4 WEEK BLAST CYCLE!! Test P/Tren A/TNE/Dbol/Anadrol

Yeah I know. I honestly (and this is no bash on Dave what so ever) think it has more to do with not letting the tren clear before starting PCT then anything. But like Dave said all along this was kind of a test so who knows. Like I said not bashing Dave at all because he is a smart dude but there are reasons people wait 4-6 weeks after 19 nors to start PCT. especially on a gram of tren a week lol
 
Danb2285 said:
Yeah I know. I honestly (and this is no bash on Dave what so ever) think it has more to do with not letting the tren clear before starting PCT then anything. But like Dave said all along this was kind of a test so who knows. Like I said not bashing Dave at all because he is a smart dude but there are reasons people wait 4-6 weeks after 19 nors to start PCT. especially on a gram of tren a week lol
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Lol yep. I don't consider that bashing. I learned a ton from this cycle and am learning my recovery process. I planned on self administering TRT protocol to myself spring 2014 anyways and a lot of this will come to play for blast/cruise on TRT dose. I just might get put on TRT now and its game on.

Regardless though the amount of info and what I learned about my bodies reaction is crazy. I can handle a gram of tren, I can let estrogen get to almost 300 without nipple sensitivity, TNE is the sh*t and there is so much more.
 
superbeast668 said:
Honest to god it's probably nothing to do with duration. Tren shuts your shït down hard.

I doubt there's difference between 2 weeks of tren suspension and 16 weeks of tren e or hex.

Also, this wasn't Dave's first cycle. You can't expect a full recovery every time. With every cycle done your negatively effecting total t numbers. Clo nolva and hcg aren't guarantees to bring your shït back.
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You are right. I would bet my life its just TREN keeping me shutdown. But this was totally just experimental and I figured I would share. I hope people learned from my experiences.
 
DangerDave said:
You are right. I would bet my life its just TREN keeping me shutdown. But this was totally just experimental and I figured I would share. I hope people learned from my experiences.
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This could work if you're on cruise and blast, or perma-cycle.

Under Dave's circumstance I wouldn't have chosen nandrolones for obvious reasons. Bold prop could work here, or perhaps masteron? Otherwise dbol would be a good choice IMO.

Have you kept any gains?
 
Captn_the said:
This could work if you're on cruise and blast, or perma-cycle.

Under Dave's circumstance I wouldn't have chosen nandrolones for obvious reasons. Bold prop could work here, or perhaps masteron? Otherwise dbol would be a good choice IMO.

Have you kept any gains?
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Yes I have kept around 8lbs and most of my strength. I will be experimenting more so you guys just wait
 
DangerDave said:
Saw my endo and had bloods drawn. I explained my dilemma downstairs and he prescribed viagra lol. Should get results and get a verdict today or latest tomorrow afternoon. I'm hoping for TRT. Next year I'm starting on my own TRT protocol regardless so being prescribed TRT would make it easier for blasting and cruising
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Was this an outcome you expected? Or are you going to a plan B now that you're not going to recover?

I assume you didn't intend to mess up your system so much you need to be on TRT, in your first posts you were talking about "light pct" and "VERY fast recovery". I'm hoping others don't follow your cycle footsteps and end up on TRT too.
 
Damorgs said:
Was this an outcome you expected? Or are you going to a plan B now that you're not going to recover?

I assume you didn't intend to mess up your system so much you need to be on TRT, in your first posts you were talking about "light pct" and "VERY fast recovery". I'm hoping others don't follow your cycle footsteps and end up on TRT too.
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I won't end up on TRT because of the cycle. I am trying to get on TRT while I'm still shutdown, its just an excuse. Hope that makes sense.

I will recover over time. My bloods came back and everything looks good BUT
Test- in the 300s
LH 1.2 low
FSH 3 low

Estrogen and prolactin are fine as well as my liver, thyroid and metabolism. I'm recovering just very slow.
 
DangerDave said:
I won't end up on TRT because of the cycle. I am trying to get on TRT while I'm still shutdown, its just an excuse. Hope that makes sense.

I will recover over time. My bloods came back and everything looks good BUT
Test- in the 300s
LH 1.2 low
FSH 3 low

Estrogen and prolactin are fine as well as my liver, thyroid and metabolism. I'm recovering just very slow.
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You need to jump on the peps bandwagon! :)
 
Captn_the said:
Can't complain about that. Going to post up some pics?

Looking into bridging with low - level insulin. Research Mike Arnold's protocols.
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Yeah I will. My roommates daughter thought my Kodak was a toy.. long story short it ended up in the bathtub. Should have a new one this week
 
madds87 said:
Hard work i already talked to you lol! You havent sarted yet?
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Not yet man in starting my cycle I've had planned in a week. After that I want to get some more info and then I planned on starting it when I start growth. I thought that might make the most sense, and I feel like I still don't know enough. I haven't read as much as I should have yet.
 
You really dont ever have to off of it... u can easily encorporate it into all cycles and off cycles
 
Sounds like CAX in 29stumps?

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I was told to seek out DangerDave. This thread was the first thing I found. AND IT"S AWESOME! I've only made it to page 5, but I had to jump to the end and say Thanks for all the information! The more I involve myself with this forum, the more I love it!.
 
It was a detailed and informative log, but it sounded Like the gear shut him down hard and the PCT sounded like it was only semi-successful.

This theory could work IMO, however you need to consider your gears. Nandrolones, especially tren are too suppressive - you'll be equally shut down at 4-5 weeks as you would 10-12.

Test and a mild oral like dbol would be a good option. Bold prop if you can get it?

I'm hoping the dude got to keep some gains.
 
Captn_the said:
It was a detailed and informative log, but it sounded Like the gear shut him down hard and the PCT sounded like it was only semi-successful.

This theory could work IMO, however you need to consider your gears. Nandrolones, especially tren are too suppressive - you'll be equally shut down at 4-5 weeks as you would 10-12.

Test and a mild oral like dbol would be a good option. Bold prop if you can get it?

I'm hoping the dude got to keep some gains.
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You are right that suppression is suppression but the theory behind it is that your body can adapt to the supra physiological levels of hormones in your system in around 4 weeks so the idea is "get in, blast the hormones, get out before your body adapts". Test, dbol and bold ace sounds like it could work quite nicely.
 
Lukef2000 said:
You are right that suppression is suppression but the theory behind it is that your body can adapt to the supra physiological levels of hormones in your system in around 4 weeks so the idea is "get in, blast the hormones, get out before your body adapts". Test, dbol and bold ace sounds like it could work quite nicely.
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Usually that adaption is at 8 weeks - that's why ppl increase their doses then to avoid plateauing.

This 4week mini-cycle would be a good idea blast and cruising, tied in heavy training and eating 4 weeks, bridge for 4 weeks at maintenance cals and higher rep sets, then blast another 4 weeks followed by pct or a 4 week bridge before pct.
 
I'm back from CAX in cali. My life has been crazy guys. I am going to get on this weekend and run a complete detailed update.

Cap'n you are right about suppression. And yes I did eventually recover.

I have kept most gains and am sitting around 200. I will get pics up after I buy a new camera this weekend after my last cameras horrible death.

I might even get some pics up of my man whoring exploits lol
 
DangerDave said:
I'm back from CAX in cali. My life has been crazy guys. I am going to get on this weekend and run a complete detailed update.

Cap'n you are right about suppression. And yes I did eventually recover.

I have kept most gains and am sitting around 200. I will get pics up after I buy a new camera this weekend after my last cameras horrible death.

I might even get some pics up of my man whoring exploits lol
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Welcome Back DD!
 
msrider said:
Welcome Back DD!
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Thanks man. They sent me out for training early. I show up to work thinking ok leaving the next week and they were like "go home grab your gear and be back in 6 hours, our flight leaves tonight". Gotta love military planning lol
 
Good to see you back. The discussion Is good in here. I really think this type of cycling may help people who have a problem with long cycling and shut down. It is completely user dependent though. My last cycle was about 13 weeks and the one before was 10 weeks and I recovered just over a week after starting pct. I don't have a problem with recovering so I think doing the longer cycles is more for my type.

Once again welcome back DD you've been missed sir.
 
Woo looking forward to the updates. Good to have you back, recovered and hear everything stuck!
 
Thanks guys I haves missed AM. I think this really could be a solution to people who have issues with long cycles. Keeping it to short metabolite aas would be best lol. I don't think a gram a week of tren leads to very good recovery in my experience Haha. But its possible. Takes awhile.

Updates and pics will blow your minds. I have some pretty awesome stuff to share.
 
hardwork25 said:
Can't wait for the stories man. Glad you're back bro.
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Thanks Bro. Missed all of you roided out mofos. And there is some biblical stories.... I'm heading out tonight for some hunting
 
So Dave what do u think about running tren a 100mg Ed and androl 100mg Ed for 4 weeks with just my trt dose of test. Or should I continue the tren out another 2-4 weeks after the Abombs. I always loss my appetite on tren. So 4 weeks I could Forsure eat big but on my last 8 weeker of tren i didn't really gain much after the first 3-4 weeks cause I had trouble eating. I did shred up those last 4 weeks. But for raw bulk seems like 4 weeks would be enough. Maybe follow the 4 weeks of tren/Abombs with 2 weeks if 200mg Tne Ed.
 
Just stumbled upon this... Wondering how the TNE treated you? Heard good things as a pre workout shot
 
PalmFist said:
Just stumbled upon this... Wondering how the TNE treated you? Heard good things as a pre workout shot
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TNE is awesome prework out. I normally only use it on leg day. 100mg it's intense. I've run one 6 week burst of 100mg Ed. It was good but after a couple of weeks I couldn't feel the "kick". But prework out 100mg of TNE & a redline turns Bruce banner into the Incredible Hulk!
 
csa2179 said:
TNE is awesome prework out. I normally only use it on leg day. 100mg it's intense. I've run one 6 week burst of 100mg Ed. It was good but after a couple of weeks I couldn't feel the "kick". But prework out 100mg of TNE & a redline turns Bruce banner into the Incredible Hulk!
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Damn, TNE and a Redline! I would probably murder someone if they got in my way at the gym... lol
 
I will add if ur going to run TNE only cycle and ur not on trt add in like 50mg of prop. It gives u a stable base.
 
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