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Alpha-Yohimbine capsules

Autobody said:
always remember to take on empty stomach for fat loss.
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Mornings are deadly for me, with cereal cravings. Alpha-Burn immediately upon waking kills them within 15 minutes.
 
dsade said:
Mornings are deadly for me, with cereal cravings. Alpha-Burn immediately upon waking kills them within 15 minutes.
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ummm, no doubt. Im honestly having to force myself to eat in the morning and afternoon. Loving the mood and clean energy im getting so far matt. Girlfriend is also taking 2 caps a day and liking it alot. No negative sides at all (minus having to share my RPN goodies with her, lol)
 
john123131 said:
ummm, no doubt. Im honestly having to force myself to eat in the morning and afternoon. Loving the mood and clean energy im getting so far matt. Girlfriend is also taking 2 caps a day and liking it alot. No negative sides at all (minus having to share my RPN goodies with her, lol)
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Hopefully some quid pro quo action going on. She's probably sharing something pretty good, too.
 
justreading said:
Um why? Its just important to not take with carbs - never heard anyone mention you need an empty stomach
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Correct. It's fine to take with protein or fats. We just use the phrase "empty stomach" because most are not disciplined enough to limit meal types.
 
crader said:
My current stack is
DCP
ephedra and alphaburn
B vits
Lean Extreme
phosphatidyl choline
neovar and lipo pm
and all the little things..
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Nice stack. How about Eviscerate?
 
dsade said:
I think she meant pills. We growl at each other over the Eviscerate each morning.
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Got it, thanks! Why growl? Do you use Eviscerate sublingually? :D
 
strategicmove said:
Nice stack. How about Eviscerate?
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LOL yeah I meant pills. I use the Eviscerate also. Although to be honest right now I'm just trying to maintain where I'm at. I'm not super concerned with leaning out. I would love to but I will have to jump in serious mode to get ready for the Olympia. Thats 8-10 weeks of serious diet. So right now I'm just taking it day to day.
 
crader said:
LOL yeah I meant pills. I use the Eviscerate also. Although to be honest right now I'm just trying to maintain where I'm at. I'm not super concerned with leaning out. I would love to but I will have to jump in serious mode to get ready for the Olympia. Thats 8-10 weeks of serious diet. So right now I'm just taking it day to day.
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You should try adding some Thiamine disulfide it really has helped with appetite and it works nicely with Alpha-Y. Rasberry ketones are helping as well especially if I take 500mg before the last meal of the day. I know DCP has ketones in it so you have that covered.

Don't know what your using for your b-vitamins, but I just started using a Coenzymated B complex and it is very noticable compared to the oh-natural B vitamins. Still waiting for you guys to release the methyl b-12 strips- me likey!

The other thing I changed which I know is helping me cut so fast, is a multiple carnitine salt formula: I'm telling you it's nuts... adding of these newer carnitine salts- the combination has given me unlimited gym power when dieting and seems to help the leaning out and mentally I feel unstoppable.

L-Carnitine Tartrate
Glycine Propionyl-L-Carnitine
Acetyl-L-Carnitine Taurinate
Acetyl-L-Carnitine Arginate

Again I'm just sharing my thoughts, I know you and Dsade are well trained and well versed in supp science. I'm just trying to be more active on the forums. Good luck with your training and contest, I have no doubt you will be at your very best.:)

P.S. Are you taking krillipid? I hear NKO has some energy generating properties that are very noticable, I am getting some when it's out I think people should try this without hesitation. Dsade....you going to do a write-up?

Peace:)
 
LOL thanks for the info. I'm always up for trying different things. As we all react differently to things , you never know when something is going to click with you and be the missing link in your supplement protocol.

I have dieted down to a pretty low body fat percentage. I just hate the endless long competiton diets. I stay lean year round anyway, just not in the single digits with it being unhealthy for women to stay that low.

Probably around the end of July I'll go back into competiton mode dieting so that I can go represent the company at my meetings.
 
Well day 3 on AB. I waited until Day 3 to post is becuase I was shocked how much more I was dripping with sweat during my workouts. I wanted to make sure it happen again and sure enough 2 AB on empty stomach did the trick

I haven't even added the Ephedrine to it yet

I take 2 i n the morning around 7am and another 1 at around 2pm. One thing I did notice I am wiped tires at around 5 for 2 hrs then it seems to fade and i'm fine . Not sure if this is also due to AB ? Anyone else ?

Looks to be another Staple product... Will keep you updated
 
i'm still trying to get to using AB every day, but I can't quite manage it workout days. the problem is i'm working out fasted, and when I use the AB although its great for burning fat for the workout for some reason just leaves my stomach a little iffy through a hard workout. i'm fine for cardio, so i'm not 100% sure what the difference is.
 
EasyEJL said:
i'm still trying to get to using AB every day, but I can't quite manage it workout days. the problem is i'm working out fasted, and when I use the AB although its great for burning fat for the workout for some reason just leaves my stomach a little iffy through a hard workout. i'm fine for cardio, so i'm not 100% sure what the difference is.
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Its strange because I am having a ton of problems doing cardio???? Can't figure it out.

Mr.50
 
hmm whats your issue with cardio? i have an issue doing cardio, but its mostly that I just will use any excuse to avoid it :D
 
dollar662 said:
Really ? What kind of problems. I did 45 mintues today without issue felt great and dripping wet. I did sip Xtend during cardio
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I am definately dripping wet from my cardio (but I always do so I cant really tell if it is more with AB) but my endurance capacity seems affected....I cant seem to do my cardio for as long and also when i do cardio at a fixed level of work output (ex. I usually do level 8 and I am still doing level 8) it feels much harder then usual. With the amout of sweating I am doing I am not sure maybe I am just getting dehydrated but.....
 
Mr.50 said:
I am definately dripping wet from my cardio (but I always do so I cant really tell if it is more with AB) but my endurance capacity seems affected....I cant seem to do my cardio for as long and also when i do cardio at a fixed level of work output (ex. I usually do level 8 and I am still doing level 8) it feels much harder then usual. With the amout of sweating I am doing I am not sure maybe I am just getting dehydrated but.....
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dehydrated is possible if you have Xtend try drinking it during your cardio . It does wonders for my endurance
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dollar662 said:
dehydrated is possible if you have Xtend try drinking it during your cardio . It does wonders for my endurance
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and again, add some PLCAR PREWORKOUT to help with endurance.
 
dollar662 said:
OR maybe its the PLCAR thats helping my endurance and I gave the Xtend the credit : )
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PLCAR and Citrulline Malate have a decent synergy together.
 
I came across a link on another forum and wanted to have something clarified. I've been taking Alpha Burn prior to cardio (really enjoying it) first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. I recently incorporated some BCAA's prior to cardio as well. I read that the insulin spike, although small, due to the BCAA's can have an impact on the efficacy of the yohimbine.

Should I drop the BCAA's, or perhaps wait until after cardio to consume them?
 
Jbrooks said:
I came across a link on another forum and wanted to have something clarified. I've been taking Alpha Burn prior to cardio (really enjoying it) first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. I recently incorporated some BCAA's prior to cardio as well. I read that the insulin spike, although small, due to the BCAA's can have an impact on the efficacy of the yohimbine.

Should I drop the BCAA's, or perhaps wait until after cardio to consume them?
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I was thinking the exact same thing just the other day.
 
justreading said:
Really bad idea man... leucine is what causes the insulin spike ha. Going in the wrong direction on this advice
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Taking bcaa''s with an insulin mimetic will not only improve response but remove the prolonged anti-lipolytic effect of insulin.
 
dsade said:
Taking bcaa''s with an insulin mimetic will not only improve response but remove the prolonged anti-lipolytic effect of insulin.
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I had no idea of the effect just responding in line with the logic that the poster used in thinking it would have a negative effect thus if this were true then luecine alone would be worse than bcaa. If this logic is not right then the opposite can be true an it could have additional positive effects

That aside...

How is this true? Why are carbs bad with A-yoh or Yoh if it is not insulin related?
 
justreading said:
I had no idea of the effect just responding in line with the logic that the poster used in thinking it would have a negative effect thus if this were true then luecine alone would be worse than bcaa. If this logic is not right then the opposite can be true an it could have additional positive effects

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How is this true? Why are carbs bad with A-yoh or Yoh if it is not insulin related?
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insulin tends to suppres hormone sensitive lipase, both blunting lipolysis and increasing lipogenesis....which means the sooner we can can spike then suppress insulin levels thje quicker we cn return to a state of lipolysis.
 
dsade said:
insulin tends to suppres hormone sensitive lipase, both blunting lipolysis and increasing lipogenesis....which means the sooner we can can spike then suppress insulin levels thje quicker we cn return to a state of lipolysis.
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WTF???

I was always told you can't burn fat with insulin present....?

So for someone on a keto diet leucine throughout the day would be a good idea?

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I think I get what you are saying - if the poster had insulin active from a carb based meal then an insulin mimetic such as bcaa would have a positive effect by lowering blood sugar faster thus lowering insulin faster...
 
justreading said:
WTF???

I was always told you can't burn fat with insulin present....?

So for someone on a keto diet leucine throughout the day would be a good idea?

EDIT:

I think I get what you are saying - if the poster had insulin active from a carb based meal then an insulin mimetic such as bcaa would have a positive effect by lowering blood sugar faster thus lowering insulin faster...
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yep...you got it. the insulin signal is potent an important while prolonged insulin signalling promotes resistance.l

You're hired!
 
dsade said:
yep...you got it. the insulin signal is potent an important while prolonged insulin signalling promotes resistance.l

You're hired!
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Ok for us simple minded folks . Does that mean its OK to take BCAA with yohimbine or we shouldnt

Thanks for clairfication
 
justreading said:
WTF???

I was always told you can't burn fat with insulin present....?

So for someone on a keto diet leucine throughout the day would be a good idea?

EDIT:

I think I get what you are saying - if the poster had insulin active from a carb based meal then an insulin mimetic such as bcaa would have a positive effect by lowering blood sugar faster thus lowering insulin faster...
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leucine doesn't undergo gluconeogenesis (hence the reason for it solo vs bcaas) , so there is no glucose in bloodstream. plus it does trigger anabolism so if there is a momentary spike in insulin from it, its just that - momentary and also doesn't affect ketosis, etc. When people start talking about insulin spikes i mean seriously how much do you think 5g of leucine "spikes" it anyhow? 5g of dextrose doesn't spike it that much.
 
EasyEJL said:
leucine doesn't undergo gluconeogenesis (hence the reason for it solo vs bcaas) , so there is no glucose in bloodstream. plus it does trigger anabolism so if there is a momentary spike in insulin from it, its just that - momentary and also doesn't affect ketosis, etc. When people start talking about insulin spikes i mean seriously how much do you think 5g of leucine "spikes" it anyhow? 5g of dextrose doesn't spike it that much.
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Good stuff... headaches are killing my ability to think. no carbs diet
 
no doubt, my brainpower and mood sucks when i go from maintenance to sub-maintenance and low-carb together. but today was refeed/cheat/carbup, so all is well tonite :D peking duck with brown rice and mushu pancakes for dinner followed by local handmade ice cream. tomorrow will suck again
 
EasyEJL said:
no doubt, my brainpower and mood sucks when i go from maintenance to sub-maintenance and low-carb together. but today was refeed/cheat/carbup, so all is well tonite :D peking duck with brown rice and mushu pancakes for dinner followed by local handmade ice cream. tomorrow will suck again
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I am at a loss as to why I am not showing keto EVER and have these headaches
 
i used to be a big proponent of using the keto strips to measure till i realized they only work if you are in keto, and eating at maintenance or higer. Otherwise if you are in keto and 500~1000 cals below maintenance you shouldn't show significant ketones in urine as you are burning all that is being created and none are being peed out.
 
i know this was mentioned a few pages back, but is there anything negative to using AB with Y HCL?

ive got my bottle of AB, and my bottle of T-911 arrives tmrw, with each tab containing 3mg of y. should i just hold off on one or the other, what kind of dosage schedule should i use if both are in the mix?
 
Dsade, approx how long after dosing Alpha-Y would I have to wait to eat cards. For example I usually wake up at 6AM and immediately take my supplements. At 6:30 I eat breakfast (1 Cup Dry Oats). Is 1/2 hour enough time to wait?
 
gmc4180 said:
Dsade, approx how long after dosing Alpha-Y would I have to wait to eat cards. For example I usually wake up at 6AM and immediately take my supplements. At 6:30 I eat breakfast (1 Cup Dry Oats). Is 1/2 hour enough time to wait?
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Half hour is minimum. 45 minutes would be ideal.
 
dsade said:
Half hour is minimum. 45 minutes would be ideal.
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Awesome, thanks for the quick reply. BTW the PLCAR is killer. I've been mixing the first dose in my oatmeal, the second intraworkout. The boost in endurance I've seen is unreal! And the sweating is beyond anything I've experienced so far
 
We have about 60 units of PLCAR ready to send out...and an order for resupply coming.
 
Beau said:
How far in advance of creative activity?
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Put it this way...30-45 minutes before eating is plenty of time for the compound to become both neurally and physically active.

The effects are most potent for 2-3 hours, with a slight tapering down to the 5-6 hour mark.

So, for demanding creative work try to take it within an hour before.
 
dsade said:
Put it this way...30-45 minutes before eating is plenty of time for the compound to become both neurally and physically active.

The effects are most potent for 2-3 hours, with a slight tapering down to the 5-6 hour mark.

So, for demanding creative work try to take it within an hour before.
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Excellent. Demanding creative work; nice.
 
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