Airborne's Quest to PowerLifting (and whatever he's on ATM)

AZMIDLYF said:
I also haven't seen you do any sort of a deload period. You have been crushing it forever without any break AB. Granted,you have been on super supps and youth is a wonderful thing but the body might need to take a little recoup here.
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Our top guy doesn't believe in deloads he considers his the week before the meet. If I feel like one of my major lifts stalls I will take that day off the following week. If you know what I mean?
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yeah a 455 bench sounds like a horrible day... I wish! You do have to expect things to start slowing down some as the exogenous testosterone levels lower. Also you may want to look into getting something for cortisol control it will really help with avoiding the muscle loss. Your system will see the lack of higher test as an extremely stressful situation and start producing cortisol in spades. Cortisol = Catabolism.
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More unnecessary demonization of cortisol. Yes, the levels are going to be higher during PCT since that's what happens as you go further into cycles, but I'd be more worried about the Division 1 that he's taking rather than fear of cortisol.
 
Rodja said:
You lose strength in a week?
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Not terribly bad,but as I said more so than when I just stick with the weight I was at,or as close as I can.I have done a deload and not deloaded it multiple times and have just found i prefer to try to stay as close to what I was working with when on.Thats not saying I dont bring down the intensity some,but I dont intentionally,I just go with what feels best for my body.
 
Mack411 said:
Not terribly bad,but as I said more so than when I just stick with the weight I was at,or as close as I can.I have done a deload and not deloaded it multiple times and have just found i prefer to try to stay as close to what I was working with when on.Thats not saying I dont bring down the intensity some,but I dont intentionally,I just go with what feels best for my body.
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What kind of numbers are you at right now? The reason I ask is that further along you get, the more that you have to vary your training and implement deloads.
 
Rodja said:
What kind of numbers are you at right now? The reason I ask is that further along you get, the more that you have to vary your training and implement deloads.
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What numbers do you mean?Always in for helpful advice.
 
Rodja said:
You are in PCT, correct? If so, Div 1 can be counter productive to the negative feedback loop that is necessary to have a SERM do its job in kickstarting the HPTA.
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****... Good idea to drop it I see. Worked last time but this may be diff
 
Rodja said:
Worked as in blood tests show recovery from baseline numbers or worked as in you felt ok?
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It was something I added last time on an Sd only cycle that I immediately saw an increase in hunger and libido within the first week
 
Airborne42 said:
It was something I added last time on an Sd only cycle that I immediately saw an increase in hunger and libido within the first week
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Placebo is a powerful thing. Division 1/Divanil has a role and is a great supplement, but it must be used in the appropriate setting.
 
Rodja said:
Placebo is a powerful thing. Division 1/Divanil has a role and is a great supplement, but it must be used in the appropriate setting.
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Any ideas on some studies I can read up on? I'm glad you chimed in brother! Thank you
 
Airborne42 said:
Any ideas on some studies I can read up on? I'm glad you chimed in brother! Thank you
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Interaction of lignans with human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG).

Schottner M, Gansser D, Spiteller G.

Lehrstuhl Organische Chemie I, Universitat Bayreuth, Germany.

Lignans bind to sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG). The lignan with the highest binding affinity is (+/-)-3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran. In a double Stobbe condensation--without use of protecting groups--a wide variety of lignans with different substitution pattern in the aromatic and aliphatic part of the molecule was synthesized. These lignans were tested in a SHBG-binding assay which allowed to deduce the following relationship between structure and activity: 1) (+/-)-diastereoisomers are more active than meso compounds 2.) the 4-hydroxy-3-methoxy (guajacyl) substitution pattern in the aromatic part is most effective 3.) the activity increases with the decline in polarity of the aliphatic part of the molecule.

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Lignans from the roots of Urtica dioica and their metabolites bind to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG).

Schottner M, Gansser D, Spiteller G.

Lehrstuhl Organische Chemie I, Universitat Bayreuth, Germany.

Polar extracts of the stinging nettle (Urtica dioica L.) roots contain the ligans (+)-neoolivil, (-)-secoisolariciresinol, dehydrodiconiferyl alcohol, isolariciresinol, pinoresinol, and 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran. These compounds were either isolated from Urtica roots, or obtained semisynthetically. Their affinity to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) was tested in an in vitro assay. In addition, the main intestinal transformation products of plant lignans in humans, enterodiol and enterolactone, together with enterofuran were checked for their activity. All lignans except (-)-pinoresinol developed a binding affinity to SHBG in the in vitro assay. The affinity of (-)-3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran was outstandingly high These findings are discussed with respect to potential beneficial effects of plant lignans on benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH).

You have to extrapolate from the data a bit and understand the full role of SHBG. During PCT E2 is going to be elevated from a SERM, which is exactly what you want as this is what increases test again. I can go a bit further if needed.
 
Ok I understand where your coming from! I'll read more into it! Makes sense to me a bit! Thank you bro! Glad your still in this
 
Rodja said:
Placebo is a powerful thing. Division 1/Divanil has a role and is a great supplement, but it must be used in the appropriate setting.
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I've read various suggestions about appropriate for Divanil - one thing I read said not to run it solo, combine it with L-Dopa....something about raising free test... (I'll try to find the reference)

Anyone know anything about that?
 
LizKing531 said:
I've read various suggestions about appropriate for Divanil - one thing I read said not to run it solo, combine it with L-Dopa....something about raising free test... (I'll try to find the reference)

Anyone know anything about that?
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Running it with an AI is the best route as it helps to lower E2, which is freed up along with test.
 
Alright Pull day!!! Wish me luck!

2 scoops Razor8
4 uncapped Swoll-N
2 scoops Test Powder
 
Not happy... Takin next back day off. Need recovery. I'm up a pound tho.
 
Fillin the XL
 

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Time for Purus to step it up to XXL!
 
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Man this pic really shows of how lean you are (IE V-taper to waist) and how much of what your weight is muscle. Looking swole!!! Kinda look like a bigger Ryan Reynolds from Blade Trinity.

What is the main ingredient in E-Pro? PCT Revolution Black controls both Estrogen and Cortisol it is the same ingredient in the original ERASE but a 100mg in the 2 servings per day.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Man this pic really shows of how lean you are (IE V-taper to waist) and how much of what your weight is muscle. Looking swole!!!

What is the main ingredient in E-Pro? PCT Revolution Black controls both Estrogen and Cortisol it is the same ingredient in the original ERASE but a 100mg in the 2 servings per day.
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Ordering! You talked me.into it! Haha thank you bro! And I'm serious I'm ordering haha ill run e pro till its here. Gonna start today. Haven't used epro yet
 
Smashed shoulders today! Felt good! A lil nauseous! Almost done with my second bottle of Achilles and have not had any shoulder issues! Slowly working my shoulder strength back up! Was very hungry couldn't wait to get home and drink a Recover-D shake! It's my fav with VMS. Price wise between the two VMS has more per container at cheaper cost. This is the ONLY issue I have with Recover-D. But Recover-D has proven more effective in the recovery department. The taste is delicious!
 
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Man this pic really shows of how lean you are (IE V-taper to waist) and how much of what your weight is muscle. Looking swole!!! Kinda look like a bigger Ryan Reynolds from Blade Trinity.

What is the main ingredient in E-Pro? PCT Revolution Black controls both Estrogen and Cortisol it is the same ingredient in the original ERASE but a 100mg in the 2 servings per day.
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Ha! I thought the same thing!!
 
Back in the mix today! Gonna smash some ****in squats!!!!
 
So it wasn't just me, and AB you will like the PCT Revolution Black.


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Kleen I've been following for a while hoping to see some blood test results after coming off everything including trt. I noticed you made mention of using ph's again soon in another thread. Did you get some blood tests back yet?
 
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Kleen I've been following for a while hoping to see some blood test results after coming off everything including trt. I noticed you made mention of using ph's again soon in another thread. Did you get some blood tests back yet?
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I am going to get them before I start. Will be the deciding factor for getting on TRT, if below 500 I will just get on TRT under 500 is not a fun place to be and right now I don't feel I am quite there. Of course my levels were under 500 before I started the cruise too. If I am right then I will get on TRT while my levels are in the bucket from the PH run.
 
It's GO time!!!

1 multi
2 scoops Test Powder
1 scoop Prodigy
1 Versa1
3 uncapped Swoll-N
 
**** yall!!! 2nd week into pct and hit a parallel 650! Not to mention after a 1000+ leg press for 5 slow reps. The coach just started lifting again 2 weeks ago after 3 surgeries and he's already where I'm at... Wtf lol

My experience today... Squats were awesome... I feel alive!!! My coach broke out the smelling salt and made me smell it before each squat! Holy **** is it brutal!!!

I also learned to yell when I'm pushing. Instead of letting air out slowly I just yell. Got it from the Olympic lifters.

Weight is STILL the same! The awesome thing is I could move up a loop on my squat belt meaning I lost some of my gut! Overall very pleased!

Suppdate comin shortly...
 
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