7a OHN Do we have a winner here?

whats the name of your website ?

and how much your selling 17 aa ohn , and do u have 17 aa oht ?

I know about 5 websites that will have it soon , but they are all expensive !
 
With respcet to the board, I do not want to advertise outright without persmission first, so I will withhold posting my url.

I have not decided on prices yet, but I'm thinking in the range of 1/3 of instynct's for 17a-OHN. As for 17-OHT, I will not have it for the forseeable future, as I have invested all of my available money elsewhere, and I am looking into other things.
 
Why would instynct sell his product for less if people buy it at the price he sells it for? It would make no sense on his part to decrease price unless sales dropped off.


Please remember this, no one is offering these products b/c they are nice guys. These products are being processed and marketed in an attempt to make a profit and nothing more.
 
so it's gonna be aroung 30-40 per gram ? sounds reasonable

are you going to have it as capsules , or powder in soluotion ?
 
size said:
Why would instynct sell his product for less if people buy it at the price he sells it for? It would make no sense on his part to decrease price unless sales dropped off.


Please remember this, no one is offering these products b/c they are nice guys. These products are being processed and marketed in an attempt to make a profit and nothing more.
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I am aware of this, and am quite fluent in pricing strategy. That being said, one, such as myself, breaking into an industry, can only help himself by having one more advantage over competition. If I was more established and well known, then I would sell any given compound for more money; I am not doing this to make friends either.

The whole debacle with M1T pricing has been a tremendous blow to my start-up venture. IMO, never should this have been done witha compound in such demand. It can virtually ruin a market. Think about it; 1AD is 1/5 the cost of M1T from the manufacturer, yet costs about 5 times as much retail. That's what we get when people who have no idea determing price for an intire industry do so.
 
Custom, I wouldn't let it have much of a blow on your venture. Really, I ordered my m1t (4 bottles) recently- but before the recent debacle you're talking about. I'm not upset though. Neither should anyone be. Size is exactly right, let the market determine the price- if you bring your product to market at a price below your competition (any distributor, any product) and can still turn a fair and reasonable profit, more power to you. Don't think Sam Walton missed many nights of sleep as Wal Mart put higher priced business after business down. It might not make everyone happy, me included, but that's the real market. There should be a thread on economics because I predict Bobo and Chemo are gonna get pissed about these valid topics turning into "how to run a business" talks. More power to you custom, I think you got a PM from me. For that matter, more power to all the pioneers on this board, I know I'd be totally in the dark without your contributions. Thanks again.
 
custom said:
That's what we get when people who have no idea determing price for an intire industry do so.
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You are correct. Invisible ceiling and floor prices will exist in most markets and most prices will lie somewhere in between.

Good luck with your venture. Being friendly and having good service has equal weight when it comes to price in my opinion.
 
I know I will be much cheaper, selling powder in raw form definelty allows for a cheaper price. It will definetly cost more then 10k per kilo, but it isnt going to be that much higher.
 
how much are you selling the gram ?50 bucks

if you buy it for 10 k , then1 gram should be at most 50 bucks , thats 40 dollar profit on only one gram . thats 40 thousands of profit ?

if you sell like 10 kilos thats 400 thosands !


dude at least i knew of more than 500 people that are going to buy it to stock up !
 
He could sell it at whatever he pleases. He is the one taking the chance, and it shouldn't matter what he makes off it. He gives great service and great products. Not to mention great prices.
 
Another price debate??

1 gram should give 50-100 doses. That is 50 cents - $1 per dose. Stop bitching about price and pay for what works.

Chemo
 
It will be less then $50 per gram, that is for sure. But until I know the exact dosing, and get the rest of my lab info done I wont release prices. Other then I am hoping to have it ready by the end of jan. I am working on two other compounds as well at the moment and hope to have them done first.
 
I messed up my math and deleted my earlier post. Anyway Mikes m-1-t is 3.3cent per mg. If the new stuff which I'm assuming is 17aaOHN is sold for $10/g then its 1 red cent per mg - can't complain about the price there. I know its raw powder vs tabs or capsules so the end consumer will have more worries about storage and dosing but its still ok if the compound works as advertised.
I'll wait for Mike or PN to tab this ;)
 
All I can comment about is what I will be doing, I have no idea who will be doing what or what they will charge. Chemo gave me some good buisness advice, so I just want to say thank you to him. And of course as I get more info I will post it here first.
 
i emailed instyct about the product and the price competition, i don't want to say what he told me because it was private, but i'm not at all upset about paying his price! i guess he could be telling me a tall tale, but from his rep, i'm assuming its legit. i can't wait for my "17a-ohn" from him
 
i don't know the details, i'm not a chemist :) i leave that to chemo and you guys, he just said its different and did some explaining. from what i gathered id on't regret the price at all. i'm sure i'll buy some from you and others though. i'm a college student who who has enough supplements in his room one day they will call the fda or someone on me if they ever see my pharmacy :) i support the sponsors here and everyone else :) so far everyone form this forum has been great and great customer service with everyone. my only complaint is that the ups and fedex people who deliver my products aren't single hot females, if one company could fix that i'd send them a tip

i should have the product from him in a week or so, its in route to him from the sounds of things.
 
just to get this right, then 7a-ohn will have less estrogen/prog sides then 17a-ohn? if i'm thinking this through correctly?
 
I just wanted to make one more comment on the price.

You guys have to consider what goes into a pricing structur. Let's look at this example:

Product: $5K
Manufacturing: $1K
Advertising/Samples/returned goods: $200 monthly
Insurance liability policy: $10K annual
Shipping: $400 monthly
Credit Card processing/Web hosting: $100 monthly (depending on volume)

Take all of this, and you have a pretty heft debt. Now you have to take your precious, precious profit and put more money back into your company or you'll be a one-hit wonder. After we have done that, we should be entitled to make some kind of living, no?

So please guys, realize that folks such as Sledge, myself, Chemo and others are not getting in line to but purple Lamborghinis. There is potential to make some very good money, but there is great risk involved as well. In no way, shape, or form would a legit business rape its customers with price and hope to have longevity in the same breath. Please realize this when everyone starts whining because place X has their favorite product cheaper than place Y. As chemo said, pay for what works.

Very soon, there will be multiple places selling the same products. Please let's try to look beyond, "Well his is $1 cheaper, so the other guy is a jerk." This is a $6 billion dollar industry, and I truely beleive that there is room for all of us if we hold ourselves to higher standards and treat eachother as respected businesses and valued customers.
 
i wasn't complaining of the prices and i'm still happy with buying from instyct. i just want my goods and i'd be happier, but ir ealize there are delays. i paid more for my m1t and i stocked up, i don't care. i know the time i wait for prices to come down there will be something better out and it looks like there is starting tobe better products hit the market then m1t.

electronics do the same thing, prices go down as better stuff gets developed, whats new? the only time i can see a company raping its customers is if there is going to be a law to stop the product, then take in all you can why you can cause you might be mostly shut down anyway. but thats an entirly diff issue and iw on't go there :) if i don't like the prices i can do it myself and sell it, but if i'm not willing to do that i'll buy from others and not cry about prices...don't worry about people whining, they always will. just your business and let me make my orders to you :)
 
btw chemo and others were bringing up 6oxo and ergopharm and there prices...i think it is a stupid price when nolva and stuff is out there so don't give them mybusiness, but i don't bring it up on a forum. no better way to show a company their prices are out of hand then to not buy from them. its a wake up call...till that happens he's dumb to lower his prices. would be bad business and not supply and demand. the people who are dumb here are the customers since he's still in business he must be selling it at a rate he's happy with...

time to drop all the price comments imo, you don't like it don't buy it or start your own company and see how easy it is...
 
I think people should harry with this release to sell their stocks , with ephedra ban , the phs are just on the door ( the way i see it )
 
Well, if that is the case, I just may have to tell Uncle Sam to get bent as I refuse to let $20,000 of investment go to waste because some beauocrat decides that banning these very lethal substances is the only thing that he has ever gotten accomplished besides getting his hand caught in the corporate donation cookie jar one too many times. Would just effectively go incognito.
 
lol custom, after you tell uncle sam to get bent, pm me and sifu :) we'll help you find a way to ditch the contraband :-)
 
ok custom if u get triax..i def want some..that chit was awesome.and why the heck cant i pm anyone anymore? is there a way i can get ur list f products? custom?
 
I agree, I am not about to waste 4 new compounds, all the money that I have spent as well as all of the time I have put in because one day the govt feels that PHs are more important then real drugs such as coke.
 
2gcorey said:
i emailed instyct about the product and the price competition, i don't want to say what he told me because it was private, but i'm not at all upset about paying his price! i guess he could be telling me a tall tale, but from his rep, i'm assuming its legit. i can't wait for my "17a-ohn" from him
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Updates???
-chem.
 
2gcorey said:
he had some shipping complications, i'll get it first week of feb or i get extra why?
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Just wondering if you had started a cycle with it,from what you said Instynct told you about this compound it sounded like he was quite confident in result it would produce.I sure it's all speculation,but I would still like to hear your real world results.
Thanks,
-chem.
 
i haven't taken this from insynct he had shipping problems to him, i won't go into detail. i'll get it by first week of feb or he's gonna make it up to me.

i'm doing methyl1/4add now though, be a while before i do instynct stuff and yes he does sound damn sure it will be the strongest on the market. i don't think he's given the full chemical name for it though. i'm not positive. because i'm doing a longer cycle of m1/4add and some other stuff it will be a while before i test his compound. i'll start a cycle on my m1/4add and keep a good log for you guys...

no clue about the ban, i'm sure its all speculation, but i'm just as sure that its on the way
 
Good luck with your m-1,4add cycle,I trying it out right now too with some transdermal 1test/4ad.I look forward to your log.
-chem.
 
5-10mgs per day. is my rough guess. it should be dosed by weight. does anyone have the dosing protocol for anavar, i dont remember it off the top of my head.
 
Designer Supps said:
5-10mgs per day. is my rough guess. it should be dosed by weight. does anyone have the dosing protocol for anavar, i dont remember it off the top of my head.
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.2-.3mg per lb of bodyweight If I remembered correctly.
 
if you guys don't slow down bring all this out i'm gonna go broke and blame it on you guys! i got 6 bottles of m1t, m1/4add, m5aa, and 250 bucks of 7a-ohn on the way, 4 bottles of nolva, letro, and man o' man, i got enough drugs to start a pharmacy :) keep it up guys
 
2gcorey said:
if you guys don't slow down bring all this out i'm gonna go broke and blame it on you guys! i got 6 bottles of m1t, m1/4add, m5aa, and 250 bucks of 7a-ohn on the way, 4 bottles of nolva, letro, and man o' man, i got enough drugs to start a pharmacy :) keep it up guys
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lol DAMN thats a lot of PHs, haha. Only have one bottle of m1t, and not gonna be using that for a while. Next thing I have in mind is probably 17a-m4ohn and some 5aa cyp for a summer cut cycle, so im probably gonna be catchin up to you on that stash, haha. Just need my cholesterol in check, shot up to 182 this round, but as soon as it goes down... GAME ON BABY! GAME ON!
 
I was wondering if anyone can confirm this or put this one to rest: California has already banned 4ad, and I believe they banned the 7aOHN. True or not?

I have already seen that the 4ad ban isn't really being enforced at all, so perhaps I have nothing to worry about until the nationwide ban goes into effect.
 
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