I should just have faith in my own past experiences, basically.People don’t think about how compounds effects everyone differently. Two people running the same cycle can have totally different effects.
I should just have faith in my own past experiences, basically.People don’t think about how compounds effects everyone differently. Two people running the same cycle can have totally different effects.
I have to take that stuff with food, or it nurns right through my gut like a wildfire.Yes, BUT, if it's the cycle support I am having a reaction to this will show that. There's a lot of ingredients in arimacare I don't take except for in that product. The fact that I pretty much reversed my recovery by taking it makes me wonder, "wassup with that?"
I didn't notice anything like that but I definitely noticed when taking it made my hands swell up like balloons.I have to take that stuff with food, or it nurns right through my gut like a wildfire.
Yeah that never happens to me. If anything, the opposite as it dries me right out.I didn't notice anything like that but I definitely noticed when taking it made my hands swell up like balloons.
Absolutely. Doing great.Hows it going now? You able to flush all that water?
Good deal, from what I know dmz is a very dry compound, was your **** just old?Absolutely. Doing great.
Extremely accuratePeople don’t think about how compounds effects everyone differently. Two people running the same cycle can have totally different effects.
Nope, I just took more DHEA than my body wanted to use correctly, didn't catch it right away. And I'm pretty sure I just happen to also be allergic to something in arimacare pro. The increased water from the DHEA and the histamine from taking arimacare made my hands swell up.Good deal, from what I know dmz is a very dry compound, was your **** just old?
Be praying for you man!So, my hands feel like they're swelling up tonight. BP is up. Feeling like Superdrol at four weeks to be honest. I think this is an old batch of Raws or something they used. 30mg daily split, along with 200mg DHEA split, and 200mg 7 Keto DHEA 3b acetate split. Dint really get the results I wanted, obviously. expected as much. Stuff would just be getting good usually.
If I don't post for awhile is because I'm in the hospital. Had some chest pains earlier. Might just be psychosomatic. Just chilling out for the night watching Jean Claude Van Johnson. I'll go in if I don't feel better in the morning.
THIS IS NOT AT ALL WHAT MY PRIOR EXPERIENCES WITH DMZ HAVE BEEN LIKE.
Well that isn't going to help much, I've already fixed the problem!Be praying for you man!
Ya. Posted that when I read your first post about a half hour ago. Was way behind in the thread. Glad you are better!Well that isn't going to help much, I've already fixed the problem!
Well, I used to watch a lot of Home Improvement so I guess I have a little Tim Taylor somewhere in my head.You’re a badass dude, man...Dig your knowledgeable forum presence
So...EXTREMELY bad luck! Glad your on point to figure all that out before you had to check into the hospitalNope, I just took more DHEA than my body wanted to use correctly, didn't catch it right away. And I'm pretty sure I just happen to also be allergic to something in arimacare pro. The increased water from the DHEA and the histamine from taking arimacare made my hands swell up.
I have never had an experience quite like this. That's why I was pretty sure something was wrong beyond a simple hormonal issue. I've had estrogenic water retention before and it wasn't nearly that uncomfortable.
Your taking dmz in pct?Hey man. I hope everything works out for you. I'm taking aggressive labz mkelite only 15mg a day in PCT for the IGF 1 increase. Sucks that your experiencing sides, does make you wonder what they put in that batch? I do know the stuff I'm taking increased my appetite, but don't have the tingling in the hands like I had on medfitrx Kong, from the MK.
Hes taking mk677 it says here. Aggressive Labz MkElite.Your taking dmz in pct?
Aspirin is relatively effective. Particularly low dose aspirin. Otherwise Hawthorne berry extract, Garlic, and beta vulgaris extract are supposed to help as well. Cialis will also lower blood pressure fairly effectively.Glad you're feeling better Old Witch.
Hopefully you dont mind me throwing out some of my own DMZ symptoms. I'm wondering if anyone has some advice. Im two weeks into a solo DMZ run, strength and size has been great. I had a very minor strain in my neck or shoulder earlier this week and then at the end of the day I felt a migraine coming on. That went away, but today (two days later) I woke up with a minor headache that has persisted the entire day. Its accompanied with a real zoned out feeling all day long.
I'm guessing the headache is blood pressure related. I tested myself at a Kroger and it was 138. Im not sure how accurate those free blood pressure cuffs are. Ive been taking Tudca and NAC all cycle, my water intake has been pretty high, maybe too much salt on accident. Anyone have any advice to alleviate these symptoms? If I feel like this for another day or two I'll have to end the cycle. I need to be clear headed and headache free for work.
Buy the Hawthorn Berry extract and Celery Seed extract, and take them. And stop by and check your blood pressure.Thanks for the suggestions. Does the dull day long headache sound pretty typical of high blood pressure? Im hoping thats all it is.
I had looked into hawthorne berry but it sounded like it took time to build up in your system and i would have needed to start dosing it weeks back. I'll try low dose aspirin for a while I really want to continue this cycle. I feel strong as ****!
On a side note i chugged half a gallon of milk today. I had read that high dose pottassium can sometimes fix a headache. Anyone else heard of that?
Well, the DMZ seems legit. So I'm hoping to get a clean run with Hellblazer. I would imagine my BP will be higher than this time, but without my mistakes it will be very productive. I also seem to be highly sensitive to androgens these days, low doses are doing me well. I always go by feel rather than what people say is an effective dosage. If I'm having fantastic training sessions and making solid progression every week, no reason to take more. I think the black pepper (bioperine) and grapefruit (dihydroxybergamottin) are more to make that other stuff they put in there absorb and last longer, though I can tell the DMZ definitely lasts a long time in the system. My preworkout dose is three hours beforehand and it feels like I just took right before I hit the gym. I think the fact they put tudca and NAC in them is good but they ought to tell you how much is in there. If they put in 300mg tudca and 600mg NAC then they could fit the compound in, since it's only a few mgs, and leave the rest of that stuff out of there; it would be perfect.So your a fan of Aggressive Labz? I'm impressed with the mk elite cause they use grapefruit and black pepper to improve absorption. I'm only dosing 15mg but it seems to help me sleep better.
No. I don't really buy into that stuff. The best natural testosterone booster is human chorionic gonadotropin, everything else is... Bunk.Did you take any natty booster when you cycled dmz
Why not first try lowering the dose of the DMZ if the high blood pressure continues and see if that works rather than discontinuing the cycle?If I feel like this for another day or two I'll have to end the cycle. I need to be clear headed and headache free for work.
Huh ???? Are you special needs or what dude ? Lol .The name of what he's taking is right at the top of this thread , you dope .Aggressive Labs DMZ . I've had good results with two of their products .Bud, what is the product name? and company?
Wait so you feel 20mg pwo is better than 15mg pwo and 15mg later in the day? Or did you mean 30mg pwo? I'm running DMZ shortly but was planning to split it. I didn't think it had an immediate effect that would work pwo but I'll find out. Doesn't hurt to experiment a few different ways.Also, for the record: 20mg DMZ daily all at once as a preworkout dose works better than 15mg twice daily, with less sides.
I think this should be adopted as the basic MEP, multiple effective protocol.
Would also want to research DMZ’s half life to determine best protocol for dosage frequency.Wait so you feel 20mg pwo is better than 15mg pwo and 15mg later in the day? Or did you mean 30mg pwo? I'm running DMZ shortly but was planning to split it. I didn't think it had an immediate effect that would work pwo but I'll find out. Doesn't hurt to experiment a few different ways.
I believe its about 12 hours, which is why my first thought would be to split. Anyways at 45mg maybe 30mg pwo, 15mg 12 hours later rather than 15mg 3x/day if it gives you a good boost.Would also want to research DMZ’s half life to determine best protocol for dosage frequency.
Could always take 22.5 mg twice a day by taking one pill and a half if it has a 12 hour life. This could minimize potential blood pressure spikes from taking a 20 mg dose. Are they pills or capsules?I believe its about 12 hours, which is why my first thought would be to split. Anyways at 45mg maybe 30mg pwo, 15mg 12 hours later rather than 15mg 3x/day if it gives you a good boost.
You could still split them. It isn't an exact science, but it's close enough for this purpose.Guess you cant cut them then.
Definitely.Would the hellblazer be stronger then dmz just a thought
It seems to do 90% of its work in the gym and everything it could contribute outside of that would be sides. It doesn't seem to boost recovery very much at all taking a dose between sessions of training. So that's why I say 20mg preworkout only. That's roughly what you get from two 15 mg doses on that second dose, 20mg. Because of the half life being 8-12 hrs, it's still in your system all day anyway.Wait so you feel 20mg pwo is better than 15mg pwo and 15mg later in the day? Or did you mean 30mg pwo? I'm running DMZ shortly but was planning to split it. I didn't think it had an immediate effect that would work pwo but I'll find out. Doesn't hurt to experiment a few different ways.
Ok keep that in mind for futureDefinitely.
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