60 and still at it ...

Cruise o Test cyp , deca, proviron and tren enanthate... blast on the shorter esters
 
6 on and 6 off is not bad. My doctor does blood work twice a year and knws i am going to blast and cruise, but i need my ranges to come in under 1000 which my trt usually puts me in the 800s
 
6 on and 6 off is not bad. My doctor does blood work twice a year and knws i am going to blast and cruise, but i need my ranges to come in under 1000 which my trt usually puts me in the 800s
 
jtbull said:
6 on and 6 off is not bad. My doctor does blood work twice a year and knws i am going to blast and cruise, but i need my ranges to come in under 1000 which my trt usually puts me in the 800s
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Explain please exactly how you do your blast
Old School said:
500 cyp... 400 deca... 400 tren enanthate weekly and 25 mgs of proviron daily
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How are you handling the side effects if any?Back in the day I did every drug you can name except that ecstasy molly stuff and was not intimidated but the juice worries me a bit Lol
 
jackzapp said:
Explain please exactly how you do your blast

How are you handling the side effects if any?Back in the day I did every drug you can name except that ecstasy molly stuff and was not intimidated but the juice worries me a bit Lol
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No sides really.... sometimes I need to run a little aromasin, but I have been on continuously for so long all seems normal to me
 
jackzapp said:
Explain please exactly how you do your blast

I am only on my first one. My trt is 200mg every 10 days that my wife monitors so they are every 10 days. the sustanon 300 is every 7 days i self medicate and as of now i am taking .5mg arimidex per day. I am running it for 10 weeks and might for 12. I think my first shot was the first wednesday in april last shot i think is first week in june. and my bloodwork will be done around 8/2-8/5 as soon as i have my bloods done I am going to do same trt but 300mg sustonan per week ( possibly 450 or 600) and 500mg of equipoise for my second cycle. I have some dbol but relaly want to get leaner first. I have BF% in the high teens, but have dropped 4% or so of bodyfat since being on trt.
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Old School said:
500 cyp... 400 deca... 400 tren enanthate weekly and 25 mgs of proviron daily
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Could i replace the tren with 400 of equipoise without much issue? what does proviron do? Is that the stuff you take with higher doses of deca like caber? how many shots are they divided into.
 
My liver enzymes were high a couple times due to running some superdrol but afterwards they retuned to normal after I came off it... I always use Liver Detox by Allmax.
 
Also what is your height/weight I’m 5’9.5” and float between 177-183
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My liver enzymes were high a couple times due to running some superdrol but afterwards they retuned to normal after I came off it... I always use Liver Detox by Allmax.
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Check out Thistlyn by Nature's Way is also amazing.Allmax huh...you know Eric Broser?
 
jtbull said:
Could i replace the tren with 400 of equipoise without much issue? what does proviron do? Is that the stuff you take with higher doses of deca like caber? how many shots are they divided into.
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Tren and EQ work totally different... they are really not comparable to each other. Proviron controls SHBG so there is more free test circulating and it also makes other steroids work better... I shoot on Wed. and Sat.
 
jtbull said:
Could i replace the tren with 400 of equipoise without much issue? what does proviron do? Is that the stuff you take with higher doses of deca like caber? how many shots are they divided into.
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Tren and EQ work totally different... they are really not comparable to each other. Proviron controls SHBG so there is more free test circulating and it also makes other steroids work better... I shoot on Wed. and Sat.
 
Old School said:
Tren and EQ work totally different... they are really not comparable to each other. Proviron controls SHBG so there is more free test circulating and it also makes other steroids work better... I shoot on Wed. and Sat.
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What's your opinion on Masteron as far as working synergistically with test as well as its anti estrogen properties?
 
jackzapp said:
Also what is your height/weight I’m 5’9.5” and float between 177-183

Check out Thistlyn by Nature's Way is also amazing.Allmax huh...you know Eric Broser?
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I am 6’1” at around 220... I have been as heavy as 296lbs but my best was when I was 54 y/o at 240 lbs with about 7 percent bf...
 

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jackzapp said:
What's your opinion on Masteron as far as working synergistically with test as well as its anti estrogen properties?
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Great stuff... hardens you up and is great for pre contest... bf should be pretty low to get the full effect
 
Old School said:
Alway with orals and on and off otherwise
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So you would take them during the 6 months then not take it the off period? My cycles are rpobably going to run 12-16 weeks so i am still trying to plan them out including ensuring that i get my levels back before blood work
 
jtbull said:
So you would take them during the 6 months then not take it the off period? My cycles are rpobably going to run 12-16 weeks so i am still trying to plan them out including ensuring that i get my levels back before blood work
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I have no off period.
 
jtbull said:
I have to because of trt testing
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That’s the bummer of TRT if you want the stuff you need through your Dr. My Dr. started me on Androgel... what a joke that was... I applied it to all the areas he told me not to...
 
Old School said:
That’s the bummer of TRT if you want the stuff you need through your Dr. My Dr. started me on Androgel... what a joke that was... I applied it to all the areas he told me not to...
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Yeah they dont always know it all. Before test since the wife and i were trying to have a child i was on clomid 50mg 3x per week and 1mg of arimidex a day and my estrogen was always so low it could not be meassured and they thought it was no big deal. Now since he is a urologist they deal with lots of cancer where you want estrogen crashed, but for my purposes forums like this let me know it was BAD!!!!. I self medicated 1mg 3x per week and got it in that 20-40 sweet spot range. I forget the number though.
 
So incidentally of you ran something like a sarm that crashes natural test would the sarm show false high test levels and there fore stop you from being prescribed trt? Same if you were on winstrol or anavar.
 
kenpoengineer said:
Would you post them? I’m 57 and have always been curious what an older lifter, on anabolics, looks like. Also, your testosterone levels are based on TRT usage, right? There aren’t many of us at this age so you are a rare breed.
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I know I'm posting to an old thread, but one of the things I've found is that if diet is really on point, with lowish carbs and very high healthy fats, labs are usually great on anabolics. Lipids should be in good shape so long as diet is really dialed in. I know of people who can cruise on 500mg/test year round (some fitness models) and keep lipids in really good shape via diet.

PS: great job OP
 
chemjr said:
Am I the only one that is curious if he uses peptides or growth?
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I sometimes use MK and LGD or RAD when I get those for my wife but for the most part my receptors are already occupied with various AAS. I have used GH and also insulin in the past but do not prefer it to a well thought out stack of AAS. For me I find the MK 677 just as effective and more cost efficient as GH and insulin can be very counter productive if not used very cautiously and correctly
 
Old School said:
I sometimes use MK and LGD or RAD when I get those for my wife but for the most part my receptors are already occupied with various AAS. I have used GH and also insulin in the past but do not prefer it to a well thought out stack of AAS. For me I find the MK 677 just as effective and more cost efficient as GH and insulin can be very counter productive if not used very cautiously and correctly
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since you used both (mk and growth) do you find mk gives you crazy water retention compared to growth?
 
jtbull said:
since you used both (mk and growth) do you find mk gives you crazy water retention compared to growth?
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Research MK causes me to retain water.
 
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is there one of the sponsors he anyone can reccomend? I know we have a couple i think that sell "research chems"
 
jtbull said:
is there one of the sponsors he anyone can reccomend? I know we have a couple i think that sell "research chems"
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Old School said:
I have been lifting for almost 40 years now and I’ve had some major issues but I still keep at it. My joints are holding up well because I’ve always taking collagen, etc. but I have had lower back surgery, shoulder surgery, two torn Calves And a small bicep tear. All these injuries are
predominately from powerlifting before I switched to bodybuilding full-time
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You're looking great! Ive got 5 years to go till 60 but lets be honest little to no hope of getting near where you are partly because im natty and partly because ill probably do myself some injuries which i can do without at this stage in life! What form of collagen do you use and what brand and dose?
 
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Rostam said:
I know this is an old thread, but I'm curious to hear from all these older guys who do steroid cycle (I'm not talking about those who are on TRT or blast and cruise) to see how they recover after the cycle/PCT. Would be great to hear the feedback and experience from those who do/did cycles at older age.
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You don't rebound as quickly after long cycles, that's for sure. PCTs also take longer, but it helps to keep cycles on the short side (NMT 4wk esters, NMT 8wks total.)

You may also consider pulsing as a long term solution. Gains are less, but your business remains intact.
 
Rocket3015 said:
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its 12.5 mg. is that enough per day or should I take 25 like i often hear? Wife is dead against growth hormone but she wont understand this is the same thing but a tad weaker. Damn this guy has some good stuff. Thanks for the code. That makes it much more affordable.
 
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