Aggressive Labz DMZ - Jumping off at 3 wks 3 days. (Side effect report.)

[Old Witch]

So, my hands feel like they're swelling up tonight. BP is up. Feeling like Superdrol at four weeks to be honest. I think this is an old batch of Raws or something they used. 30mg daily split, along with 200mg DHEA split, and 200mg 7 Keto DHEA 3b acetate split. Dint really get the results I wanted, obviously. expected as much. Stuff would just be getting good usually.


If I don't post for awhile is because I'm in the hospital. Had some chest pains earlier. Might just be psychosomatic. Just chilling out for the night watching Jean Claude Van Johnson. I'll go in if I don't feel better in the morning.

THIS IS NOT AT ALL WHAT MY PRIOR EXPERIENCES WITH DMZ HAVE BEEN LIKE.

 

[Old Witch]

Actually, on second thought, I'll just go in if I collapse. This swelling in the hands is really a pain in the ass though; my rings don't fit.

 

[gspark05]

You alright? Hang in there boss

 

[Borashi]

Hey man. I hope everything works out for you. I'm taking aggressive labz mkelite only 15mg a day in PCT for the IGF 1 increase. Sucks that your experiencing sides, does make you wonder what they put in that batch? I do know the stuff I'm taking increased my appetite, but don't have the tingling in the hands like I had on medfitrx Kong, from the MK.

 

[Brain5ick]

Damn bro, sorry to hear about your bad experience, that always sucks. If you’re getting chest pains and swollen hands I’d go in just to be safe, but that’s just me. Keep us updated man! Hope all stays well.

 

[TheBigBrodie]

Oh wow, very sorry your going through all of this I hope you get better. sounds like you have some serious fluid retention going on which might be causing your bp to elevate. Overall....no telling what they put in those pills.

 

[Old Witch]

The chest pains were very short lived. That swelling in the hands was something else though.

And yeah, I am very confused as to whether it's old DMZ with Superdrol in it or if it's my age vs last time I used it, or the fact that I'm fatter than I was last time. I mean, I didn't gain a single pound on this stuff, but I swelled up for sure. It could also be salt intake, but I doubt it. My sodium intake is rather high. But not that high according to the usda for a diet of 3500 calories or more.

 

[Old Witch]

Swelling has gone down, I can clench a fist without my hand turning white again.

Also, before the swelling started, other liver related side effects went away for a day or two, hunger came back. Half the month I could barely put the food down, half the month I could barely stop self from eating whole pizzas.

And I still say this is mild compared to other stuff. Dianabol and anadrol I'd be moon faced swollen in just a couple of doses.

I also can't exclude the DHEA from having an effect on that. I am going to do some experimenting to see if it's just the DMZ pills that are doing this.

 

[Borashi]

Good to hear, glad it wasn't something more serious like the ol kidneys. That is what would scare me the most about fluid retention. I bet it was related to sodium intake as you've already surmised.

 

[Old Witch]

Well, I didn't take the DMZ today. Also didn't take the ar1macare I was taking with it. Got a pretty bad headache out of nowhere. Definitely a blood pressure headache. Drinking a pint of water made it go away... I'm debating running down to the college with one of these capsules and finding out what's in it.

And hell, maybe I'm actually dehydrated?

 

[Mzakif]

That’s too bad hope you get better soon

 

[Old Witch]

Oh wow, very sorry your going through all of this I hope you get better. sounds like you have some serious fluid retention going on which might be causing your bp to elevate. Overall....no telling what they put in those pills.

That's what I've been thinking since last night. Seems like water weight. But... Subcutaneous? DMZ should keep that away for sure. Wondering if maybe all I need are water pills or a diuretic. Diazide possibly even...

 

[Bigmatt57]

Dang man I hope ur all good, making me rethink my dmz alpha-1 cycle

 

[Renew1]

That's what I've been thinking since last night. Seems like water weight. But... Subcutaneous? DMZ should keep that away for sure. Wondering if maybe all I need are water pills or a diuretic. Diazide possibly even...

Hey bro, are you urinating a pretty normal amount? Just try to make sure your kidneys seem ok before running diuretics. They can be really hard on the kidneys.

 

[Old Witch]

Dang man I hope ur all good, making me rethink my dmz alpha-1 cycle

Put it this way, I'm still trying to rationalize finishing the bottle. I'd rather get my gains. I'm just afraid that if I feel like this now... And I let it go... I might be putting myself in more danger than a month long run of an oral ought to.

 

[Bigmatt57]

Are you having any anxiety?

 

[Old Witch]

Hey bro, are you urinating a pretty normal amount? Just try to make sure your kidneys seem ok before running diuretics. They can be really hard on the kidneys.

At this point I'm not even sure what normal is anymore. I was going all the time for awhile, then I started drinking less overall and it seemed less frequent than normal, urine went back yellow instead of clear. It's been clear for days again now, since I started trying to drink more again. I've had a half gallon of water so far since noon today, been urinating every hour or so.

 

[Old Witch]

Are you having any anxiety?

Every time I dose an oral steroid I have a 30 minute panic attack, just from doing the deed.

My anxiety went way up last night which was why I ended up writing this post.

 

[Renew1]

At this point I'm not even sure what normal is anymore. I was going all the time for awhile, then I started drinking less overall and it seemed less frequent than normal, urine went back yellow instead of clear. It's been clear for days again now, since I started trying to drink more again. I've had a half gallon of water so far since noon today, been urinating every hour or so.

Cool man.

 

[Old Witch]

So this is the main reason I joined this forum. I have experience but it was all in my early 20s and late teens. As my body has changed I knew using PEDs would affect me differently than before.

I have a feeling there is nothing wrong with this DMZ, and that it is just my body and habits that have changed for the worse, making it a poor choice for me at the moment.

 

[TMloc]

That is a good,honest, observation of your whole situation man.You see a lot of post sometimes which leaves one wondering if a lot of side effects reported are due to users negligence or inexperienced approach to peds,sarms etc. Glad things got better for you man. Yes us older users must always keep in mind no matter how we feel,look or think fact of the matter remains our bodys have a lot more miles than a 19-30 yr old...

 

[Old Witch]

Well, a lot of guys get a headache from blood pressure and go for the cialis right away. One: I don't have cialis right now. Two: I always thought this was a bad idea.

 

[TheBigBrodie]

That's what I've been thinking since last night. Seems like water weight. But... Subcutaneous? DMZ should keep that away for sure. Wondering if maybe all I need are water pills or a diuretic. Diazide possibly even...

yeah, In the past when my fluid retention was through the roof from Dbol or HGH I would use a small doses from a diuretics to give my body a small cleanse. I know first hand that if your having fluid retention that it WILL cause your blood pressure to spike rapidly.

 

[TheBigBrodie]

So this is the main reason I joined this forum. I have experience but it was all in my early 20s and late teens. As my body has changed I knew using PEDs would affect me differently than before.

I have a feeling there is nothing wrong with this DMZ, and that it is just my body and habits that have changed for the worse, making it a poor choice for me at the moment.

Bud, what is the product name? and company?

 

[TheBigBrodie]

Put it this way, I'm still trying to rationalize finishing the bottle. I'd rather get my gains. I'm just afraid that if I feel like this now... And I let it go... I might be putting myself in more danger than a month long run of an oral ought to.

Sorry don't mean to spam here but not a smart idea. jump off of that. its NOT worth risking your health for. trust me. get off of it go on a pct get your body back to normal and then try something more mild? maybe like epistane? Heck I could give you my source for 100% legit DMZ and you would never experience those sides. just a thought man.

 

[Old Witch]

I hate epistane. And nope, no pct, just taking a few days off and going right to the next compound. Gonna finish my anavar off and work on scoring a couple of vials of test c.

 

[Old Witch]

To be honest, spam away. Tell me in five posts how dumb I am, hahaha.

I just can't figure out why I'm retaining fluid so badly off this stuff. And likely I won't figure it out.

Like I said, it's going to be easy does it for me for awhile. Sticking to test and anavar for awhile. Possibly a small amount of EQ for the appetite. Less than half a dose. Maybe 100 a week.

 

[Borashi]

Vicious Labs has Geozine, and from AnabolicGuru's log that stuff is gtg. I bought 2 bottles of it, originally I wanted to run it in Jan. Now I'm thinking of running another Sarm cycle first of S-23 and Epiandro as the test base. I've been researching S-23 all weekend and I'm impressed with all that I've read on it.

 

[TheBigBrodie]

To be honest, spam away. Tell me in five posts how dumb I am, hahaha.

I just can't figure out why I'm retaining fluid so badly off this stuff. And likely I won't figure it out.

Like I said, it's going to be easy does it for me for awhile. Sticking to test and anavar for awhile. Possibly a small amount of EQ for the appetite. Less than half a dose. Maybe 100 a week.

No your not dumb lol. We all make mistakes especially when it comes to strong compounds. I have never personally retained water from dmz. Once again sounds like some crap in a pill that they have sold you.

 

[Renew1]

No your not dumb lol. We all make mistakes especially when it comes to strong compounds. I have never personally retained water from dmz. Once again sounds like some crap in a pill that they have sold you.

Yeah bro.
That's my best guess too.

 

[Old Witch]

Thanks fellas. I feel a little less stupid. But I'm doubling down on how dumb I can be and... Remember how I said test and var only? Yeah I just dosed some winstrol.

 

[Renew1]

Thanks fellas. I feel a little less stupid. But I'm doubling down on how dumb I can be and... Remember how I said test and var only? Yeah I just dosed some winstrol.

At least you put a disclaimer on it.
(Don't do what I do).
LOL

 

[Old Witch]

At least you put a disclaimer on it.
(Don't do what I do).
LOL

Dude, I put a disclaimer on mySELF.

 

[Old Witch]

I do feel a lot better, though. Headache should be gone by tomorrow. Guess I have something in my neck that's aggravating it too. Must've done too many chicken presses.


(That's the side lateral lift)

 

[TheBigBrodie]

Yeah bro.
That's my best guess too.

When it comes to his water weight it reminds me of going onto a high dose of dbol but yet the crappy feeling of superdrol. it could even be 100% raws for all we know.

 

[Old Witch]

For all I know I could be allergic to arimacare. I just took that since I took the winny and... Guess what's? My hands are swollen again and I stopped pissing.

 

[Old Witch]

Vicious Labs has Geozine, and from AnabolicGuru's log that stuff is gtg. I bought 2 bottles of it, originally I wanted to run it in Jan. Now I'm thinking of running another Sarm cycle first of S-23 and Epiandro as the test base. I've been researching S-23 all weekend and I'm impressed with all that I've read on it.

VLs stuff is all good to go. I knew that. I wanted to try Aggressive Labz simply out of novelty. It was cheap, and if good... Well sh1t, no reason not to use it.

 

[TheBigBrodie]

I do feel a lot better, though. Headache should be gone by tomorrow. Guess I have something in my neck that's aggravating it too. Must've done too many chicken presses.


(That's the side lateral lift)

Hey, one last thing before I hit the hay. consider taking some TUDCA & NAC the N-acetyl cysteine has some major plus effects in terms of helping your body out.

 

[TheBigBrodie]

For all I know I could be allergic to arimacare. I just took that since I took the winny and... Guess what's? My hands are swollen again and I stopped pissing.

that is very strange.....

 

[Old Witch]

that is very strange.....

I certainly thought so. It's kind of coming and going now, hoping it goes.

I'm actually pretty pissed off at myself. I used to just take orals solo, no support, no bases, nothing. No problem. This year I'm thinking I want to protect myself, considering I was going to run orals nonstop all year. So When the actual big bad methylated steroid gets thrown in I take arimacare and up my daily DHEA by double. Mistakes aplenty.

I think I might just see what happens if I take the DMZ I have by itself without anything. If it's real I should feel better, unless my liver is really suddenly just screwed in which case I'll swell up again. Or maybe I should just eat a bullet. Fxck.

 

[TheBigBrodie]

I certainly thought so. It's kind of coming and going now, hoping it goes.

I'm actually pretty pissed off at myself. I used to just take orals solo, no support, no bases, nothing. No problem. This year I'm thinking I want to protect myself, considering I was going to run orals nonstop all year. So When the actual big bad methylated steroid gets thrown in I take arimacare and up my daily DHEA by double. Mistakes aplenty.

I think I might just see what happens if I take the DMZ I have by itself without anything. If it's real I should feel better, unless my liver is really suddenly just screwed in which case I'll swell up again. Or maybe I should just eat a bullet. Fxck.

Its better to play it safe. protect yourself at all times. take TUDCA for your liver and some sort of on cycle support. your health comes first.

 

[Old Witch]

Its better to play it safe. protect yourself at all times. take TUDCA for your liver and some sort of on cycle support. your health comes first.

Yes, BUT, if it's the cycle support I am having a reaction to this will show that. There's a lot of ingredients in arimacare I don't take except for in that product. The fact that I pretty much reversed my recovery by taking it makes me wonder, "wassup with that?"

 

[TheBigBrodie]

Yes, BUT, if it's the cycle support I am having a reaction to this will show that. There's a lot of ingredients in arimacare I don't take except for in that product. The fact that I pretty much reversed my recovery by taking it makes me wonder, "wassup with that?"

Very valid point. I wonder what you could be allergic in that? There is a lot of ingredients.

 

[Old Witch]

So I just took one of the aggressive DMZ again, we will see what happens. I'm ready to find out.

 

[Borashi]

I like Narrow Labs latest on cycle support has 600 mg of tudca and a decent dose of Nac. Wolverine it's called... Probably best ingredient lineup I've ever found in an on cycle support supp.

 

[Borashi]

I've been taking Aggressive Labz MKelite with no issues. But who knows what we are taking? Maybe it's all bunk.

 

[Old Witch]

I don't think it's bunk cause it just kicked in and the fight or flight response is going hard. I could take on an army of cops right now.

So I'm going to the gym. Pretty sure it was mostly the DHEA, and I think I'm allergic to arimacare. I feel better than I did the whole rest of the cycle. Much more like my last experience.

That's what I get for listening to other people and using a base and cycle support.

 

[TheBigBrodie]

I don't think it's bunk cause it just kicked in and the fight or flight response is going hard. I could take on an army of cops right now.

So I'm going to the gym. Pretty sure it was mostly the DHEA, and I think I'm allergic to arimacare. I feel better than I did the whole rest of the cycle. Much more like my last experience.

That's what I get for listening to other people and using a base and cycle support.

Sweet! Keep us posted.

 

[Borashi]

To be completely honest. I enjoy the on cycle Aggression. I feel like it gives me a mental edge over my fellow Alpha males.

 

[BloodManor]

I don't think it's bunk cause it just kicked in and the fight or flight response is going hard. I could take on an army of cops right now.

So I'm going to the gym. Pretty sure it was mostly the DHEA, and I think I'm allergic to arimacare. I feel better than I did the whole rest of the cycle. Much more like my last experience.

That's what I get for listening to other people and using a base and cycle support.

People don’t think about how compounds effects everyone differently. Two people running the same cycle can have totally different effects.