pcn
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What are some numbers to indicate high RBC and hematocrit levels? And what's the downside of those levels? Thanks
6 weeks into TRT, labs show Test is lower?
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What are some numbers to indicate high RBC and hematocrit levels? And what's the downside of those levels? Thanks
EasyEJL
Never enough
when I was at 150mg / wk or higher mine came out around 20.5 and 53
EasyEJL
Never enough
once I dropped down to 120, they both came back inside normal, so i'm staying there. Not sure what my e2 is now, probably better to not know, since I don't have any symptoms either.
EasyEJL
Never enough
Yeah, all it takes is being a bit more dehydrated than normal, some significant event raising blood pressure short term and pop there goes a stroke. Work a few long days, abuse red bull to stay energetic and that alone could do it. There may be some dietary things you could do as well.
fueledpassion
Well-known member
You guys would be terrified of EQ considering your phobia of RBC counts...
You want to talk about shortness of breath, lol. EQ trumps Test in the area of blood thickening.
You want to talk about shortness of breath, lol. EQ trumps Test in the area of blood thickening.
EasyEJL
Never enough
no, because there is a huge difference in risk based on elevated levels for 3 months of a cycle, and elevated levels for the next 30 years.
fueledpassion
Well-known member
ahh, I get ya. So it's the long-term stress that the thicker blood is placing on the heart and piping...
10-4
EasyEJL
Never enough
that plus figure if there is (just to toss dumb numbers out) a .01% chance each day your levels are above X, for 3-4 months its not a huge risk, you'd have to have bad luck to get a hit in that 90-100 days. But in 20 years (7300 days) you are more likely to have had it happen. But the long term strain too isn't good. Its funny, even when mine was elevated my blood pressure was still fine.
fueledpassion
Well-known member
It makes sense. I'm kinda viewing this like I would with some mechanical pump. The additional load created by the higher density of the fluid would naturally cause the pump to be more stressed out over the long haul. That's a good perspective you have there.
I've been looking at getting my father on TRT. He is 62, has had a history of vascular clogging as he went through a triple bypass surgery not too long ago. His heart doctor recommended he get on TRT, too.
But its good to know that he should be at the 100mg/wk range rather than 200+..
hardgainerjg
New member
Talk to your Doc
When I started on Androgel 1% my doc started me on 2 pumps. My test levels dropped and the next visit he bumped me up to 4 pumps. Now I am well within the normal range.
When I started on Androgel 1% my doc started me on 2 pumps. My test levels dropped and the next visit he bumped me up to 4 pumps. Now I am well within the normal range.
Lockout888
New member
I bumped my dosage to 4 pumps a day and got blood-work 2 weeks later. It looks like I can't absorb this stuff:
Total Test = 334 (348-1197)
LH = <0.2 (1.7-8.6)
FSH = 0.4 (1.5-12.4)
Estradiol = 23.5 (7.6-42.6)
Albumin = 4.4 (3.5-5.5)
AnabolicHolic
Banned
He quite possibly is getting such poor absorption due to the fact that they have the patient apply the gel to the underarms only. If he applied it to his shoulders, upper arms, upper groin area....or switched to androgel which is a straight up pump that you can pretty much apply anywhere....I bet he'd get double or more what he has now.
Tuffguy80
Member
Just got caught up on this thread it's easy to bring your RBC count down.
Give blood every couple months. This will immediately bring your RBC count down. If your on TRT or just constantly cycling I would suggest you be a blood donor. Have your count check after that and you'll see.
Easy fix and keeps you healthy... There are some people out there with conditions that their body naturally produces too much RBC and that is what they have those people do.
Give blood every couple months. This will immediately bring your RBC count down. If your on TRT or just constantly cycling I would suggest you be a blood donor. Have your count check after that and you'll see.
Easy fix and keeps you healthy... There are some people out there with conditions that their body naturally produces too much RBC and that is what they have those people do.
The Matrix
Well-known member
I would suggesting ruling out dehydration by being well hydrated before blood test, sleep apnea , evaluate caffeine consumption mainly coffee consumption, before going to being a phlebing. You would not believe number of cases I found where phleb was not necessary when you asked further questions.