5-AT, 7-OH, 7-Keto, 11-oxo, and other anti cortisol steroids...

I ran 11keto boldenone, bought the last bottle that was in stock a few years back, was very hard to tell the difference between regular 11 keto and this compound. 11keto boldenone is supposed to exclusively 5b reduce leaving no androgeic metabolites. Even regular 11 keto is mild at best for anabolic and keeping you dry. To be honest regular 11oxo oral at high doses beats 11keto test transdermal any day of the week
 
Ten years ago 11kt worked great for me, now I ran it a couple years ago and minimal results. My androgen use did not go up, just got older and seems things don't work as good as they use to. Probably me
 
nostrum420 said:
At Apex we have an 11-KT product (Kronos.) Could you clarify what compounds you mean by "7" and "5-AT" ? We likely have an offering.
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I was using the terminology from the OP's title "5-AT, 7-OH, 7-Keto, 11-oxo, and other..." . Honestly not certain about which compounds. Just looking for advice for which is best cutter and cortisol management - and best source to find them. I knew Apex would be on that list...

I will check out Kronos / 11-KT. I personally have used AET-50 and it was amazing how fast cortisol dropped. Like within minutes of application.
 
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Transdermals that once had obvious white crystals and powder no longer have
BigGame84 said:
I ran it. It was marginally better. We'll never see that again.
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There was actually a Canadian research or steroid company maybe 6 years ago that sold it as an oral tablet or capsule. They quickly got shut down. I think the product looked like an old anadrol packaging from the 80s or 90s. The product was called a-50 or a-100 or something of that nature. Will have to look it up. PA did mention this online at one point
 
AwakeningAlpha said:
I was using the terminology from the OP's title "5-AT, 7-OH, 7-Keto, 11-oxo, and other..." . Honestly not certain about which compounds. Just looking for advice for which is best cutter and cortisol management - and best source to find them. I knew Apex would be on that list...

I will check out Kronos / 11-KT. I personally have used AET-50 and it was amazing how fast cortisol dropped. Like within minutes of application.
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Nice! Glad it worked well for you.
 
AwakeningAlpha said:
I was using the terminology from the OP's title "5-AT, 7-OH, 7-Keto, 11-oxo, and other..." . Honestly not certain about which compounds. Just looking for advice for which is best cutter and cortisol management - and best source to find them. I knew Apex would be on that list...

I will check out Kronos / 11-KT. I personally have used AET-50 and it was amazing how fast cortisol dropped. Like within minutes of application.
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Been many years since I’ve used it, but even then Apex Kronos was definitely legit; they do a great job with transdermals so you won’t go wrong.

lanky said:
Transdermals that once had obvious white crystals and powder no longer have
There was actually a Canadian research or steroid company maybe 6 years ago that sold it as an oral tablet or capsule. They quickly got shut down. I think the product looked like an old anadrol packaging from the 80s or 90s. The product was called a-50 or a-100 or something of that nature. Will have to look it up. PA did mention this online at one point
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Thanks for sharing; that is really cool. Stuff like that always intrigues me from a novelty standpoint.
 
I always wanted to try oxyguno which was I believe the 11-oxo version of I believe methyl-clostebol/mechabol. Was around for a bit, but expensive , probably needed higher dose than most people ran.
 
Rockslide said:
I always wanted to try oxyguno which was I believe the 11-oxo version of I believe methyl-clostebol/mechabol. Was around for a bit, but expensive , probably needed higher dose than most people ran.
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Tried that designer back in 2006 or 2007 ish. Was a little underwhelmed based off the write up you thought it would be highly anabolic but in reality its activity was that of a 11hsd inhibitor. Maybe I was slightly more dry looking on it but it is probably one of those supplements kicks in very slowly like most 11hsd inhibitors. They were small blue oblong tablets that had a bitter flavor when you bite them. The packaging on the box/bottle and paper insert was top notch. Reminded me of a true high quality pharmaceutical packaging. To this day I do not know who was truly behind the company spectra force research
 
lanky said:
Tried that designer back in 2006 or 2007 ish. Was a little underwhelmed based off the write up you thought it would be highly anabolic but in reality its activity was that of a 11hsd inhibitor. Maybe I was slightly more dry looking on it but it is probably one of those supplements kicks in very slowly like most 11hsd inhibitors. They were small blue oblong tablets that had a bitter flavor when you bite them. The packaging on the box/bottle and paper insert was top notch. Reminded me of a true high quality pharmaceutical packaging. To this day I do not know who was truly behind the company spectra force research
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Just looking back on old stuff on it in the past I suspect that the reccomended dosing was just way below what actually needed to be dosed at. I want to say I saw something before on it being actually used as a PED in horses back in the day . Yeah I’ve seen pictures of their bottles. They also had a furaza product. That is another one I always wanted to try but didn’t get to .

Y’all remember PRO had an injectable 11-oxo-acetate oil. I remember someone saying it was good but horrible PIP
 
Rockslide said:
Just looking back on old stuff on it in the past I suspect that the reccomended dosing was just way below what actually needed to be dosed at. I want to say I saw something before on it being actually used as a PED in horses back in the day . Yeah I’ve seen pictures of their bottles. They also had a furaza product. That is another one I always wanted to try but didn’t get to .

Y’all remember PRO had an injectable 11-oxo-acetate oil. I remember someone saying it was good but horrible PIP
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Yes remember the injectable 11oxo but it was sold out very quick, never to be seen again.
 
Spectra force research had a product called furaguno witch was a 17b thp ether of furazabol instead of a 17a methyl, supposedly the tetrahydropyranol would cleave off in the gi tract. Was very mild but made you slightly more full and vascular. The tablets were a nice lime green color and slightly sweet smelling from the thp group
 
I think they were testing metabolites of oxyguno post release as a designer steroid on the horses. No sure. Probably from the ergogenics.org website you saw that from
 
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