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Advice on SNS X-gels

saggy321

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I've been out of the gym for about 10 weeks undertaking no exercise whatsoever. I have lost a lot of muscle and strength. However I resume training in a couple of weeks and was wondering whether I would benefit at all from supplementing with x-gels immediately upon resuming training or should I leave the x-gels until 3-4 weeks into the regime once my body has adapted and is responding to the training.

Thanks,

Saghir.
 
I would leave it until a month or two after getting back in the gym.
 
warbird01 said:
I would leave it until a month or two after getting back in the gym.
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Yes I would echo this. Maybe even a bit longer.
 
Thanks guys. Other than basics any other supp that would be useful at this stage? What about Agmatine?
 
saggy321 said:
I've been out of the gym for about 10 weeks undertaking no exercise whatsoever. I have lost a lot of muscle and strength. However I resume training in a couple of weeks and was wondering whether I would benefit at all from supplementing with x-gels immediately upon resuming training or should I leave the x-gels until 3-4 weeks into the regime once my body has adapted and is responding to the training.

Thanks,

Saghir.
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I'd get yourself back into the swing of things for 2-3 months and then start introducing supplements such as X-gels. ArA is a great supplement but I would hold off until your body adapts to getting back into serious weight training. A decent pre WO, the staples, and food are what you should focus on for the first 90 days.
 
saggy321 said:
Thanks guys. Other than basics any other supp that would be useful at this stage? What about Agmatine?
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Agmatine sulfate has been purported to have synergistic effects with ArA [as in X Gels].

Other things that might stack nicely from Serious Nutrition Solutions include TTA-500 [stock up on this, as it's a discontinued SKU], Leucine, PLCAR-500, and ALCAR-500.

I have some of each on hand for when I start running my X Gels! ;)
 
I have been running X-Gels as part of a bigger stack containing many of the other supplements mentioned above. I would recommend two things for you:

1. Give yourself a good 4-6 weeks of getting back in the gym lifting before starting X-Gels. You want to get your strength and stamina up as well as making sure all of your connective tissue is strong enough to support additional loads during your X-Gel cycle.

2. Pick up a good joint supplement such as Osteo-Sport and/or Cissus to use along with the X-Gels (just dose away from your X-Gels). Your joints will thank you for it.
 
UncleWade said:
Agmatine sulfate has been purported to have synergistic effects with ArA [as in X Gels].

Other things that might stack nicely from Serious Nutrition Solutions include TTA-500 [stock up on this, as it's a discontinued SKU], Leucine, PLCAR-500, and ALCAR-500.

I have some of each on hand for when I start running my X Gels! ;)
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How does Agmatine go with ArA? I've read GMS and LCLT, but haven't read about Agmatine and ArA.
 
blacklac said:
How does Agmatine go with ArA? I've read GMS and LCLT, but haven't read about Agmatine and ArA.
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I've been running an X-Gels log and use 1g Agmatine along with GMS and ALCAR and I am loving it! It's been a little over two weeks and it is really starting to produce results. You should try it - you won't be sorry!
 
Well, I have 2 bottles of ArA, tub of GMS, tub of ALCAR and Anavite for LCLT. I always have HemaVol on hand, so I do have some Agmatine. I was just curious how they work together. :)

Waiting to finish up my Anabeta+Erase+Endosurge stack though.
 
blacklac said:
Well, I have 2 bottles of ArA, tub of GMS, tub of ALCAR and Anavite for LCLT. I always have HemaVol on hand, so I do have some Agmatine. I was just curious how they work together. :)

Waiting to finish up my Anabeta+Erase+Endosurge stack though.
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Coop would be the one to turn to for the highly scientific answer regarding the synergy between ArA + agmatine sulfate.

Hemavol would be an incredible product to stack with X Gels, as it contains a solid dose of both GMS and agmatine - you can hardly ask for more than that. Throw it a carnitine salt [their Compete would be good for this, but I personally use ALCAR every day and as such would just use that] and you're more than set for some nice gains!
 
UncleWade said:
Coop would be the one to turn to for the highly scientific answer regarding the synergy between ArA + agmatine sulfate.

Hemavol would be an incredible product to stack with X Gels, as it contains a solid dose of both GMS and agmatine - you can hardly ask for more than that. Throw it a carnitine salt [their Compete would be good for this, but I personally use ALCAR every day and as such would just use that] and you're more than set for some nice gains!
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I think , if I am not mistaken he could go with:

PWO:

10 caps X-gels
2 scoops Hemavol
1g LCLT
1g ALCAR

So for 2g carnitine salts , 1g agmatine and enough ArA. I am just guessing but I myself would run it that way.
 
Celorza said:
I think , if I am not mistaken he could go with:

PWO:

10 caps X-gels
2 scoops Hemavol
1g LCLT
1g ALCAR

So for 2g carnitine salts , 1g agmatine and enough ArA. I am just guessing but I myself would run it that way.
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I will raise you 10 X-Gels and 1 TTA-500....and 1g of calcium.
 
Dewey99 said:
I will raise you 10 X-Gels and 1 TTA-500....and 1g of calcium.
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The gram of calcium is only required of he is having a high Zinc diet, if not its not needed to block it.
 
Celorza said:
The gram of calcium is only required of he is having a high Zinc diet, if not its not needed to block it.
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True, but it certainly doesn't hurt and there are lots of sources of zinc out there. Some people just won't give up their OT and other supps that contain extra zinc. For me the calcium is worthwhile with the 20 X-Gel dose. Certainly the cheapest piece of the stack!
 
Dewey99 said:
True, but it certainly doesn't hurt and there are lots of sources of zinc out there. Some people just won't give up their OT and other supps that contain extra zinc. For me the calcium is worthwhile with the 20 X-Gel dose. Certainly the cheapest piece of the stack!
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True, I am not on a multi , or powdered food or anything either so I just don't worry about it. I woulds say to add 3 scoops of GlycerGrow to that anyway...a bit more GMS wouldn't hurt.
 
Celorza said:
True, I am not on a multi , or powdered food or anything either so I just don't worry about it. I woulds say to add 3 scoops of GlycerGrow to that anyway...a bit more GMS wouldn't hurt.
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I'm doing exactly that and using Clout in lieu of Hemavol since it also has ALCAR.
 
Celorza said:
I think , if I am not mistaken he could go with:

PWO:

10 caps X-gels
2 scoops Hemavol
1g LCLT
1g ALCAR

So for 2g carnitine salts , 1g agmatine and enough ArA. I am just guessing but I myself would run it that way.
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That looks excellent to my eye.

Wade approved! :D

Dewey99 said:
I will raise you 10 X-Gels and 1 TTA-500....and 1g of calcium.
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This also has my blessing. :p

I am generally against vitamin C in a periworkout context, as per the teachings of Coop, but it makes sense in this context.

While not absolutely necessary unless he has several other zinc sources throughout his daily diet and/or supplement regimen, it's a cheap bit of insurance when combined with higher doses of X Gels, especially if he's taking a multi or consuming zinc-rich whole foods.
 
Dewey99 said:
I'm doing exactly that and using Clout in lieu of Hemavol since it also has ALCAR.
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Great minds must think alike, I've been doing the same thing when using X Gels.

Clout is one of the greatest all-in-one formulations available, IMHO.
 
UncleWade said:
Great minds must think alike, I've been doing the same thing when using X Gels.

Clout is one of the greatest all-in-one formulations available, IMHO.
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This was my first tub of Clout and I really dig it. That's not to say Hemavol isn't awesome too, but in this particular case Clout works better for me since I can get my GMS and Agmatine from other sources. I am burning through my Agmatine though lifting 5 times per week now. I need SNS to run a promo for one of those 100g tubs of Agmatine soon!
 
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