Do you think it is fine to stay on daa year round?
hahahai dunno.
lack of evidence that its bad isnt the same as evidence that its not bad
not sureHow do you think nmda will compare to daa?
okay so your neutral on this subject until research comes out ?i dunno.
lack of evidence that its bad isnt the same as evidence that its not bad
longest i took it without a break was probably 6 months.okay so your neutral on this subject until research comes out ?
The dinoii guy in the adavanced q and a section said he stayed on a year straight and so did Dr D. what is the longest you have taken daa?
I have been taking daa for 4 months with a week break every 6-8 weeks, and this time on the break I want to stay on because I seem to feel really good while taking it.
i would hope you would feel more energy and stamina both in and out of the gym. what that translates into as far as gains go depends on what you do with ithey pat, if a person is all natural and havent used anything anabolic in say 5-6 years, what type of results would one expect with DAA? I havent tried it yet so Id like to hear your results since you are a wealth of knowledge to this community. im looking for a slight ergo aid to use in the offseason for bodybuidling that wont effect my contest prep and its results. is there anything that would compare, say creatine, or are the results on muscle different since its different pathways?
sorry for answering if I am interupting since this is P's section-much respect to you Patrickhey pat, if a person is all natural and havent used anything anabolic in say 5-6 years, what type of results would one expect with DAA? I havent tried it yet so Id like to hear your results since you are a wealth of knowledge to this community. im looking for a slight ergo aid to use in the offseason for bodybuidling that wont effect my contest prep and its results. is there anything that would compare, say creatine, or are the results on muscle different since its different pathways?
Can you find out?not sure
there is no such thing as a sodium chelate. sodium salt yeswhy in the testforce you use DAA calcium chelated and no sodium chelated? any particular reason?
i used the word "feel" in my response to you. should i have capitalized it, italicized it?well, i understand its boost, but what i mean is.......will it be noticeable or will I "feel" a difference? .
I'll get right on thatCan you find out?
hahaha! In for a PA headstand!!!i used the word "feel" in my response to you. should i have capitalized it, italicized it?
maybe i should stand on my head
i used the word "feel" in my response to you. should i have capitalized it, italicized it?
maybe i should stand on my head
it has not been scientifically proven to give you stamina.lol.........the energy and stamina thing...........um ok, lol! isnt that what caffeine does already?
since we are talking science and thats what you do...........why dont you explain how DAA scientifically has proven to give you more "stamina and energy" as opposed to taking 1g of caffeine during the day?
Im looking for a detailed response because I would love to hear the story behind why you use DAA and endorse it. thanks bud.
lol.........the energy and stamina thing...........um ok, lol! isnt that what caffeine does already?
since we are talking science and thats what you do...........why dont you explain how DAA scientifically has proven to give you more "stamina and energy" as opposed to taking 1g of caffeine during the day?
Im looking for a detailed response because I would love to hear the story behind why you use DAA and endorse it. thanks bud.
not quite3.12g
Some kid at my high school had it memorized to like 500 digits. :wtf1:not quite
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Some kid at my high school had it memorized to like 500 digits. :wtf1:
lmao!not quite
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the comment on herb from pakistan was a jab at some of the products out there that contain all kinds of weird traditional medicine crap from all over the world. at least DAA has some good old western science behind itlmao!
Pat I wasnt trying to be a smart ass.............I am just very cautious about what I put in my body now because ive had some medical history that I try to take care of now. Just trying to know what Im getting into before I buy such a product. I dont want you to sell me on it, no point, I am just a curious george.
BTW, im in california, not pakistan dude. not sure what that reference way towards, Im a big ass white boy.
ok cool...........I know this might be a silly question but do you think t2 and DAA would be a good combo to start back into bodybuilding mix. remember my body is fresh and my receptors are very very upregulated from proper diet, rest and adequate training.the comment on herb from pakistan was a jab at some of the products out there that contain all kinds of weird traditional medicine crap from all over the world. at least DAA has some good old western science behind it
DAA is not something you need to really be wary of because the side effect reports are relatively miniscule. There is little harm to try the stuff to see if its for you, besides a light hit on your wallet
thats alright Pat, im a meathead who is mostly at home most of the day......so im a bit of an oddball myself. thats why we get so interested in bodybuilding because its a solo act, and no one else to blame. In fact, I look up to you for creating what you did with 1AD and whatnot.I am not very good with people
ok cool...........I know this might be a silly question but do you think t2 and DAA would be a good combo to start back into bodybuilding mix. remember my body is fresh and my receptors are very very upregulated from proper diet, rest and adequate training.
im pretty broke right now, but hope to find a job soon(health issues, long story)............I saw on here that phenorex and DAA bulk are on sale............do you think a run of 4 weeks would yield nice results?
I have learned more isnt always better, so its why im asking so many questions. im 6'2 240 around 12% bodyfat all from hard work and proper nutrition once again.
thanks in advance bro
thats alright Pat, im a meathead who is mostly at home most of the day......so im a bit of an oddball myself. thats why we get so interested in bodybuilding because its a solo act, and no one else to blame. In fact, I look up to you for creating what you did with 1AD and whatnot.
You have to understand us bodybuilders speak the same language............muscle bound, lol!
as long as you put into words what you are trying to say, we can figure it out man.
i am not sure if there are other aminos that do that. i do have a patent pending on the combo and i make that well known. whether that has anything to do with why others dont use the combo i am not sure. maybe others are just too dumb to figure it out?This thread had me laughing the whole way through. Curious in TestForce2 the addition of Sarcosine is to block the reuptake of glycine, why hasn't any other brand tried to find another way to block it also? Is Sarcosine the only known amino that has that affect?
Haha fair enough.i am not sure if there are other aminos that do that. i do have a patent pending on the combo and i make that well known. whether that has anything to do with why others dont use the combo i am not sure. maybe others are just too dumb to figure it out?
3,3'-Diiodothyroninewtf is t2?
i didnt know he meant that t2. i thought he meant a supplement called t23,3'-Diiodothyronine
aka t2 in comparison to t3 and t4 thyroid hormones.........come on pat, lol
the original question was.........would DAA and t2 would be ok on a natural bodybuilder. ive been doing this drug free the last 5 years and wanna continue without AAS, just dont react to them well. I will probably need a script for SLIN in the future as I am pre diabetic naturally(gain weight really easy when eating carbs)i didnt know he meant that t2. i thought he meant a supplement called t2
as far as t2 goes i suppose it has thyroid hormone potential. no one has ever really quantified its activity in the real world with bodybuilders and stuff though.
i know that thyroid hormone can be of benefit with bodybuilders. in situations such as low calorie dieting (where basal metabolism is decreased) and as adjunct to heavy steroid and/or GH cycles (which can cause thyroid suppression)
anyway what was the original question?
Yes, daa is useful for guys who do not use synthetic hormones, getting ready for a show absolutely. The true natural competitors use it pre contest because long dieting and cardio can decrease testosterone levels. Ive done the whole non hormonal thiong for three years following the ocb/ifpa rules-very strict and nothing hormonal, even otc. I switched over the the NGA- which call their selves natural and allow otc only, as long as you buy it over the counter and pass the urine test, it is allowed.the original question was.........would DAA and t2 would be ok on a natural bodybuilder. ive been doing this drug free the last 5 years and wanna continue without AAS, just dont react to them well. I will probably need a script for SLIN in the future as I am pre diabetic naturally(gain weight really easy when eating carbs)
my biggest concern is keeping the fat gain at bay as im slowly trying to add some size. I figured a low dose of both wouldnt inhibit gains too much right?
yeah im trying to do the natural route and see what my genetics give me.......reason for all the questions. once i win at that, then maybe I will think about hormones like peptides and SLIN.Yes, daa is useful for guys who do not use synthetic hormones, getting ready for a show absolutely. The true natural competitors use it pre contest because long dieting and cardio can decrease testosterone levels. Ive done the whole non hormonal thiong for three years following the ocb/ifpa rules-very strict and nothing hormonal, even otc. I switched over the the NGA- which call their selves natural and allow otc only, as long as you buy it over the counter and pass the urine test, it is allowed.
Most of the natural guys use over the counter stuff-take it from me I have competed in the NGA. The only guy I truly believe has not used any over the counter hormonals is Layne Norton. I am thinking about taking a stab at the NPC using OTC only.
to answer your questions about t2 I dont know - DAA can help a lot when dieting.
Pat,
If a persons pct consists of hcg the first two weeks, where would daa come in?
the reason I ask is because a while back in an Musculardevelopment magazine article about PCt, in your column, it is mentioned to do hcg a couple times during the cycle and at the end. Do you think it is wise to do it the first two weeks during pct and wait to add daa in, or not do hcg at all, only during the cycle, and use daa?
My thoughts are adding daa the last week or two of the cycle may help and for sure adding it as soon as pct begins; however not sure if this would be advisable if hcg is used at the same time?
to keep the boys functioning? will it stop HPTA shutdown?I dont see anything wrong with using DAA and hcg at the same time. I think if you can afford it then it might be smartest to use DAA all through a cycle and through PCT as well (regardless of whatever stuff you are taking)
to keep the boys functioning? will it stop HPTA shutdown?