it has to be between 240 and 248, can't imagine it being any different. I am excited about my first-ever cycle/administration of IGF-1-LR3 once it comes in, placing my order this week. I will be on it for eight consecutive weeks, which goes against VERY EARLY teachings regarding this compound, but as many users continue experimentation they realize the benefits don't in fact wane, but continue along well past the usually advocated outdated dogma of '40 days maximum.'

So, let's see what eight weeks of GHRP-6/2, IGF-1-LR3, Masteron, Sustanon, Propionate, and Tren Acetate with EQ, Anavar, and Tbol can eventuate. (Insert evil laugh, while wringing hands and a conniving dark smile on my face)
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Check the PowerChews again. They're not sugar, they're Xylitol. No insulin response (metabolized in liver), good for oral and gut health, and give a trickle of energy over time to help keep you going. They also help control cravings and hunger. No sugar at all in there!

IGF1-LR3 is systemic IIRC, IGF-1 DES is thought to be more local. I think you'd be okay using the same slin pin. I did the same with CJC and Ipamorelin, no problem, though I knew for sure these were systemic. I'm almost positive LR3 is systemic, and you'd be good to go sub-q. Speaking of which, do you have CJC? It really amplifies the GHRP, making it much more effective (they work together where 1 + 1 = 5).

GHRP-6 I thought caused hunger issues with higher doses where you pass the saturation for GH, and it just causes ghrelin release which makes you hungry. I could be wrong, but I thought keeping doses under 150mcg avoided most of the hunger issues.

Using GHRP-2 and GHRP-6 together wouldn't be of much value, they target the same GH receptors. The benefit of GHRP-2 is it is more selective and doesn't affect ghrelin, but it affects prolactin more. GHRP-6 affects ghrelin and cortisol levels.
 
Milas said:
Check the PowerChews again. They're not sugar, they're Xylitol. No insulin response (metabolized in liver), good for oral and gut health, and give a trickle of energy over time to help keep you going. They also help control cravings and hunger. No sugar at all in there!

IGF1-LR3 is systemic IIRC, IGF-1 DES is thought to be more local. I think you'd be okay using the same slin pin. I did the same with CJC and Ipamorelin, no problem, though I knew for sure these were systemic. I'm almost positive LR3 is systemic, and you'd be good to go sub-q. Speaking of which, do you have CJC? It really amplifies the GHRP, making it much more effective (they work together where 1 + 1 = 5).

GHRP-6 I thought caused hunger issues with higher doses where you pass the saturation for GH, and it just causes ghrelin release which makes you hungry. I could be wrong, but I thought keeping doses under 150mcg avoided most of the hunger issues.

Using GHRP-2 and GHRP-6 together wouldn't be of much value, they target the same GH receptors. The benefit of GHRP-2 is it is more selective and doesn't affect ghrelin, but it affects prolactin more. GHRP-6 affects ghrelin and cortisol levels.
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What an awesome reply, thank you very much. I never grow tired of the useful utility of forums, especially when people like you stop by to offer your expertise. We all have our certain skill sets, and peptides are far from being included in mine. I was told that CJC paired with GHRP-2 and IGF-1-LR3 would be a bit of overkill, because they work so well on their own, but let me just say right now that I believe you know what you're talking about, and how can any weight training man ignore the 1 +1 = 5? Haha, in all seriousness though, can you expand on the CJC synergy a little more, and the proper dosage, timing, and cycle duration (can be be cycled for long periods of time like GHRPs)? I am going to put an order in with my supplier, which ironically I'm making an order from tomorrow. Time to grow WHILE staying lean! I have heard IGF-1-LR3 alone has the power to keep athletes lean while ingesting increased calories, so add in the AAS assortment, GHRP, and CJC and I'm good.

Do you buy into any of that Huperzine talk? Seems like wishful thinking to me, and the GHRPs are going to cause their effects no matter what.

PS: THANKS also for clearing up the confusion I had about Power Chews. I love the concept, website, labels, and premise! I will be taking in my first serving tonight before heading out the door to train legs! :)
 
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What an awesome reply, thank you very much. I never grow tired of the useful utility of forums, especially when people like you stop by to offer your expertise. We all have our certain skill sets, and peptides are far from being included in mine. I was told that CJC paired with GHRP-2 and IGF-1-LR3 would be a bit of overkill, because they work so well on their own, but let me just say right now that I believe you know what you're talking about, and how can any weight training man ignore the 1 +1 = 5? Haha, in all seriousness though, can you expand on the CJC synergy a little more, and the proper dosage, timing, and cycle duration (can be be cycled for long periods of time like GHRPs)? I am going to put an order in with my supplier, which ironically I'm making an order from tomorrow. Time to grow WHILE staying lean! I have heard IGF-1-LR3 alone has the power to keep athletes lean while ingesting increased calories, so add in the AAS assortment, GHRP, and CJC and I'm good.

Do you buy into any of that Huperzine talk? Seems like wishful thinking to me, and the GHRPs are going to cause their effects no matter what.

PS: THANKS also for clearing up the confusion I had about Power Chews. I love the concept, website, labels, and premise! I will be taking in my first serving tonight before heading out the door to train legs! :)
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I'm no expert, I'm just a nerd with a keyboard and internet connection!

The whole CJC/GHRP and IGF-1 is kinda true. The anabolism from CJC/GHRP really comes from GH signaling the release of IGF-1 which in turn blunts the release of GH. So, once you get IGF-1 in the system, GH stops. If you take CJC/GHRP at the same time as IGF-1, you effectively stop the GH pulse. You'd want to separate them. Best protocol I've heard is IGF pre workout and CJC/GHRP Post workout.

For CJC, get the CJC-1295 No DAC (Mod GRF, or CJC-1293 are other names for the same thing). By removing the DAC it immitates natural MALE GH release (with DAC is more like female GH release), and you can take it for 6-8 months without a problem. Dose the CJC and GHRP together, you can use the same pin.

Huperzine theoretically works, and I do take it, but I'm not sure if it does anything. I also take EGCG (green tea extract) which is supposed to further prolong and increase effects. It's cheap, and the stuff is good regardless, so I figure what the hell. I just keep the bottles with the peptides and dose together.

PowerChews are great, they help me avoid eating too many sweets. It's not just delivery of BCAA or what not, to me it's a convenient way to control my sweet tooth. I'll pay a premium for that!
 
Milas said:
I'm no expert, I'm just a nerd with a keyboard and internet connection!

The whole CJC/GHRP and IGF-1 is kinda true. The anabolism from CJC/GHRP really comes from GH signaling the release of IGF-1 which in turn blunts the release of GH. So, once you get IGF-1 in the system, GH stops. If you take CJC/GHRP at the same time as IGF-1, you effectively stop the GH pulse. You'd want to separate them. Best protocol I've heard is IGF pre workout and CJC/GHRP Post workout.

For CJC, get the CJC-1295 No DAC (Mod GRF, or CJC-1293 are other names for the same thing). By removing the DAC it immitates natural MALE GH release (with DAC is more like female GH release), and you can take it for 6-8 months without a problem. Dose the CJC and GHRP together, you can use the same pin.

Huperzine theoretically works, and I do take it, but I'm not sure if it does anything. I also take EGCG (green tea extract) which is supposed to further prolong and increase effects. It's cheap, and the stuff is good regardless, so I figure what the hell. I just keep the bottles with the peptides and dose together.

PowerChews are great, they help me avoid eating too many sweets. It's not just delivery of BCAA or what not, to me it's a convenient way to control my sweet tooth. I'll pay a premium for that!
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Strictly because of your awesome help and guidance in this somewhat new field, I purchased a lot of (10) GHRP-2, IGF-1-LR3, and CJC1295 NO DAC. I was so glad to read your "NO DAC" explanation, just in the nick of time before my order.

I am running some GHRP-6 right now Nate sent me to try, been on it for four days so far, no effects yet, dosing 3-4 times a day depending on if I'm home enough to throw that 4th injection in or not.

So... I have some questions:

-Does GHRP or CJC1295 NO DAC have to be refrigerated? I like to keep them in my bathroom cabinet.
-Does IGF-1-LR3 have to be refrigerated? I thought only insulin was supposed to be kept cold... which I wasn't impressed with using it for a full 2 months.
-I feel as though it would be better to take GHRP-2/CJC1295 NO DAC BEFORE the workout for GH surge, and IGF-1-LR3 post workout, since it works so well with carbs and assists in muscle recuperation and anabolism... PLUS, I always eat carbohydrates post workout, so that wouldn't make any sense. What are your thoughts?
 
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Strictly because of your awesome help and guidance in this somewhat new field, I purchased a lot of (10) GHRP-2, IGF-1-LR3, and CJC1295 NO DAC. I was so glad to read your "NO DAC" explanation, just in the nick of time before my order.

I am running some GHRP-6 right now Nate sent me to try, been on it for four days so far, no effects yet, dosing 3-4 times a day depending on if I'm home enough to throw that 4th injection in or not.

So... I have some questions:

-Does GHRP or CJC1295 NO DAC have to be refrigerated? I like to keep them in my bathroom cabinet.
-Does IGF-1-LR3 have to be refrigerated? I thought only insulin was supposed to be kept cold... which I wasn't impressed with using it for a full 2 months.
-I feel as though it would be better to take GHRP-2/CJC1295 NO DAC BEFORE the workout for GH surge, and IGF-1-LR3 post workout, since it works so well with carbs and assists in muscle recuperation and anabolism... PLUS, I always eat carbohydrates post workout, so that wouldn't make any sense. What are your thoughts?
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Peptides should generally be refrigerated and not shaken. You don't NEED to refrigerate it, but if you're using it quickly I think it would be okay. Not entirely sure though, may be in the minutia.

I agree, I think the CJC/GHRP pre and IGF post workout is better conceptually. IGF gives better pumps, but I think the effect may be better GH first. Reason being that GH gets blunted with fats in the blood, and post workout you'd have more free fatty acids in the blood than pre-workout. It also lets you get a GH pulse pre/during workout which triggers IGF release, but it's only short lived. Then if you follow up with an extra dose of IGF post workout, it's even more IGF goodness both ways. Just theory though, either way should work fine, just avoid food 30 minutes before/after doses, BCAA is the best alternative.
 
Milas said:
Peptides should generally be refrigerated and not shaken. You don't NEED to refrigerate it, but if you're using it quickly I think it would be okay. Not entirely sure though, may be in the minutia.

I agree, I think the CJC/GHRP pre and IGF post workout is better conceptually. IGF gives better pumps, but I think the effect may be better GH first. Reason being that GH gets blunted with fats in the blood, and post workout you'd have more free fatty acids in the blood than pre-workout. It also lets you get a GH pulse pre/during workout which triggers IGF release, but it's only short lived. Then if you follow up with an extra dose of IGF post workout, it's even more IGF goodness both ways. Just theory though, either way should work fine, just avoid food 30 minutes before/after doses, BCAA is the best alternative.
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Thanks a lot - as always. I know to roll the vial like Mr. Miagi, rather than shake it... but I thought only IGF and Insulin were to be kept cold. Since I will go through the GHRP vials fairly fast, I think I'll leave them out, of course once the IGF-1-LR3 comes in, I'll just keep all three vials side by side in the fridge so that will fix that issue. Something that sticks out in my mind as a slight disadvantage is waiting 30 minutes after injections to eat, especially post workout as the anabolic window will be closing - of course I suppose the flip side of that is the anabolic action of IGF-1-LR3 extends that window and also allows the body to utilize the post-workout carbohydrates more efficiently to synthesize muscle tissue (so it's a net gain ultimately).

mich29 said:
checkin in on my favorite log.
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What have you been up to?

I feel like I've been doing so much I sometimes lost track of it all and forget to report in here on Am... just been focusing on my new car, it's a lifelong dream come true you could say, and now I'm obsessing over the project, going to finalize it next Spring/Summer.

I lost 30 pounds in about 4 weeks, and now in stead of 256, I'm 230 on a full stomach after a slight four-day rebound with some calorie re-feeding (aka pizza and ice cream). I'm going to maintain this condition and approximate body weight for the next couple months, or about 9 1/2 weeks, until I'm strolling down the Strip at Las Vegas for the Mr. Olympia 2011 Vacation Extravaganza! :)
 
Going to get a little something-something to assist in my on-the-rise blood pressure which I just had measured recently by a friend in college for nursing. Although Need 2 Guard has handily cut down all side effects, I am now getting headaches a couple times a week, and this is not something that has ever occurred. I suppose the OT (Tbol) is to blame, since I am running a decent high daily dosage.

Should I opt for Celery Seed of Celery Seed Extract?

Also, I am ordering Hawthorn Berry because I see that as an additive in most BP supplements.

Does anyone has any other suggestions or thoughts to combat on-cycle blood pressure? It seems to be the only ailment I have had creep up.

Thanks! :)
 
Greetings gang,

Well with no answers I was forced and prodded to do my own research and leg-work, GASP! I ended up making an order from (better not say, ohhh nooo, I'll get an infraction) earlier today of some Celery Seed 500mg 250 caps, Hawthorne caps, and Krill Oil along with a couple other goodies to keep my bill of health in tip top shape.

Other than that... I have some pretty exciting developments as of late. I am getting some work done to my new dream Stang this week, an amazing sub-woofer along with the top radar detector in the industry integrated into the car so wires are hidden and it turns on and off with the ignition. I also picked up a truck load of construction supplies to remodel the garage this coming month of so, allowing me to build a proper stable for my noble steed. Also, I went ahead and bought another big shipment of detailing supplies from my favorite site, AutoGeek.net, that will be here Friday according to UPS tracking. Oh, and I have some custom factory-painted window louvers coming in for the Stallion as well, will arrive this or next week and then I'll have them installed as soon as possible.

My Mr. Olympia packet of tickets came in the mail, so I'm all set. Hotel, Flight, Rental Car, Tickets... cycle ;)

Read below for some updates, queries, and pondering...

I'm very eager and excited about adding in, for the first time ever, IGF-1-LR3 to my protocol next week when it arrives from my supplier, along with CJC1295 NO DAC (aka: Mod 1-29), to compliment my already in-use GHRP-6 from Nate of NTBM (I won a huge contest in May where I got to devise my own cycle, but I'm only going to end up getting a couple peptides and a bottle of tren, that's alright though, it's more than I had before the contest I suppose).

Something I have been throwing around in my noggin..... is whether or not to use Insulin during these last eight weeks leading up to the Olympia? I am using intermittent Clenbuterol, and continuous T3, so I believe that paired with Masteron and Tren Acetate will be more than enough to mitigate any fat-gain, so perhaps it would add to the overall synergy of the cycle and work especially well with IGF-1-LR3 and GHRP?

The only other remaining possibility for me, is whether or not to add in Winstrol, and Primobolan, to these final eight weeks leading up to the vacation trip for hardening and fat-loss while maintaining all lean mass. I have so much of all the above, and even have oral AND injection Primobolan, so I'm not quite sure what I will decide upon.
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Rjr3412 said:
A radar detector o.O Lol, sounds slick. What have you taken the Mustang up to so far?
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It all get installed by the weekend, looking forward to going to a car show Saturday with a friend, and cruising there with some tight bump in my trunk and knowing whether or not the po-po are trying to clock me.

I have only gotten up to 100mph so far, and that was on the way home when I bought it 2 weeks ago (tomorrow is the 'anniversary).

I just can't wait to get the factory painted window louvers in from Cervini, ugh, seems like they are taking forever.

Once I have the Escort 9500IX (the best!) installed AND next spring I have the LASER INTERCEPTOR installed so cops can't even CLOCK ME, then... I will try to get that beast up to 150'ish :)
 
Outstanding said:
It all get installed by the weekend, looking forward to going to a car show Saturday with a friend, and cruising there with some tight bump in my trunk and knowing whether or not the po-po are trying to clock me.

I have only gotten up to 100mph so far, and that was on the way home when I bought it 2 weeks ago (tomorrow is the 'anniversary).

I just can't wait to get the factory painted window louvers in from Cervini, ugh, seems like they are taking forever.

Once I have the Escort 9500IX (the best!) installed AND next spring I have the LASER INTERCEPTOR installed so cops can't even CLOCK ME, then... I will try to get that beast up to 150'ish :)
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Lol, so how many of those things are even legal? Or legal-ish?
 
Rjr3412 said:
Lol, so how many of those things are even legal? Or legal-ish?
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Well except for Virginia or Washington DC, I'm pretty sure radar detectors are legal in every single state. As far as the Laser Interceptor, it's a very gray area, hehe, but I know how to get out of it should someone search my car for some reason.

I don't much worry about legalities... as long as I'm not causing havoc in the society I am a part of, I am a believer in untainted liberty.
 
Outstanding said:
It all get installed by the weekend, looking forward to going to a car show Saturday with a friend, and cruising there with some tight bump in my trunk and knowing whether or not the po-po are trying to clock me.

I have only gotten up to 100mph so far, and that was on the way home when I bought it 2 weeks ago (tomorrow is the 'anniversary).

I just can't wait to get the factory painted window louvers in from Cervini, ugh, seems like they are taking forever.

Once I have the Escort 9500IX (the best!) installed AND next spring I have the LASER INTERCEPTOR installed so cops can't even CLOCK ME, then... I will try to get that beast up to 150'ish :)
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I'll just lie and say I clocked you. :p
 
StakedCop said:
I'll just lie and say I clocked you. :p
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I'm sure some cops do that, they are merely humans with a uniform and academy training - far from beyond reproach of course. Not disparaging the profession of COURSE, but just saying... it's sad that someone going 10mph over the speed 'limit' has to look over their shoulders like some type of criminal.

Anyway... the system and radar detector is in AND THE 22's ARE ORDERED AND WILL BE INSTALLED WITH ZR TIRES THIS COMING THURSDAY! Woooooo! :) They are gorgeous. Going to take him to his first car show tomorrow.

Other than that, have to make up a bunch more Sustanon-300 (I make my own custom dosage) and Tren Acetate along with some Prop I believe. Work work work, oh, and I'm going to make a couple hundred more Tbol batches.
 
Outstanding, if u dont mind me asking, how long have you been playing with GH and peptides for? Also how long did u run just normal aas before you decided to do so? And while im at it, how much of a difference do u feel to your physique have they truly made that you would not have been able to achieve with regular aas?
 
MakaveliThaDon said:
Outstanding, if u dont mind me asking, how long have you been playing with GH and peptides for? Also how long did u run just normal aas before you decided to do so? And while im at it, how much of a difference do u feel to your physique have they truly made that you would not have been able to achieve with regular aas?
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Hi MTD,

Of course I don't mind, thanks for the great questions, I'm happy to answer.

I have done four cycles in my life, still under the 30yr benchmark, and have only ever done pre-contest protocols rather than off-season bulking/lean mass accrual cycles (which will change in 2012 with a full dedicated off-season). I did my first cycle about five, MAYBE six years ago, just Test E and Fina converted Tren-A. That's all I've ever done actually aside from a few orals alongside the cycle, until this year, when I first experimented with Masteron and EQ, and more recently Sustanon. I ran a vial of GHRP-2 last year, definitely not enough to notice any massive physique changes, but my jaw did protrude along with finger and tongue swelling (I was quadruple dosing just to see the effects and to make sure my GHRP-2 was real... it was!)

What I have noticed, is hard to pinpoint since I'm on cycle, but I do feel as though the fat gain has been HALTED totally, which for me is sincerely a miracle, nothing short of a phenomenon (I can have a cheat meal and literally wake up the next morning swollen, water-logged and truly 5 pounds or MORE heavy... my metabolism is a mix of blessing and curse).

For the most part, I notice a feeling of leanness, a feeling of relaxation (from the GH pulse I assume) and also a feeling of compounding effects which means I believe the advantages are becoming more and more evident as the weeks pass by. Make sure to purchase from a reputable source, I purchase mine in bulk lots from the actual synthesizing laboratory, so it's all good :)
 
Just like Christmas morning... all of my goods arrived today. What a sight to behold. Winstrol, lots of IGF-1-LR3, GHRP-2, CJC1295 NO DAC, even MORE Anavar, and so on and so forth. Mmmmmmmmm. Time to go to work at the lab! :)
 
Just wondering, why IGF-1 LR3 and not DES? I've been looking into those, and it seems like (for me at least) DES would be the better fit.

I'm going for site specific increases in arms, chest and quads (maybe lats, shoulders and hamstrings too). Okay, I guess I want to grow everywhere, but I have priority spots I want to bring up first, LOL!
 
Outstanding said:
Just like Christmas morning... all of my goods arrived today. What a sight to behold. Winstrol, lots of IGF-1-LR3, GHRP-2, CJC1295 NO DAC, even MORE Anavar, and so on and so forth. Mmmmmmmmm. Time to go to work at the lab! :)
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What fun. Like a kid in a candy store with new toys, right?
 
Milas said:
Just wondering, why IGF-1 LR3 and not DES? I've been looking into those, and it seems like (for me at least) DES would be the better fit.

I'm going for site specific increases in arms, chest and quads (maybe lats, shoulders and hamstrings too). Okay, I guess I want to grow everywhere, but I have priority spots I want to bring up first, LOL!
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Hmmmm, I have no idea... I guess because IGF-1-LR3 has all the research behind it, and it's what I've been advised to use and am familiar with. What are the differences? :)
 
Summary: LR3 longer active life, DES more potent but shorter life (more site specific).
 
i noticed the peptide talk and im very interested. i ran CJC with DAC at 500mcg/week (when 2-5000mcg is recomended by most) and idk what i noticed. i would usually have joint problems while bulking and this past off season i had no problems with my wrist or anything. i also got upto 240 and was just as lean as last year when i had aas involved into my bulk. i would say i noticed low fat gains on this cycle, but i gotta say, i had little time for off season and i bulked..
im coming into a PCT stage now, out of a recomp cycle, and i Am very interested in a ghrp-2 and CJC combo. i was tihnking of 200mcg g2 2x/day + cjc w/ dac 250mcg 4x/week pre bed alongside with clen and low t3 to lean bulk with. ive read that g2 is better than g6, and that g6 makes you hungry after administration making it not idea for lean bulking. the CJC is weird too, ive read reviews of russianstar, and he almost swears by cjc with CJC dosed at 2000-5000mcg/week.
Whats your opinion on this guys? sorry for the hijack..
 
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