chocolatemilk
Well-known member
Looks like you already know how to dose the stuff 
Excited to see how this combo treats you...
Excited to see how this combo treats you...
Advice on FORMAstanzolol use.
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Sklander
Member
Great. Thanks for the confirmation, bud.
My weight fell just a little below 180 (178) in the past 4 days or so bc of first round of tests in schoool, etc., but I'm eating like a horse and hoping to get to 180 chiseled out of stone.
I will keep y'all updated on how the HCG and FORMA treat me.
My weight fell just a little below 180 (178) in the past 4 days or so bc of first round of tests in schoool, etc., but I'm eating like a horse and hoping to get to 180 chiseled out of stone.
I will keep y'all updated on how the HCG and FORMA treat me.
Sklander
Member
Hey, fellow like-minded individuals.
Starting to get comments again and kinda annoyed by it... These people think we do this for them and it pisses me off. I do this bc I want to see what my body is capable of... this is fun to me... i understand the risks... leave me alone, or, if you want to know something, ask me... DON"T CONDEMN MY DECISION BASED ON NO KNOWLEDGE OF YOUR OWN.
End rant. Sorry.
Day 3 of FORMA and HCGenerate. 100% feel added muscular density, fullness, hardness, vascularity, energy, etc... I am running FORMA at 7-8 pumps twice a day split am and pm. HCGenerate is run at 5 pills per day as per the instructions on the bottle. I am sitting at 176 (somehow? lol) but cut up nice.
Did chest work out yesterday and was able to get 5x5 on flat bench with 80lb dumbbells. Strength is coming back from the Epi cycle... like over night... pretty awesome **** I am running atm.
I will tell you, I am feeling no "rebound" effect as of yet and am feeling that this PCT layout is looking PERFECT (Thanks CM!!!). I am going to run the bottle of HCGenerate and then go natty for 2-3 weeks then onto the HELLADROL@@@!!! Absolutely can't wait for the HELLA cycle, but am currently really enjoying the FORMA + HCG - I had no idea this combo on its own could be so powerful.
My work outs are standard push/pull/legs in a day on day off scheme... I always start with 20-25 min. stretching, core work (planks) and more stretching and end up at the gym for a good 90 minutes on average.
Should these compounds dry me out at all? as I can feel the shoulder from yesterday a little "stiff", but full ROM is there and its actually a little stronger on the chest reps than the right (really really werid - almost had to have surgery on the left but its strong as a rock now). I am going to up fishoil to 12g's a day and eat like an animal.
Super interested in OSTA for tendon development...
I meant this to be a quick update, but there's been a lot on my mind, apparently.
I need to learn how to take pics... gonna get on that, gentlemen.
Starting to get comments again and kinda annoyed by it... These people think we do this for them and it pisses me off. I do this bc I want to see what my body is capable of... this is fun to me... i understand the risks... leave me alone, or, if you want to know something, ask me... DON"T CONDEMN MY DECISION BASED ON NO KNOWLEDGE OF YOUR OWN.
End rant. Sorry.
Day 3 of FORMA and HCGenerate. 100% feel added muscular density, fullness, hardness, vascularity, energy, etc... I am running FORMA at 7-8 pumps twice a day split am and pm. HCGenerate is run at 5 pills per day as per the instructions on the bottle. I am sitting at 176 (somehow? lol) but cut up nice.
Did chest work out yesterday and was able to get 5x5 on flat bench with 80lb dumbbells. Strength is coming back from the Epi cycle... like over night... pretty awesome **** I am running atm.
I will tell you, I am feeling no "rebound" effect as of yet and am feeling that this PCT layout is looking PERFECT (Thanks CM!!!). I am going to run the bottle of HCGenerate and then go natty for 2-3 weeks then onto the HELLADROL@@@!!! Absolutely can't wait for the HELLA cycle, but am currently really enjoying the FORMA + HCG - I had no idea this combo on its own could be so powerful.
My work outs are standard push/pull/legs in a day on day off scheme... I always start with 20-25 min. stretching, core work (planks) and more stretching and end up at the gym for a good 90 minutes on average.
Should these compounds dry me out at all? as I can feel the shoulder from yesterday a little "stiff", but full ROM is there and its actually a little stronger on the chest reps than the right (really really werid - almost had to have surgery on the left but its strong as a rock now). I am going to up fishoil to 12g's a day and eat like an animal.
Super interested in OSTA for tendon development...
I meant this to be a quick update, but there's been a lot on my mind, apparently.
I need to learn how to take pics... gonna get on that, gentlemen.
Legacyfighter
Active member
sklander, glad to see the forma is treating you well so far. I'm planning on running it in a few weeks, so i'm really interested to see how this develops. Keep up the hard work man.
Sklander
Member
Day 27 of the FORMA + HCGenerate combo. About to wrap it up, gentlemen.
I have maintained strength in the gym and in some areas have improved - especially noticeable on long mountain biking rides where endurance in the legs is incredibly important. Flat dumbbell bench has been consistent at being able to do 5x5 with 80lb'ers... I am current 175, not too shabby if you ask me.
I had absolutely zero sides from the combination and was able to get down to ROCK SOLID 175lbs... I think I maybe gained 1-2lbs of LBM, but lost about 5lbs of fat. As soon as the bottle of HCG is gone (maybe got two days left) gonna go all natty for about 3 weeks then jump on the HELLA!!! Can't wait, bros!!! CAN"T WIAT!!!!
I am super happy with the protocol that CM outlined and have stuck to it to a T. My body feels extremely stable and consistent. No trouble sleeping or problems with lethargy - school has been nuts, so haven't been able to eat like I want to, but have managed quite well.
A few quick questions:
Jumping off the FORMA+HCG... will this cause any shutdown? I have clomid and torem on hand, and can dose them in a small amount if this would be beneficial? I also have UNLEASHED and dermacine, but I want to save those for the end of the Hella cycle coming soon.
So, in about three weeks I am going be ready for the Hella cycle... planning on 100 all the way through, but am kinda thinkin of doing 75 for the first two weeks to see how my body reacts to all these anabolics.
Things I have on hand for the cycle:
1 bottle helladrol 75/75/100/100/100/100
2 bottles derm
2 jugs cycle support
PCT:
1 bottle torem - is there a SERM better suited for hella, or will this do?
1 bottle FORMA
1 bottle HCGenerate
1 pack Unleashed/PCT
**DEFINITELY still considering the OSTAsarm also... this will be as funds permit, though... Thanks for the help again, guys... Looking forward to comments, suggestions and guidance.
I have maintained strength in the gym and in some areas have improved - especially noticeable on long mountain biking rides where endurance in the legs is incredibly important. Flat dumbbell bench has been consistent at being able to do 5x5 with 80lb'ers... I am current 175, not too shabby if you ask me.
I had absolutely zero sides from the combination and was able to get down to ROCK SOLID 175lbs... I think I maybe gained 1-2lbs of LBM, but lost about 5lbs of fat. As soon as the bottle of HCG is gone (maybe got two days left) gonna go all natty for about 3 weeks then jump on the HELLA!!! Can't wait, bros!!! CAN"T WIAT!!!!
I am super happy with the protocol that CM outlined and have stuck to it to a T. My body feels extremely stable and consistent. No trouble sleeping or problems with lethargy - school has been nuts, so haven't been able to eat like I want to, but have managed quite well.
A few quick questions:
Jumping off the FORMA+HCG... will this cause any shutdown? I have clomid and torem on hand, and can dose them in a small amount if this would be beneficial? I also have UNLEASHED and dermacine, but I want to save those for the end of the Hella cycle coming soon.
So, in about three weeks I am going be ready for the Hella cycle... planning on 100 all the way through, but am kinda thinkin of doing 75 for the first two weeks to see how my body reacts to all these anabolics.
Things I have on hand for the cycle:
1 bottle helladrol 75/75/100/100/100/100
2 bottles derm
2 jugs cycle support
PCT:
1 bottle torem - is there a SERM better suited for hella, or will this do?
1 bottle FORMA
1 bottle HCGenerate
1 pack Unleashed/PCT
**DEFINITELY still considering the OSTAsarm also... this will be as funds permit, though... Thanks for the help again, guys... Looking forward to comments, suggestions and guidance.
chocolatemilk
Well-known member
Great sh*t bro... glad you liked everything. The forma-stanzol + hcgenerate combo is really good for sustaining cycle gains by keeping you anabolic. And it is amazing for shredding some fat thanks to the form-stanzol.
I know Halodrol gets down played alot on anabolicminds bro but it is still a methyl steroid and very underrated by people on here. You will not see anyone on other boards recommending 100mg all the way through. You will see results with 50mg especially at your weight, height, and bf%. You will get better results with 75mg. At 100mg it is pushing it if you are running that all the way through. I mean last couple weeks at 100 will do ya some good but you will be fine with 50-75 for the rest of the time trust me.
You should stack the Dermacrine with the Helladrol bro. Don't run it in PCT. Keep up the good work and let us know how the cycle goes.
I know Halodrol gets down played alot on anabolicminds bro but it is still a methyl steroid and very underrated by people on here. You will not see anyone on other boards recommending 100mg all the way through. You will see results with 50mg especially at your weight, height, and bf%. You will get better results with 75mg. At 100mg it is pushing it if you are running that all the way through. I mean last couple weeks at 100 will do ya some good but you will be fine with 50-75 for the rest of the time trust me.
You should stack the Dermacrine with the Helladrol bro. Don't run it in PCT. Keep up the good work and let us know how the cycle goes.
Sklander
Member
Okay, once again, mad thanks for looking out.
So, something like 50/50/75/75/75/100 ? Something like that seems suitable... Esp. stacked with the Dermacrine..
What do you think about a "best" SERM for Halodrol? Anything in particular stand out? I have had great results from torem, but if ther is a better suited SERM for this methyl, ie. clomi or nolva, I am down to invest.
What do you think about doing FORMA and HCG in PCT?
Any experience with the OSTAsarms, bro? Think it is worth the hype and ****? I have read a TON and still can't really decide... ****... 140 buks... damn, bro lol thats a lot.
Anyway, def. looking forward to this cycle as I feel I have had mad discipline with maintaining an overall good diet, exercising my heart and muscles consistently and have worked through some injuries and am really feeling healthy healthy for the first time in many many months.. haha..
Again, thanks for the help, buddy. And KILL IT BRO!#@$@
So, something like 50/50/75/75/75/100 ? Something like that seems suitable... Esp. stacked with the Dermacrine..
What do you think about a "best" SERM for Halodrol? Anything in particular stand out? I have had great results from torem, but if ther is a better suited SERM for this methyl, ie. clomi or nolva, I am down to invest.
What do you think about doing FORMA and HCG in PCT?
Any experience with the OSTAsarms, bro? Think it is worth the hype and ****? I have read a TON and still can't really decide... ****... 140 buks... damn, bro lol thats a lot.
Anyway, def. looking forward to this cycle as I feel I have had mad discipline with maintaining an overall good diet, exercising my heart and muscles consistently and have worked through some injuries and am really feeling healthy healthy for the first time in many many months.. haha..
Again, thanks for the help, buddy. And KILL IT BRO!#@$@
Sklander
Member
Day 29 - Just popped the last two HCGenerate pills.
Gonna keep it natty for a few weeks and jump on the hella, brothas. CAN'T WAIT TO GET ON THE HELLA!!!
Let me know about what you think of my questions above. Eager to assure I have all support supps on hand asap.
Best SERM for hella?
HCGenerate in PCT?
Where does Reduce XT fit into PCT?
OstaSarm in PCT? Have we figured out its most valuable dosing regiment?
Gonna keep it natty for a few weeks and jump on the hella, brothas. CAN'T WAIT TO GET ON THE HELLA!!!
Let me know about what you think of my questions above. Eager to assure I have all support supps on hand asap.
Best SERM for hella?
HCGenerate in PCT?
Where does Reduce XT fit into PCT?
OstaSarm in PCT? Have we figured out its most valuable dosing regiment?
RickRock13
Well-known member
Looks like you'll be having some fun running Helladrol.
If you like Torem for your SERM then you can use that. I don't think it will matter a lot on which SERM you go with as long as you have one. I prefer Clomid myself but that's me.
HCGenerate is great in PCT so if you have it then I would use it. I've used it in a couple PCTs now and I love the stuff. A good natty test booster at least if you can't use the HCGenerate.
Ostarine dosing in PCT still has a lot of different answers on what it should be. From what I've read most people don't find much more benefit at higher doses, and at around 100 bucks or more a bottle you want to get the most out of it you can. I am running it 25mg first week, and 12.5 after that for my PCT right now, which will allow me to use it in 3-4 PCT cycles at that rate.
If you like Torem for your SERM then you can use that. I don't think it will matter a lot on which SERM you go with as long as you have one. I prefer Clomid myself but that's me.
HCGenerate is great in PCT so if you have it then I would use it. I've used it in a couple PCTs now and I love the stuff. A good natty test booster at least if you can't use the HCGenerate.
Ostarine dosing in PCT still has a lot of different answers on what it should be. From what I've read most people don't find much more benefit at higher doses, and at around 100 bucks or more a bottle you want to get the most out of it you can. I am running it 25mg first week, and 12.5 after that for my PCT right now, which will allow me to use it in 3-4 PCT cycles at that rate.
Spawnamus
New member
I did four weeks at 10 pumps twice a day, straight into helladrol. I was stacking the forma with oxy elite. The forma and oxy was a great combo, I lost over 10 pounds, now the hella is putting weight back on me but my bodyfat is staying the same. Really some pretty awesome compounds.
Sklander
Member
Okay, Spawn, awesome info. Thanks, bud...
I am gonna start the hdrol cycle in two weeks. What are you running it at? I ordered the torem and only need the HCG to get back into stock and I'll have EVERYTHING needed.
I want to run it 50/75/75/100/100/100 - def subject to change with how i feel. I will be running 5 pumps of derm a day throughout the cycle also. i am currently 175 and am looking to come out of this at 190.
I been drinking a fair amount *(sxsw in austin will **** you up, boy.. wow weee)*- this is why i want to give it two weeks before i start - wanna make sure no alcohol is in my body, so a good two weeks off then 10 more off should do me some good...
Smart to start preloading with cycle support?
I am gonna invest in the ostasarms for pct, as running it like RR says makes it good to go for 3-4 pct's. That's decent bang for buck and i like hitting PR's in pct...
I'll keep y'all updated and thanks in advance for any additional info y'all provide.
I am gonna start the hdrol cycle in two weeks. What are you running it at? I ordered the torem and only need the HCG to get back into stock and I'll have EVERYTHING needed.
I want to run it 50/75/75/100/100/100 - def subject to change with how i feel. I will be running 5 pumps of derm a day throughout the cycle also. i am currently 175 and am looking to come out of this at 190.
I been drinking a fair amount *(sxsw in austin will **** you up, boy.. wow weee)*- this is why i want to give it two weeks before i start - wanna make sure no alcohol is in my body, so a good two weeks off then 10 more off should do me some good...
Smart to start preloading with cycle support?
I am gonna invest in the ostasarms for pct, as running it like RR says makes it good to go for 3-4 pct's. That's decent bang for buck and i like hitting PR's in pct...
I'll keep y'all updated and thanks in advance for any additional info y'all provide.
BarbellBeast
Well-known member
Okay, Spawn, awesome info. Thanks, bud...
I am gonna start the hdrol cycle in two weeks. What are you running it at? I ordered the torem and only need the HCG to get back into stock and I'll have EVERYTHING needed.
I want to run it 50/75/75/100/100/100 - def subject to change with how i feel. I will be running 5 pumps of derm a day throughout the cycle also. i am currently 175 and am looking to come out of this at 190.
I been drinking a fair amount *(sxsw in austin will **** you up, boy.. wow weee)*- this is why i want to give it two weeks before i start - wanna make sure no alcohol is in my body, so a good two weeks off then 10 more off should do me some good...
Smart to start preloading with cycle support?
I am gonna invest in the ostasarms for pct, as running it like RR says makes it good to go for 3-4 pct's. That's decent bang for buck and i like hitting PR's in pct...
I'll keep y'all updated and thanks in advance for any additional info y'all provide.
Dosing looks good. You can pre load supports if you'd like. You should def put on some size with this cycle
Sklander
Member
Thanks, guys. Good to know that I am getting a really solid grasp on how to plan and run things with compounds. Safety and time are the keys, I've found.
Really looking forward to putting on some serious size with the hdrol. Sitting at 175 and haven't lifted in a week... sxsw partying and biking took care of all physical activity I'd ever need... Looking to getting back into it tomorrow.
Thanks again, guys, for the help and guidance.
Oh yeah... KILL IT@!!@#!$@
Really looking forward to putting on some serious size with the hdrol. Sitting at 175 and haven't lifted in a week... sxsw partying and biking took care of all physical activity I'd ever need... Looking to getting back into it tomorrow.
Thanks again, guys, for the help and guidance.
Oh yeah... KILL IT@!!@#!$@
Sklander
Member
Day 8 of 100% natty. Weighed in at 174... strength is STILL up, though..
80lb dumbells 5x5 then did 50's on incline SLOW to failure. I'm starting to get obsessed with being as strong as possible at my natural weight... one could argue, though, there is no such thing as natural limiting weight...
I am gonna do the hella 50/75//75/100/100/100 with full support and Dermacrine through out - torem for pct with FORMA and prob HCG and maybe UNLEASHED/PCT COMBO. Looking to get to that mark of 190 and looking vicious.
Currently, I am taking creatine, fish oil (~5gm's) and vit. e. for all my supps. Everything else I'm achieving through greens. Lots of spinach shakes that end up having all kinds of things in them. The creatine is helping maintain strength, I guess, but I can see the bloat already... hate this stuff. Def. not running while on hella.
Thnkin bout another week or so and I'll start it
support supps:
Torem 120day1/100day2and3/70day4567/50/50/50(if needed, my nuts literally hurt after three weeks with torem. That's when it is time to stop.
AI cycle support (2 scoops daily)
dermacrine topical (4 pumps 2x daily)
120-160mg CoQ10
Extra Hawthorne - i know it is in AI CS... i like my kidneys
4L water per day bare minimum
NO ALCOHOL - gonna be tough
Anyway, thanks again for the help y'all have provided thus far. I have been off anablics and have maintained incredible strength and stilll have the lines of being quite cut (thanks FORMA). I feel I'm big in the mirror now... can't IMAGINE when the hella kicks in. WOWOWOWOW
80lb dumbells 5x5 then did 50's on incline SLOW to failure. I'm starting to get obsessed with being as strong as possible at my natural weight... one could argue, though, there is no such thing as natural limiting weight...
I am gonna do the hella 50/75//75/100/100/100 with full support and Dermacrine through out - torem for pct with FORMA and prob HCG and maybe UNLEASHED/PCT COMBO. Looking to get to that mark of 190 and looking vicious.
Currently, I am taking creatine, fish oil (~5gm's) and vit. e. for all my supps. Everything else I'm achieving through greens. Lots of spinach shakes that end up having all kinds of things in them. The creatine is helping maintain strength, I guess, but I can see the bloat already... hate this stuff. Def. not running while on hella.
Thnkin bout another week or so and I'll start it
support supps:
Torem 120day1/100day2and3/70day4567/50/50/50(if needed, my nuts literally hurt after three weeks with torem. That's when it is time to stop.
AI cycle support (2 scoops daily)
dermacrine topical (4 pumps 2x daily)
120-160mg CoQ10
Extra Hawthorne - i know it is in AI CS... i like my kidneys
4L water per day bare minimum
NO ALCOHOL - gonna be tough
Anyway, thanks again for the help y'all have provided thus far. I have been off anablics and have maintained incredible strength and stilll have the lines of being quite cut (thanks FORMA). I feel I'm big in the mirror now... can't IMAGINE when the hella kicks in. WOWOWOWOW
BarbellBeast
Well-known member
Nice, everything looks good. When you say HCG for PCT I hope you're talking about HCGenerate correct?
RickRock13
Well-known member
Everything looks good man. Should be nice!
Sklander
Member
Yes, HCGenerate... still sold out at mrsupps, though. **** is wonderful, it doesn't surprise me. I have over 8 weeks to get it, though, so I'm not too worried.
Cycle:
1 bottle Helladrol
2 bottles Dermacrine
2 tubs cycle support
500mL fish oil on hand (10g's a day)
CoQ10
PCT:
Torem
HCGenerate
FORMA stanz
Reduce XT
Unleashed/PCT combo
If funds permit OstaSARM's MK2866 will be ordered and run at 12.5mg or so... Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.
BarbellBeast
Well-known member
HCGen is sold at NTBM buddy. I'm sure you just had em mixed up.
Adding Osta is a good thing, myself and many others have had great results with it! Highly recommend if funds allow.
Adding Osta is a good thing, myself and many others have had great results with it! Highly recommend if funds allow.
RickRock13
Well-known member
Everything looks pretty good, and I would recommend the Ostarine if you are able...awesome stuff