AAS while living with your girlfriend

I told the wife upfront about it, I went on testim at first and she did not understand that I had to protect her from transfer. Now I am on test e self inject and she understands the improvements it made in health issues. She got involved and is working to clean up my diet and adjust my meals. We just sat down and talked about running a cycle, she said no, first lets change your diet and then go for it. Then she picks up my rx and comes home with a box of 100 pins, and tells me she wants more time to think about it. lol....They only hear the news about how bad steroids are and nothing else.

That's the truth and I'm hoping that now I'm on DR pescribed TRT that my wife will also get to see the benefits and get around the stigma. I have a decent chance now DR prescribed but I can't overload her with information, she will just turn off but left at her own pace I stand a cjhance. I've got a copy os Bigger Stronger Faster casually sitting around the house. In time :) anyway as I've already explained I have chosen the selfish route because I know ehats best and I'm rational and she's not :)

Man is there gonna be a shiit storm around here when I get busted. I have to say I am making ground. Got her interested and using Clen have told her that I'm using Proviron along with my dr prescribed Androderm patches
 
I know all about the info overload, it took a long time for my wife to accept the trt. Once she saw the benefits for herself, it helped a whole lot. It will be a slow process she will understand just give her time. I always ask doc for a copy of my labs to review for myself. One day I was going over my labs and the wife asked me what are you doing. I explained that I following my trt, she could see the before and after numbers. She could see for herself the numbers were improving, but she asked about liver toxic because all of the issues she heard about.
 
I know all about the info overload, it took a long time for my wife to accept the trt. Once she saw the benefits for herself, it helped a whole lot. It will be a slow process she will understand just give her time. I always ask doc for a copy of my labs to review for myself. One day I was going over my labs and the wife asked me what are you doing. I explained that I following my trt, she could see the before and after numbers. She could see for herself the numbers were improving, but she asked about liver toxic because all of the issues she heard about.

That's a great idea. I will definitely do the same, slow and steady wins this game
 
so i talked to her about it today. it didnt go well lol. she threatened to leave me if i ever did "roids". said she had guy friends who did it and had "roid rage" and didnt like it. i know some of yall would say the girl isnt the one if she isnt ok with aas use however this girl is the one for me. im willing to give it up to make it last. oh well *sigh*
 
so i talked to her about it today. it didnt go well lol. she threatened to leave me if i ever did "roids". said she had guy friends who did it and had "roid rage" and didnt like it. i know some of yall would say the girl isnt the one if she isnt ok with aas use however this girl is the one for me. im willing to give it up to make it last. oh well *sigh*

Well you have your answer then man. The right person for you will make you willing to sacrifice anything that is important to you. I think you'll find that you won't have to sacrifice everything though.

Have you went with the OTC PH talk?
 
Good luck man. If she had caught u doing it without telling her, she prob would have left your ass.
 
Maybe it's my personal history with this exact same situation, or maybe im just in a really pissed off mood, but it's irritating to see you taking this submissive role about the roids. I always see steroids as something to use when you are 100% committed to the craft of your training. If you see her knee-jerk reaction as the end-all stumbling block to your taking the step of AAS then who knows what other obstacles you can come up with to derail your progress.

I'm not trying to make this sound as harsh as it is, but when I think of someone fulfilling their potential with AAS I envision a balls-to-the-wall, no prisoners attitude.

BTW, I had a similar problem with my ex and when she had come to the conclusion I wouldn't change my mind and stop i got her to practice on oranges (they work best) and then start shooting me.

She was an evil whore-knave though and wouldn't have been worth giving roids up for. So if you're happy with how things are for you and that's whats worth more then I wish you all the best there.
 
Maybe it's my personal history with this exact same situation, or maybe im just in a really pissed off mood, but it's irritating to see you taking this submissive role about the roids. I always see steroids as something to use when you are 100% committed to the craft of your training. If you see her knee-jerk reaction as the end-all stumbling block to your taking the step of AAS then who knows what other obstacles you can come up with to derail your progress.

I'm not trying to make this sound as harsh as it is, but when I think of someone fulfilling their potential with AAS I envision a balls-to-the-wall, no prisoners attitude.

BTW, I had a similar problem with my ex and when she had come to the conclusion I wouldn't change my mind and stop i got her to practice on oranges (they work best) and then start shooting me.

She was an evil whore-knave though and wouldn't have been worth giving roids up for. So if you're happy with how things are for you and that's whats worth more then I wish you all the best there.

A bit harsh i have to say!!!!!

Unfortunately this is not going to sound a lot better, I'm gonna have to agree with the above.. I didnt get to the point of running this my 1st inj cycle on a whim.. The cycle in itself took 6 months of research and preperation, a dedicated thread such as this and many a sleepless night.

My passion and dedication to this sport is at such a level i would not be denied at the very least the opportunity to run one cycle. Am selfish absofuuckkinglutlely, its a selfish sport. For me it wasnt a question if i would run the cycle it was a question if whether i could tell the wife and run the cycle. I decided that that would not be possible as you must have really known also, clearly you have thought long and hard and you must have known this would be the outcome.

Its really unfortunate that you have denied yourself this opportunity. I only hope that you dont give up on the idea. Keep letting her know the sacrifice you have made and keep educating her, if she loves you she will eventually relent and cave in, even if its a one time deal.

I hate the stigma associated with steroids it pissses me off that i have been forcced to act so selfishlly and deceitfully.

I think if i had been denied this opportunity to take my passion to the next level it would have left a resentment that would have been worse than the pending shiit storm i have created for myself.

In the mean time i continue to make progress in my training and my relationship and live with the guilt, an acceptable price IMO.

Sorry for the rant, i truly wish you all the best
 
If you have found the one, good for you. It seems that in her past that she has seen roid issues that has put things in a negative light. I would try to educate her and yourself about what you want to do. I agree with edwitt, you have to be yourself and respect her at the same time.
 
i still have not given up the idea. it will always be there.

yes she experienced bad exp with it from people who were not educated and irresponsible giving test a bad name.
 
i still have not given up the idea. it will always be there.

yes she experienced bad exp with it from people who were not educated and irresponsible giving test a bad name.

Theres ur answer.... Sounds like its still deeply imbedded in ur mind... Your not gonna be happy until you do this....

If she is the one ur gonna end up resnting her down the line for making you sacrifice this.

So assuming she is indeed the girl for you dont give up hope and dont let her forget that its never far from your mind and your doing this out of respect for her wishes.

Keep chipping away mate :)
 
so i talked to her about it today. it didnt go well lol. she threatened to leave me if i ever did "roids". said she had guy friends who did it and had "roid rage" and didnt like it. i know some of yall would say the girl isnt the one if she isnt ok with aas use however this girl is the one for me. im willing to give it up to make it last. oh well *sigh*

If she had guy "friends" that did it that could mean she is attracted to Juiced Gorillas and might not be happy with your new leaner steroid-free look dude.
 
If you were not a 'supplements man', surely she will find out that you start taking lots of pills recently.
For me I have just too many bottles; I don't think common people can really pick up steriod among all those legal non-hormonal herbal blah blah. And there are so many pills and caps in my daily medication box that people might think i am seriously ill or what. It would take too long to explain what's the use of each one.

Anyway, no matter you tell her or not, I think in the end she will know that you are on something if you suddenly become very big, get short temper, many acne, and soft c**k :P


Reminds me of ronnie coleman on youtube with a tackle box full of pills... and he's like dis ones for my prostate! Lol
 
Educate her on it - this is the best method, as I have found from years of personal experience. My wife (along with everyone else not involved in medical research or the bodybuilding industry) believed that steroids referred to only one product or pill and that they would send you into a murderous rage before killing you do to liver and kidney failure all over night! People don't even understand 'steroids' refers to an entire collection of anabolics, and many of them have this misconception that you can take steroids and wake up looking like a magazine cover of FLEX, WITHOUT lifting weights!

Anyway... long story short, my wife went from an uneducated steroid fearing media infected propagandized individual, to someone who regularly tries to find room in the budget to purchase another cycle for me, and is always supporting my quest to become/remain very muscular.

Initially, once any audience, your girlfriend in this situation, becomes aware that steroids are no more than a sub set of pharmaceuticals used to improve health, muscle wasting conditions, expedite healing and recovery, over come and cure hormone deficiencies which leads to greatly improved quality of life, and so on and so forth with an almost limitless assortment of benefits in the medical community, she/they will begin to become receptive. They are given to aids patients and children burn victims, all the way to aging men and women who wish to regain their once enjoyed vitality and value of life... all of this merely translates into being an effective collective of drugs, like anything else, that has been employed by learned athletes who wish to recover faster and be more productive in their ambition. The tragedy isn't the fact thousands/millions of men (and women) are using AAS, but due to the heavily politicized and skewed laws put into effect by an ignorant and largely unconcerned congress who cast their votes as a mere "look what I did" gesture to get pats on the back from their constituents, grown law abiding and well versed experienced athletes are forced to seek out these products often resulting in under ground lab patronage with no quality or safety measures put into place.

There is an unstoppable inner desire that is a crucial component of the human condition that drives us with immeasurably intensity to achieve and succeed - based on the merit of our own definition, engaged in our own individual pursuits. The US Government cast the science of safety and efficacy aside, and outlawed these substances, forever perpetuating a horrid and unrecoverable bad reputation affixed to the taboo subject of steroids.

You girlfriend will come around when she realizes you are passionate about your endeavor, and have invested years into the research and are personally convinced and sincerely attest to her that your health and demeanor will not be eroded in light of your calculated and cautionary controlled usage of these additives.
 
Educate her on it - this is the best method, as I have found from years of personal experience. My wife (along with everyone else not involved in medical research or the bodybuilding industry) believed that steroids referred to only one product or pill and that they would send you into a murderous rage before killing you do to liver and kidney failure all over night! People don't even understand 'steroids' refers to an entire collection of anabolics, and many of them have this misconception that you can take steroids and wake up looking like a magazine cover of FLEX, WITHOUT lifting weights!

Anyway... long story short, my wife went from an uneducated steroid fearing media infected propagandized individual, to someone who regularly tries to find room in the budget to purchase another cycle for me, and is always supporting my quest to become/remain very muscular.

Initially, once any audience, your girlfriend in this situation, becomes aware that steroids are no more than a sub set of pharmaceuticals used to improve health, muscle wasting conditions, expedite healing and recovery, over come and cure hormone deficiencies which leads to greatly improved quality of life, and so on and so forth with an almost limitless assortment of benefits in the medical community, she/they will begin to become receptive. They are given to aids patients and children burn victims, all the way to aging men and women who wish to regain their once enjoyed vitality and value of life... all of this merely translates into being an effective collective of drugs, like anything else, that has been employed by learned athletes who wish to recover faster and be more productive in their ambition. The tragedy isn't the fact thousands/millions of men (and women) are using AAS, but due to the heavily politicized and skewed laws put into effect by an ignorant and largely unconcerned congress who cast their votes as a mere "look what I did" gesture to get pats on the back from their constituents, grown law abiding and well versed experienced athletes are forced to seek out these products often resulting in under ground lab patronage with no quality or safety measures put into place.

There is an unstoppable inner desire that is a crucial component of the human condition that drives us with immeasurably intensity to achieve and succeed - be the merit of our own definition while engaged in our own individual pursuits. The US Government cast the science of safety and efficacy aside, and outlawed these substances, forever perpetuating a horrid and unrecoverable bad reputation affixed to the taboo subject of steroids.

You girlfriend will come around when she realized you are passionate about your endeavor, and have invested years into the research and are personally convinced and sincerely attest to her that your health and demeanor will not be eroded in light of your calculated and cautionary controlled usage of these additives.

Well said. Now can you talk to my wife
 
Its these ****ing secrets that make me dread relationships. I will go out with friends and when I'm there the women just come to us and one will always completely throw themselves at me. I never go for it and my buddies wonder why. I say BC its not my style Haha, who doesnt like no attachment poosy?! I have to live an honest life style BC I'm a recovered alcoholic. Date 2 I confess to my alcoholism and activity in AA. Week 3 I tell them I have a std and that's why I haven't ****ed em yet. A few months in I tell them I use "hormones". All those talks ****in suck. I consider becoming a priest haha. It just complicates the whole relationship. I'm starting to date a real goody-goody right now. She smoking hot, funny as hell and real religious(saving herself for marriage type:/). Atleast the sex talk can wait hahah. Wish me luck with this one.
For a side note, every chick is cool with all that stuff after we talk, its me that gets in fear and bails out. Its all mental
 
Well said. Now can you talk to my wife

HAHA! Thanks :)

Well, as I said and has been demonstrated thousands upon thousands of times in documented medical literature and case studies, steroids are safe... but more so than that, I have always had a bit of a knack for word smithing and speaking, so my passion for bodybuilding coupled with my respectable education on the subject won her over. Plus... I think she likes shooting me in the delt every now and then and watching the blood ooze out if she angles the needle too much, HAAA! I will hire myself out as a spousal steroid consultant for $30 an hour via phone or Email - HAAAAAA HA JK! ;)

I think once that thick and suffocating blanket of media hype and hysterical claims and disinformation is peeled back to reveal the underlying blinding light of truth and logical practical bliss aka steroids - the friction is reduced little by little and before you know it, you'll be preloading your pins while watching a little cable on a Thursday night together on the couch!!
 
HAHA! Thanks :)

Well, as I said and has been demonstrated thousands upon thousands of times in documented medical literature and case studies, steroids are safe... but more so than that, I have always had a bit of a knack for word smithing and speaking, so my passion for bodybuilding coupled with my respectable education on the subject won her over. Plus... I think she likes shooting me in the delt every now and then and watching the blood ooze out if she angles the needle too much, HAAA! I will hire myself out as a spousal steroid consultant for $30 an hour via phone or Email - HAAAAAA HA JK! ;)

I think once that thick and suffocating blanket of media hype and hysterical claims and disinformation is peeled back to reveal the underlying blinding light of truth and logical practical bliss aka steroids - the friction is reduced little by little and before you know it, you'll be preloading your pins while watching a little cable on a Thursday night together on the couch!!

LOL... Ur hired

Ok so i just got doctor precribed Test cyp and my insurance doesnt cover

Rite Aide is $99 for

Test cyp 200mg/ml 10ml vial

Anyone have suggestion where i can get precription filled for the best price?

Maybe an online pharmacy? Any suggestions?
 
yeah rite-aid has their own discount card, they won't tell you about it unless you ask... but it should be good for at least 15% off... usually more.

i used to work at one, like generic ambien was 59.99 for 30 days w/o the card, it was 8.99 with the card.

there are a lot of Rx discount drug cards out there, and they are usually free to boot.
 
sit her down and say u want her to watch a movie put it bigger faster stronger and just watch it dont say anything. When ur done with the movie act like its no big deal, she will obviously get the idea ur playing with the thought of cycling and at least what she will see on TV will have addressed many of the issues. Further more there are a lot of benefits to being on cycle as well, especially in her case if u do test ur sex drive and performance is going to go wayy up.

Ur going to have to tell her the last thing u need is to be halfway through a long cycle and she found ur **** and now ur PCT HCG and steroids are all flushed down the toilet and u have to scramble around to get ur PCT **** before u start crashing or u go passed the halflife of when u needed to start. It will just make it easier if u two are on the same page.

I have a gf and she hates steroids, i sat her down talked to her presented evidence from time to time, gave her examples of people who are on steroids (famous ppl not IFBB Pros) made her watch bigger faster stronger, and told her i am going to do steroids. She threw a hissy fit and then basically came around and is ok with it now,especially since i have run a couple cycles with her around and she knows that not everything the new says about them are true. Not to mention she isnt exactly upset at the results im getting.

Wow if anyone flushed my gear or especially my PCT down the toilet, I think that's pretty much the only thing that would cause me to have "roid rage" I'm a pretty chill guy but that's below the belt.
 
LOL... Ur hired

Ok so i just got doctor precribed Test cyp and my insurance doesnt cover

Rite Aide is $99 for

Test cyp 200mg/ml 10ml vial

Anyone have suggestion where i can get precription filled for the best price?

Maybe an online pharmacy? Any suggestions?

I will offer my consultation and education seminar services... in exchange for a couple of those scripts! Haaaa ;)

yeah rite-aid has their own discount card, they won't tell you about it unless you ask... but it should be good for at least 15% off... usually more.

i used to work at one, like generic ambien was 59.99 for 30 days w/o the card, it was 8.99 with the card.

there are a lot of Rx discount drug cards out there, and they are usually free to boot.

Too bad you can't simply go to different pharmas and receive 're-fills' on your initial prescription, you could run 1g of Test a week of true pharmaceutical grade gear. (drools on keyboard.... eyes roll back into head....) Mmmmm!!!! :)

Wow if anyone flushed my gear or especially my PCT down the toilet, I think that's pretty much the only thing that would cause me to have "roid rage" I'm a pretty chill guy but that's below the belt.

Reminds me of "Goodfellas!" Except... Cocaine
 
I will offer my consultation and education seminar services... in exchange for a couple of those scripts! Haaaa ;)



Too bad you can't simply go to different pharmas and receive 're-fills' on your initial prescription, you could run 1g of Test a week of true pharmaceutical grade gear. (drools on keyboard.... eyes roll back into head....) Mmmmm!!!! :)



Reminds me of "Goodfellas!" Except... Cocaine


Funny u should say that :) I have 2 scipts for it. So hopefully I get ins to pay for one and I pay for the 2nd

;)
 
2 scipts for it, that's what I am talking about. Your going to have to share that info. Maybe cvs will due 2 for 1 sale for Mothers Day. Happy Mothers Day, here are your flowers, candy and a big box full of prescription steroids. Oh well with my luck they would sell out just before I got in line....lol.....she will have to settle for some viagra and some wine.............................what again.
 
So what do you have to do to get a doctor to prescribe you test cyp, wouldnt a guy who's all beefed up complaining of lethargy and loss of libido with low blood test levels be a red flag for any MD?
 
So what do you have to do to get a doctor to prescribe you test cyp, wouldnt a guy who's all beefed up complaining of lethargy and loss of libido with low blood test levels be a red flag for any MD?

Well ur on the right track

U gotta go see or doc and complain of exactly as you describe. The key is to go right afer a cycle wile still in PCT when ur test levels are at their lowest because he's gonna send you for blood work.

When ur bllod comes back super low ur gonna sit down with Doc and have a chat about all the TRT options, u wanna know what ur talking about we don't wanna send up those red fflags. Tell him about buddy that had good results with Testim and Androgel but u wanna try the Androderm patches. You like the idea of the delivery method and keeping levels constant bla bla bla. You rule out injections as ur not a big fan of needles and pattches seem the way to go.

This should set the stage nicely and now ur on TRT and an added benwfit is ur doc need to monitor ur blood. So u are now able to get bloodwork for free on demand.

Let's say at about day 10 of ur patches (now you can actually fill the prescription or not, depends on ur ins, they are pretty much useless for BB) you call the Doc and tell him the patches just arnt working out for you. They are irritable, expensive, don't stick and embarassing and after doing some further investigation you have found that the Cyp injection only need to be administered once every 5 days and ur wife or gf is happy to administer.

BINGO my frnd. U r in the programme

Nothing wrong with being athletic, if u look like Ronnie Coleman then might be bit more tricky at the end of the day if u sell it well the Doc is prob gonna prescribe. He gonna air on the side of caution and trust you unless he has reason to otherwise.

Sorry typos, damn phone
 
I did almost the same thing, except I went on testim. After 60 days, went back and told doc I had skin and wife issues with the testim. The wife was afraid of transfer, I would rather just self inject. Bingo I got test e and its covered by ins since it was rx by a urologist.
 
Man I'm jealous of all u old farts getting prescription test when u probably have a good test range. Mayb I'll hop on this bandwagon...:006::newbie::006:
 
Man I'm jealous of all u old farts getting prescription test when u probably have a good test range. Mayb I'll hop on this bandwagon...:006::newbie::006:

Yea. Got blood taken about 2 months after last cycle and was right back to normal just used Clomid and Natty test boosters :)
 
Man I'm jealous of all u old farts getting prescription test when u probably have a good test range. Mayb I'll hop on this bandwagon...:006::newbie::006:

Hey who are you calling an old fart. I'm going to hit you right upside your head with my walker, as soon as I remember where it is....lol. It was one of those young punks in the gym who gave me the idea....kids don't you just love it when they have a good idea...
 
Hey who are you calling an old fart. I'm going to hit you right upside your head with my walker, as soon as I remember where it is....lol. It was one of those young punks in the gym who gave me the idea....kids don't you just love it when they have a good idea...

Yea I was just wanted to get some blood work after a cycle and didn't want to tell the reason Doc why :)
 
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