5mg M1T

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M1T @ 5mg a day for 2-3 weeks...

  • Seems like a good "safer" idea.

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My workout partner did 20mg a day for 30 days with proper pct and he kept around 20lbs of muscle. However he does complain of his lower back hurting.
 
Swole2 said:
I'm currently doing a cycle of 5mg M1t and 400mg of 4AD a day. I think my receptors are pretty clean, I haven't done any test or ph's in 5 years. I'm spreading out the 4AD into two doses 200mg in the morning with M1t and 200mg before workout or afternoon day of rest. This is my fourth day and I have had some pretty strong workouts but I think it's placebo right now. I'll post again next week.

:thumbsup: Keep us updated.
 
Yesterday I bumped up my M1t dosage to 10mg a day one in the morning and one before workout or 8 hours in between dosages. Still with 400 mg of 4ad a day. Yesterday's chest routine was great. No problem pressing 305 2 sets for 6 reps.
 
Kristopher said:
anyone ever done a full cycle at 5mg? also anyone cut with M1t before? if so what results?

some of the older threads had guys trying M1T on cutters. pretty successful from what i remember. cals were dropped significantly, but they were still gaining weight and strength while dropping bf. it's no doubt that it's a great compound, it just has so many negatives (health risks) that i'm not sure it's worth it.
 
Swole2 said:
Yesterday I bumped up my M1t dosage to 10mg a day one in the morning and one before workout or 8 hours in between dosages. Still with 400 mg of 4ad a day. Yesterday's chest routine was great. No problem pressing 305 2 sets for 6 reps.

Are you taking before / after measurements ?

Weight gain ?

Sides ?
 
Today is my last day of my two week cycle of taking M1t, 4ad combo. I haven't had any side effects and I my weight hasn't increased either. I'm going to take about 4 weeks off and do another cycle starting at 10mg and second week of 20 mg spaced out over the day. I haven't been really impressed with my results. I guess because the hype of M1t I was expecting steroid like gains, but that didn't happen. I will say that my overall strength has improved. I was weighing in at 215 when I started and I'm still weighing 215 at the end. I also increased my protein intake for the passed two weeks supplementing with a protein shake when I couldn't eat whole foods. I will let you know how my pct goes. I start tommorrow.
 
Unfortunately I did not take any measurements, but I must say that I had some serious pumps working out. My pct is going fine. On my next cycle I'll keep a journal and take measurements and even try and keep up with my daily caloric intake. I guess I was a little sloppy this time with keeping up with results. This week I can already tell a difference in my workouts, chest and bi's was pretty rough yesterday. I'm going to do another cycle in about 4 weeks with my workout partner. This time I'm going to start with 10 mg a day and bump it up to 15 the following week and 20mg the third week and of course to help with the lathargic feeling 4ad and even though 5 ad isn't good for s***, I might throw it in with the mix. I've got some left over from a while back and figure hell might as well use it. Later
 
Swole2 said:
I'm currently doing a cycle of 5mg M1t and 400mg of 4AD a day. I think my receptors are pretty clean, I haven't done any test or ph's in 5 years. I'm spreading out the 4AD into two doses 200mg in the morning with M1t and 200mg before workout or afternoon day of rest. This is my fourth day and I have had some pretty strong workouts but I think it's placebo right now. I'll post again next week.
i thought it was supposed to be 100mg of 4ad per 5mg m1t???
 
Beelzebub said:
some of the older threads had guys trying M1T on cutters. pretty successful from what i remember. cals were dropped significantly, but they were still gaining weight and strength while dropping bf.
Could you help me out and direct me to any of these threads? I was thinking of using 5mg/day M1T as a cutter myself.
 
Camaro Hair said:
Could you help me out and direct me to any of these threads? I was thinking of using 5mg/day M1T as a cutter myself.
I've done this exact cycle as a cutter and other than hair loss I had no other sides. Worked great.
I've used M1T for bulking but of course went up to 20mg with major lethargy and major gains.
The reason I tried such a low dosage was to see if indeed there were any sides and damm if my hair didn't start falling out again.
 
M1T is the ****! I wish I had gotten more before the ban. I wouldn't worry too much about the sides there really aren't a lot. You get good gains in size, strength, and overall hardness. There was no conversion to estrogen and the "comedown" wasn't bad, not a big loss of my gains. I didn't take nova but did increase cardio and continued VPX's CEX creatine and Whey protein in addition to thermo/fat burners (2 weeks after) to help avoid the weight gain I've heard about.
 
revndsin said:
M1T is the ****! I wish I had gotten more before the ban. I wouldn't worry too much about the sides there really aren't a lot. You get good gains in size, strength, and overall hardness. There was no conversion to estrogen and the "comedown" wasn't bad, not a big loss of my gains. I didn't take nova but did increase cardio and continued VPX's CEX creatine and Whey protein in addition to thermo/fat burners (2 weeks after) to help avoid the weight gain I've heard about.
thats a lie...you would have less muscle than before your cycle if you didnt use pct with m1t
 
No, really, I didn't have any sides and very little loss of gains, maybe that's just me though. But I am always open to suggestions on how to better use my supps!
Hey big420: PCT? Like what did you have in mind? 6-oxo or something else? I'm going to start another cycle in about 5weeks or so. Would love to hear how I can fine tune my results.
 
Here is an open question for all of you guys: In a few weeks I will be sarting a new cycle of M1T and Tri-Max what else should I take and when should I start taking it? I've heard of starting before, during and after a cycle so I'm interested in what you guys have done and what has worked and what has failed. Thanks!
 
revndsin said:
Here is an open question for all of you guys: In a few weeks I will be sarting a new cycle of M1T and Tri-Max what else should I take and when should I start taking it? I've heard of starting before, during and after a cycle so I'm interested in what you guys have done and what has worked and what has failed. Thanks!
Check out the thread (the "im hardcore" cycle) in the cycle forums.. m1t trimax stack
 
revndsin said:
M1T is the ****! I wish I had gotten more before the ban. I wouldn't worry too much about the sides there really aren't a lot. You get good gains in size, strength, and overall hardness. There was no conversion to estrogen and the "comedown" wasn't bad, not a big loss of my gains. I didn't take nova but did increase cardio and continued VPX's CEX creatine and Whey protein in addition to thermo/fat burners (2 weeks after) to help avoid the weight gain I've heard about.


Ok, there really are a good bit of sides. I had so much trouble with M1T. Hairloss, Acne, Lethargy, Bp, Gyno. I think i pretty much got them all. Never again will i use M1T
 
Grifter said:
Ok, there really are a good bit of sides. I had so much trouble with M1T. Hairloss, Acne, Lethargy, Bp, Gyno. I think i pretty much got them all. Never again will i use M1T
man that sucks ive had no sides with m1t never this sickness either, the only thing close to being sick would have to be me training so friggen hard that id have to run to the bathroom to puke:sick: but other then that my strength was through the roof, no noticable shutdown, huge mass gains and all sorts of other retartedly awesome stuff.... the only thing that makes me not want to tread down that path again is the new knowledge ive recieved about what it was doing to my liver on those 4 week cycles... ouch.
 
A friend of mine works out with a competitive powerlifter. With M1t he suggested drinking a cocktail of 1/2 cup pedialite and 1 cup gatorade before and after workout. He said this magnified his gains a little. He was taking 10mg a day. Strength was through the roof. He said it has something to do with hydration in the muscle. Mabye some of the better educated bros. can shed some light on this. It supposedly works well with creatine also. Any feedback guys?
 
hey i am new here does m1t have that much side effect??? i heard that it doesn't promote gyno atleast
i would really want to hear from who really suffered side effect.. and about post cycle therapy
 
M1T is one of the most potent oral steroids that you can take. I remember I went camping and I ran out of my BP supps and in 1 day my BP shot up like crazy. Pounding heache, feeling like you're going to pass out, insomnia.... i could barely wait to get back in town and take my BP supps.
 
animalXXX said:
M1T is one of the most potent oral steroids that you can take. I remember I went camping and I ran out of my BP supps and in 1 day my BP shot up like crazy. Pounding heache, feeling like you're going to pass out, insomnia.... i could barely wait to get back in town and take my BP supps.

i'm taking 15mg a day. it's been abouta week:food: i haven't had any sides yet.. i heard that m1t doesn't promote gyno.. unless you stack it with 4ad:dump:..i can't get my hands on a nolva and clomid.. what would be the next best altrnative??:trout: :nutkick:
 
Hey i'm glad you got no sides bro.. In the end not everybody reacts the same.. But how can you not get your hands on nolva??? just search brother.. hint one of the board sponsors can help you out... and are you doing any liver protector with the M1T?
 
animalXXX said:
Hey i'm glad you got no sides bro.. In the end not everybody reacts the same.. But how can you not get your hands on nolva??? just search brother.. hint one of the board sponsors can help you out... and are you doing any liver protector with the M1T?

do they ship international??:hammer: because i am currently at korea..:nutkick: kkkk no i'm not taking it.. but i'll be at my pct cycle... my liver is trained with alcohol..:fart:
 
animalXXX said:
M1T is one of the most potent oral steroids that you can take. I remember I went camping and I ran out of my BP supps and in 1 day my BP shot up like crazy. Pounding heache, feeling like you're going to pass out, insomnia.... i could barely wait to get back in town and take my BP supps.

What were you taking for bp? I know of the standard hawthorn and celery seed, but these take a while to kick in. I'm guessing from what you described that the symptoms were alieviated fairly quickly. Just wondering if there's another supp, with a more rapid action, that could be used.
 
I also used "Blood pressure control" by Twinlab. it works. I guess that if it gets really bad you could take a diuretic, like Taraxatone. In the end the reason that the blood pressure rises is because the water retention. So you get rid of that water and it will alleviat the symptoms. I've never taken it to lower BP though. Even when i went camping for 4 days and it got really bad, once I got home I took my CoQ10 and Hawthorne Berry and even though they're supposed to take a while to kick in, in a matter of hours I was feeling much better.
 
HELIX7 said:
do they ship international??:hammer: because i am currently at korea..:nutkick: kkkk no i'm not taking it.. but i'll be at my post cycle therapy cycle... my liver is trained with alcohol..:fart:


Please oh please tell me you are not serious! Are you in the military?
 
Usually not a lot of symptoms of high blood pressure which is why it's called the silent killer :)

And taking diruetic doesn't seem like a good idea to combat high blood pressure...Could be wrong though.
 
revodrew said:
Please oh please tell me you are not serious! Are you in the military?

actually i am not that smal. i've been lifting for 3years. i weight 198 lbs, i bench 264@ 8reps... i don't get what's dumb about asking question?? oh my bp after taking was 145over97 it was normal..for 30 years old boy, about the liver i was thinking about tanking milk whistle..
 
helix you really have to realize the situation here. m1t is the most orally suppressive steroid ever created, causing a complete shutdown of your naturual production of testosterone in 1-3 days, and keeping it suppressed up to 2 weeks after cessation of use. that is insane. it is also MURDER on your liver. have no doubt you are taking one of the most powerful oral steroids ever created.

you should not have even touched it without knowing EVERYTHING beforehand. your liver is trained with alcohol? it doesnt work that way either use milk thistle or risk getting effed up. if you cant get your hands on nolva and chlomid expect your post cycle therapy to have little chance of restoring your natrual testosterone production. if you dont jumpstart your naturaly testosterone production correctly you will be sterile, not be able to get an erection with time, lose ALL of your gains, and possibly feel depressed. this is serious man i wish you had asked before starting up what a drug that seasoned steroid users tend to steer clear of.

as for side effects. after my last m1t cycle my natural testosterone bottomed out 3 or 4 months after i completed post cycle therapy. i was fine at first but then out of nowhere i crashed. people have reported similiar experiences over at BB.com. if i were you id drop it right now while recovery could still be quick and either look more into diet and training or at least research a safer steroid to use.

dont mess around with m1t if you can help it.

edit: and yes people have been getting gyno with m1t because of its effects on progesterone
 
Im doing an M1T cycle right now of 10mg, and im feeling pretty dam good. Some days I feel a tad bit lethargic, but strong as hell. Urine looks nice and clear! Im drinking about1.5 gallons of water ED!
 
Wow! I started this thread 2 years ago, and it's still here. Oh, well needless to say. I got a little stronger off of my cycle with M1-T I still have a little left. Anyway 5mg was safer. As far as my results I"m thinking of upping the dosage this winter to 10mg and see if I can keep any gains. My strength did go up, but I didn't gain any muscle mass, of course this was two years ago. Anyway, It's been a while since I've been on here, don't have any time working hard and training even harder.
 
I have recently learned a ton of info about steroids and especially prohormones. Remembering that a very good friend of mine had bought some type of prohormone before the Janurary 2005 ban I asked him what compound it was out of curosity. To my horror he shows me the bottle: Legal Gear Methyl-1-Testosterone. After just turning 18 he took a four week cycle of it @ 20mg ED, and it gets worse. He took NO supporting supplements while on cycle, and NO post cycle therapy. He also shared with me an anecdote, after stopping use of the M1T he couldn't get wood for a week. He took the M1T at the advice of our old trainer who I used to (used to is the key phrase here) look up to. My question is what damage might my friend have caused himself?
 
riftvalley50 said:
I have recently learned a ton of info about steroids and especially prohormones. Remembering that a very good friend of mine had bought some type of prohormone before the Janurary 2005 ban I asked him what compound it was out of curosity. To my horror he shows me the bottle: Legal Gear Methyl-1-Testosterone. After just turning 18 he took a four week cycle of it @ 20mg ED, and it gets worse. He took NO supporting supplements while on cycle, and NO post cycle therapy. He also shared with me an anecdote, after stopping use of the M1T he couldn't get wood for a week. He took the M1T at the advice of our old trainer who I used to (used to is the key phrase here) look up to. My question is what damage might my friend have caused himself?
Oh my god

that sucks

that boy needs clomid asap, look at the board sponsors and buy him some clomiphene citrate

how long ago did he do this?
 
Roughly 1.5 years ago. He's currently having trouble gaining, could it be that his test still has not recovered? (his diet has gotten worse so that could very well be the reason). Would clomid or nolva still help him?
 
stop bumping an ancient thread that is moot anyways considering its banned and is the chittiest of that gen of orals to boot.
 
I ran a couple good M1T cycles a few years back at 10mg. In my opinion (and probably others, I haven't read all the responses), something that shuts you down hard and fast such as M1T, should be run at a dose that you'll atleast experience enough gains from it that would exceed the gains of some other natural alternative.

What I mean is, if 5mg shuts you down just as hard as 10mg or 20mg, why would you only run it at 5mg if the same gains could be made using a non-hormonal alternative? If I were you, I'd run 10-15mg of M1T, spaced evenly, and have toremifene on hand. You could always play it safer and use Cycle Support while on and include Post Cycle Support with your post cycle protocol. Post Cycle Support would be good as a stand-alone for some other PHs, however, M1T is pretty nuts (pun intended) in the suppression department.
 
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