All DS Epi PCT
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TheBreeze
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You're exactly right. However, my curiosity was in how well it worked for the user. IMO it looks like it might be legit enough to work for a 4 week Epi cycle. What do you think?
Killerkanadia
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All flamers aside, you can probably recover just fine off a 4 week cycle with that stack.
TheBreeze
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Thats exactly what I was thinking. Cause I have 2 unopened bottles of CEL Estane which just happen to be burning a whole in the box they've been in since last November.
Ive heard however of many guys getting gyno and delayed onset gyno from epi. I want to run epi for at least 4 weeks but possible up to 6weeks if the cycle goes well enough. Do you think Id be safe after 6 weeks?
I do however have a bunch of liquid Nolva left from my P-mag cycle in April. The only reason Im trying to avoid an actual SERM is b/c the nolva gave me some of the meanest mood swings ever. I mean I was ready to kill someone when they closed my gym early one day. And that kind of moodiness is not only personally unacceptable but also socially and professionally.
baitslinger
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Try Clomid instead - its a great HPTA restorative.
But remember, your hormones are all out of whack, and will take a little time to come back to equilibrium. So mood swings are bound to happen when playing this game.
But remember, your hormones are all out of whack, and will take a little time to come back to equilibrium. So mood swings are bound to happen when playing this game.
TheBreeze
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Honestly, Clomid was one of my other options, however seeing how many guys complain about the crazy clomid mood swings, I don't think crying at work is really an option for me. Besides I work around mostly women, they would probably bring a therapist in and make me talk to him if I cried in front of them too many times. Plus Im already pretty edgy to start with, so anything that causes strong mood swings is like a last ditch effort IMO.
But thanks for the input anyways.
Killerkanadia
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You might want to run your PCT for a total of 6-8 weeks if you're worried about delayed onset.
Although i have no tried Triazole yet, I hear triazole takes about 3 weeks to get the results that their blood panels show. With something like Formastane, Erase, Bromo, ATD etc, you can have a pretty good feel for how well it's working.
On the other hand Epi doesn't aromatize, so the 2-3 weeks triazole might take, will probably just fine because you should have low estrogen after the cycle anyways.
Although i have no tried Triazole yet, I hear triazole takes about 3 weeks to get the results that their blood panels show. With something like Formastane, Erase, Bromo, ATD etc, you can have a pretty good feel for how well it's working.
On the other hand Epi doesn't aromatize, so the 2-3 weeks triazole might take, will probably just fine because you should have low estrogen after the cycle anyways.
TheBreeze
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Good point, and well taken. At first thought I only wanted to run this PCT for 4 weeks however, with how well it seems to be working in guys just running the DS stack not for PCT it would probably be worth stretching in out another 2 weeks or so.
If I were to run this for an Epi PCT would it be smart to taper the doses down after the main 4 weeks or would it be more beneficial to just run it straight though to the end with the same dosing?
Robboe
Handsome and intelligent
Just want to interject here that we have two blood panels showing significant increases in testosterone within four and five days of Triazole use.
Killerkanadia
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I didn't mean to call you out or anything, that's just what i heard. But i have also heard that the test boosting properties are out standing, i think i was referring more to the estrogen control. I could be completely off base as well with that too.
Killerkanadia
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Unlike steroidal AI's, you won't need to taper Trizole. You shouldn't have any estrogen rebound that would affect gyno. Not after 6 weeks of use.
TheBreeze
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Good call KK. The DS stack keeps looking better and better every day. Plus it seems like a very simple PCT. Chances are this will be my PCT if/when I finally jump on the Epi sitting on my shelf. Now I just gotta find the right time.
DRip
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I dont know the log but i decided to run Actx + Triazole(2) and get regular bloodwork done regarding hormone serum levels and am currently 4 weeks in
you can search my username in bodybuilding.com to find the thread, i have scanned all of the lab reports into the thread, i would put them up here but cant post images yet...good chance thread got deleted though was some mild AAS talk in it that got me banned for good....fukn ****got admin