ALRIs product
- Thread starter knuckles
- Start date
hushdrops
New member
My ErgoMax Ordering "Adventure"
Has anyone else had any problem in ordering ErgoMax last week that was supposedly in stock only to find out that as of today (nearly one week later) it hasn't shipped as of yet?
I first ordered some ErgoMax bottles from an on-line store last Wednesday only to find out that even though the product was "in stock" according to their web site (and checkout cart, and in charing my credit card too) it really "wasn't in stock". That sucked because not only did it show up and become a hassle to watch out for with my credit card, it also delayed my time in finding a place that really did have ErgoMax in stock decreasing my odds of finding it at all in time before current supplies run out.
The funniest thing about that 1st shop is that they even had the nerve to keep my credit card charges in place and wanted to know if I would simply substitute the ErgoMax for another one of their even better & more effective pro-hormone post-ban type products! Yeah, like I'm going to substitute my ErgoMax order for some Tribulus and ZMA.
The next day I ordered from another on line store (after I received the email from the on line store that charged me for a product that didn't exist). I emailed the store this time immediately after placing the order to inquire about the ErgoMax being in stock "for real" this time before my CC was charged. They assured me that they had it in stock and more was on the way "next week" (which now happens to be "this week", the current time).
Apparently my order didn't make it out from last week's actual on-hand stock of ErgoMax and since ErgoMax at the least has been "discontinued", I can't understand how anyone could be receiving a shipment of ErgoMax this week?
Does anyone know if ALRI or some wholesaler perhaps, is shipping out ErgoMax this week in order to fill previously made orders before the product was pulled and all dealers were aware of the fact and therefore taking orders and charging buyer's credit cards accordingly?
I find it very possible that shops could indeed receive ErgoMax shipments to fulfill previously made orders unless it was truly "re-called" instead of merely discontinued. With a true re-call there's no way the ALRI would allow shipments go out in any way shape or form because in fact with a real re-call they would even expect stores to return un-sold or shipped bottles of ErgoMax back to them (ALRI)!
I really hope I receive my order of ErgoMax while it's still legal. It seems like a potentially powerful product for lean gains that should be less toxic than the known King of "pro-anything", M-1T.
Has anyone else had any problem in ordering ErgoMax last week that was supposedly in stock only to find out that as of today (nearly one week later) it hasn't shipped as of yet?
I first ordered some ErgoMax bottles from an on-line store last Wednesday only to find out that even though the product was "in stock" according to their web site (and checkout cart, and in charing my credit card too) it really "wasn't in stock". That sucked because not only did it show up and become a hassle to watch out for with my credit card, it also delayed my time in finding a place that really did have ErgoMax in stock decreasing my odds of finding it at all in time before current supplies run out.
The funniest thing about that 1st shop is that they even had the nerve to keep my credit card charges in place and wanted to know if I would simply substitute the ErgoMax for another one of their even better & more effective pro-hormone post-ban type products! Yeah, like I'm going to substitute my ErgoMax order for some Tribulus and ZMA.
The next day I ordered from another on line store (after I received the email from the on line store that charged me for a product that didn't exist). I emailed the store this time immediately after placing the order to inquire about the ErgoMax being in stock "for real" this time before my CC was charged. They assured me that they had it in stock and more was on the way "next week" (which now happens to be "this week", the current time).
Apparently my order didn't make it out from last week's actual on-hand stock of ErgoMax and since ErgoMax at the least has been "discontinued", I can't understand how anyone could be receiving a shipment of ErgoMax this week?
Does anyone know if ALRI or some wholesaler perhaps, is shipping out ErgoMax this week in order to fill previously made orders before the product was pulled and all dealers were aware of the fact and therefore taking orders and charging buyer's credit cards accordingly?
I find it very possible that shops could indeed receive ErgoMax shipments to fulfill previously made orders unless it was truly "re-called" instead of merely discontinued. With a true re-call there's no way the ALRI would allow shipments go out in any way shape or form because in fact with a real re-call they would even expect stores to return un-sold or shipped bottles of ErgoMax back to them (ALRI)!
I really hope I receive my order of ErgoMax while it's still legal. It seems like a potentially powerful product for lean gains that should be less toxic than the known King of "pro-anything", M-1T.
hushdrops
New member
reliable ErgoMax right now?
The two stores I used already were reputable by the way. Funny because the other places I haven't heard of and I probably would have been better off going with them.
If you know that the online shop that you used still has it in stock for $40, could you PM the location?
yeah i see that soem palces still have it, but after going through TWO places already, I don'to want to chance getting screwed again. you were lucky to get yours and maybe I'll get mine, that's why i was wondering if aynone knew if it's possible for a shop to recieve shipments of ErgoMax this week.Truck said:
The two stores I used already were reputable by the way. Funny because the other places I haven't heard of and I probably would have been better off going with them.
If you know that the online shop that you used still has it in stock for $40, could you PM the location?
Truck
Banned
DR.D
Well-known member
Truck said:
I don't see how the info in that link relates to this pheromone. First of all, I used it solo, so there was no other hormone involved to account for this gyno synergism that your referring too. Also, any non-aromatizing, 17-alkylated steroid(progestinic to some degree) will necessarily be an anti-estrogen, because progestins antagonize the effects of estrogen and non-aromatizing androgens are antagonistic if not in addition intrinsic enzyme inhibitors. So I understand your logic, but it does not apply in this case.
steve_81
Member
Hey, what website did you try to order from? I ordered mine last Monday from BB.com and since it was on backorder, they barely mailed it out yesterday. However, they did send me e-mails letting me know exactly what was going on and apologizing for the delay. But yeah, they had charged it to my credit card and for a second, I thought they weren't going to ship it, but like I said, it took a week but it will be here tomorrow.hushdrops said:Has anyone else had any problem in ordering ErgoMax last week that was supposedly in stock only to find out that as of today (nearly one week later) it hasn't shipped as of yet?
I first ordered some ErgoMax bottles from an on-line store last Wednesday only to find out that even though the product was "in stock" according to their web site (and checkout cart, and in charing my credit card too) it really "wasn't in stock". That sucked because not only did it show up and become a hassle to watch out for with my credit card, it also delayed my time in finding a place that really did have ErgoMax in stock decreasing my odds of finding it at all in time before current supplies run out.
The funniest thing about that 1st shop is that they even had the nerve to keep my credit card charges in place and wanted to know if I would simply substitute the ErgoMax for another one of their even better & more effective pro-hormone post-ban type products! Yeah, like I'm going to substitute my ErgoMax order for some Tribulus and ZMA.
The next day I ordered from another on line store (after I received the email from the on line store that charged me for a product that didn't exist). I emailed the store this time immediately after placing the order to inquire about the ErgoMax being in stock "for real" this time before my CC was charged. They assured me that they had it in stock and more was on the way "next week" (which now happens to be "this week", the current time).
Apparently my order didn't make it out from last week's actual on-hand stock of ErgoMax and since ErgoMax at the least has been "discontinued", I can't understand how anyone could be receiving a shipment of ErgoMax this week?
Does anyone know if ALRI or some wholesaler perhaps, is shipping out ErgoMax this week in order to fill previously made orders before the product was pulled and all dealers were aware of the fact and therefore taking orders and charging buyer's credit cards accordingly?
I find it very possible that shops could indeed receive ErgoMax shipments to fulfill previously made orders unless it was truly "re-called" instead of merely discontinued. With a true re-call there's no way the ALRI would allow shipments go out in any way shape or form because in fact with a real re-call they would even expect stores to return un-sold or shipped bottles of ErgoMax back to them (ALRI)!
I really hope I receive my order of ErgoMax while it's still legal. It seems like a potentially powerful product for lean gains that should be less toxic than the known King of "pro-anything", M-1T.
knuckles
New member
Luckily I ordered some two weeks ago and they have shipped. So I have another 6 week cycle and this will last me long enough until something new. I like this because it works by itself fine and doesn't have to be stacked. It is really interesting because it feels like it is really androgenic (vascularity, zits, modest strength) however not too bad on the hair or prostate.
knuckles
knuckles
hushdrops
New member
steve 81 -the 1st site that charged but said the next day it wasn't in stock and wanted to know if I wanted to substitute something else for ErgoMax was just as went with BB.com. It took them a couple of days past the backorder to update the site showing ErgoMax as discontinued. When I last spoke to them by phone last Friday they did tell me that if I wanted to keep my order they would be reciveing a lrage shipment of ErgoMax bottles this week but by that time I had already ordered from the 2nd site which assured me that they did have it in stock, "for real" and would also get 100+ bottles this week as well.steve_81 said:
So i cancelled with BB becuase I couldn't afford to keep both orders and went with the 2nd company as I eidn't feel comfortable with having to rely on BB reciving a shipment & knowing that they did NOT have the product in stock and from everything on the boards including the ALRI site, the chances of new Ergo bottles going out this week seemed slim to none but appartently a buddy of mine got his from BB today and my 2nd choice store also delivered mine today as well & they claimed that they got it in stock this week.
The only reason I thought teh 2nd"comapny may have screwed me over was because the tracking # info was messed up on UPS' side, not indicating that the product shipped when it did a cuopel of days ago! Normally I don't get so wound up and trust familiar online stores but this ErgoMax was a little on the "hectic" side due to it's status and passing the ban ... all of that. It better be a damn good supplement after all of the trouble to get it but at least the pricing was pretty low consdidering it's supposed potential especially if the two capsules per day dosage really does "hold up", you'll get a month out of each under $40 bottle. A lot cheaper than most 1,4 Andro porducts for instance (except for the killer deals on SciFit's 300mg AndroPoise that was on sale everywhere at half price or less the week of the ban)!
I hope we all can review some kick ass ErgoMax cycles this Spring / Summer!
hushdrops
New member
ErgoMax just may take the place of Test when running with Deca?
Running more Deca than Test is a whole other arguement as well as relying on ErgoMax to possibly tkae the place of Test in the Deca stack. So far though with the acne, agression, sense of well being and strong increase with the sex drive it's looking to be androgenic enough to do the trick and keep the Deca Dick away!
Hopefully it may be an easy to obtain (if you found it last week!) and inexpesnive alternative to real "Test" to go along with a Deca cycle (in case one cannot obtain Test and prefers Deca as the "base" in a Test / Deca style stack).knuckles said:
Running more Deca than Test is a whole other arguement as well as relying on ErgoMax to possibly tkae the place of Test in the Deca stack.
So far though with the acne, agression, sense of well being and strong increase with the sex drive it's looking to be androgenic enough to do the trick and keep the Deca Dick away!knuckles
New member
Brutal leg work out yesterday. Squats finished strong, leg press, leg ext with 2 drop sets. Leg curls, SLDLs, and then walking lunges. Tremendous pumps as usual. When I got done I could see veins on the front of my quads and winding through the tear drop. It looked and felt great and I haven't seen that before.
knuckles
knuckles
Grassroots082
Board Supporter
Hey knuckles, great log thus far. Have you checked your weight or are you planning on checking it later? Also are you going to have bloodwork done after? Thanks man keep up the good work.
Truck
Banned
your LMG solo gyno experience doesn't fit my model, no.DR.D said:
superdrol + high dose 4-ad exhibited gyno symptoms in users.
why do you mention "17-alkylated" - does methylation of non-aromatizing steroids somehow alter their progesterone effects? because tren and deca are known to cause prog gyno when used with test (w/o an AI) and they fit the model except they are not methylated.
Jack of Shadows
Member
DR.D said:
I have always wondered, since that is what my students call me now.
DR.D
Well-known member
Truck said:
I have honestly never gotten anything but strong androgenic effects and sides from 4AD, but I know people complain about this as you have said, so I can understand your point. 17-alkylated androgens are neccessarily progestinic. The bigger the sub, the more progestinic, that's why nobody uses Nilavar or Maxibolin anymore. Plus tren and deca are nors, so even though the aromatization potential is low, the progestinic effect is greater. Methyl or ethylate either one of them and you'd have a real nasty, but strongly anabolic progestin, even worse than the parent alcohol. Progestin antagonizes the effects of estrogen, but when combined in high enough doses, other factors come into play and synergistic estrogenic effects usually result once estrogen overcomes the progestin. My point about this product is that it seems to have some inherent estrogenic potential on it's own by some unknown mechanism.
dertynasty
$Money$
Great log Knuckles, i have been interested in the product for a few weeks now since i heard about it. Im trying to gather as Much info as possible now, i was going to order some today but im not sure if i should wait a little longer till the "new version" comes out from ALRI. Or the designer supps version.
Anyways the best price i could find was 42 bucks. If anyone has a better place to get it, or maybe some free shipping lemme know Thx guys, and once again good log knuckles
Anyways the best price i could find was 42 bucks. If anyone has a better place to get it, or maybe some free shipping lemme know
Thx guys, and once again good log knucklesknuckles
New member
Arm workout, once again, left me with debilitating pumps. I was done with bis after about 10 sets. On to tris and I was at my max on skullcrushers and dips. My workout partner commented, "Where did those veins come from, I've never noticed them before." Also my mother-in-law mentioned that I was "getting too big". Now I am definately not huge by any portions but this product is definately making a difference and others notice. I'm dying to try SD but will wait because once I try that, I have a feeling nothing will ever measure up.
Myo $42 is pretty much in the ball park and I have feeling that ALRIs next product won't compare to this but we will have to wait and see.
knuckles
Myo $42 is pretty much in the ball park and I have feeling that ALRIs next product won't compare to this but we will have to wait and see.
knuckles
dertynasty
$Money$
Sorry to hijack real quick, but you said you were thinking about running sd, and i remembered that i read some post that said it was just had stoppd being made but it was NOT illegal. What relevance does this have? If its not Illegal than would a source post of it be allowed? If not i guess i understand but if anyone has the low down on SD hit me up at my email (posted above) or post it on here , if its allowed. thx guys!
jmh80
Well-known member
Myo - you are correct that SD is still legal. (However, I think it is only a matter of time till someone gets wind and adds it to the ban list...) Regardless, the stance of the mods is that SD sourcing is illegal - just like AAS and PH's. So don't **** around, our mods don't play when it comes to sourcing.
Just a tip, never post your email asking for "substances" - you are bound to end up getting spammed, then possibly scammed.
Just a tip, never post your email asking for "substances" - you are bound to end up getting spammed, then possibly scammed.
dertynasty
$Money$
k cool bro.. i took off my emailjmh80 said:
I did ask to post sources, i was just saying if it was legal than you would just be saying where u can get it. I can understand posting illegal sources. But anyways thx
knuckles
New member
Shoulders on Friday and was really excited with some of the work. Got 40s x 10 on lateral raises which were clean not swinging or hoisting them up for the last two sets. Never have I gotten 40s for more than 4-5 reps. Wife says that my legs are getting too big. I laugh and tell I don't want to get them any bigger, , yeah right! Next week will be the last week. Got Sledges Rebound on the way and also will hopefully get some labs.
knuckles
, yeah right! Next week will be the last week. Got Sledges Rebound on the way and also will hopefully get some labs.knuckles
knuckles
New member
This is the beginning of the last week. 3 weeks down and I am really pleased with the results. Weight is about the same as last week, but I definately notice a difference. Vascularity is better and a bit more definition. Mood is still great and strength has increased but probably at or near a plateau now.
knuckles
knuckles
ketchup head
Banned
Hey knuckles how many mgs. are you at?
knuckles
New member
Yes 40 mg/d.
Chest workout was insane yesterday. I had chest pumps that were painful. Felt like it was tearing almost. Strength has really plateaued. I was looking at my back and there was a lot of difinition in it last night, which was pleasing. My only complaint with this is the acne. This is by far the worst I have had with acne. Its mostly back and shoulders, a few on the face.
knuckles
Chest workout was insane yesterday. I had chest pumps that were painful. Felt like it was tearing almost. Strength has really plateaued. I was looking at my back and there was a lot of difinition in it last night, which was pleasing. My only complaint with this is the acne. This is by far the worst I have had with acne. Its mostly back and shoulders, a few on the face.
knuckles
DR.D
Well-known member
knuckles said:
That was my main issue with this stuff, and the reason I never passed 20mg. It's too bad, because I like the basic effects. Don't worry... DS is working on something that will behave like this pheromone, but be much cleaner androgenicly
But in the meantime, Superdrol ain't a bad alternative!
dertynasty
$Money$
Yeh but in the meantime its NOT made anymore either or else im sure all of the cats on Ergomax would be on SD. Just my .02.DR.D said:That was my main issue with this stuff, and the reason I never passed 20mg. It's too bad, because I like the basic effects. Don't worry... DS is working on something that will behave like this pheromone, but be much cleaner androgenicly
knuckles
New member
That's exciting about DS and I knew it was coming but I just rather not draw him a lot of attention. I'm also interested in his NHA. I'm holding out on the Superdrol, I was only able to get one bottle. I don't want that to spoil any of my future expectations.DR.D said:That was my main issue with this stuff, and the reason I never passed 20mg. It's too bad, because I like the basic effects. Don't worry... DS is working on something that will behave like this pheromone, but be much cleaner androgenicly
Legs kicked azz yesterday. Strength was the best yet for legs. 315 x 10 felt really good. I think I could have 335 or 345 for reps of 8 which is near my personal bests. This stuff definately works. I will be interested in seeing how much I lose or don't lose during PCT.
knuckles
Mr.50
Board Supporter
DrD,
Will DS compound still give the strong libido boost? I hope so because thats the only thing I really liked about Ergomax when on other stuff that seems to suppress libido (low androbenic/high anabolic).
Mr.50
Will DS compound still give the strong libido boost? I hope so because thats the only thing I really liked about Ergomax when on other stuff that seems to suppress libido (low androbenic/high anabolic).
Mr.50
DR.D said:That was my main issue with this stuff, and the reason I never passed 20mg. It's too bad, because I like the basic effects. Don't worry... DS is working on something that will behave like this pheromone, but be much cleaner androgenicly
knuckles
New member
This is playing out to be like any other of the cycles I have done. Knowing that I have only 3-4 more days I am beginning to dread comng off. This has been as effective, for me, as a moderate dosing of 4AD/1T. Pumps have been good. My weight has gone up a modest but that is fine, since I don't need to bloat up 10-15 lbs and it turn out to be just water and glycogen. Strength has ben decent. I did bench yesterday for kicks when I got done with arms and got 225 x 14 which is a best for me. Just makes me look forward to using it again in the future.
knuckles
knuckles
hushdrops
New member
Not so quick...
note: not that i think there is anything at all wrong with SD, I'd buy some if I could find it -just that I'd choose ErgoMax 1st if I could only "afford one" and both were equally avialable for instance...
After what one of my friends at the gym has gotten out of ErgoMAX in only 21 days (15-17 lbs. and he's still seems lean) I think I'd disagree with choosing SD over ErgoMax LMG.Myostatin said:
note: not that i think there is anything at all wrong with SD, I'd buy some if I could find it -just that I'd choose ErgoMax 1st if I could only "afford one" and both were equally avialable for instance...
dertynasty
$Money$
Quick stupid question, does that ergomax pheromone have a negative effect on the hpta? Sorry i just woke up and i dont even know why im asking, if its blatently obvious.
dertynasty
$Money$
Quick stupid question, Does that ergomax pheromone have a negative effect on the hpta. Sorry i just woke up and i dont even know why im asking, if it blatently obvious.
knuckles
New member
Yes I believe it is going to shut one down and I don't believe the 6 weeks only mildly. I have been on for four weeks at 40 mg/d and I am noticing the nuts are about half the size. Now I know nut size is not the most accurate indicator of suppression but when they are noticeable smaller then somethings cooking. This elephant sweat is the real deal.
knuckles
knuckles
colkurtz_spf
The horror
DR.D,DR.D said:
I'm contemplating my next cutting cycle, and have the option of using MDien with MOHN or ergomax in combination with a thermogenic. I know that the MDien combo works but I'm curious about ergomax.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance.
DR.D
Well-known member
colkurtz_spf said:
I don't remember it striking me as a particularly good cutter. I was not on it long, but got more of a bulking vibe from it. Nevertheless, I do not doubt that it could be applied in such a way. M4OHN is my cutter of choice, along with a mild keto diet, yohimbe and an appetite suppressant, but the MD or Ergo are both theoretically great cutters due to their non-aromatizing nature and strong androgenic effect. I'd say give it a try because it did put me in a good mood w/out excessive hunger, so it may be great as a cutter.
colkurtz_spf
The horror
Thanks for your input. I think I'll give it a go.DR.D said:
colkurtz_spf
The horror
Have you had any problems with acne?44GOLFER said: