combo!
Very interestingHmm Dirk, seems to be a lot of demand for the combo pack across the threads...
Yes :approve: Fun times ahead, then :dot:Very interesting
Put some clothes on Rosie, aren't you cold?Yes :approve: Fun times ahead, then :dot:
You mentioned something in another post about how 6-brad is superior to ATD and 6-OXO. Is this just something you got from practice and user reports or do you have more hardcore data to back it up?it was an extrapolation from existing data that I do have- there are some studies/info from similar substances (6-alpha/beta fluoro and chloro)- bromo is a halogenated androgen of similar characteristics to these compounds- I was basing it off of this- we are using a 50/50 alpha/beta racemic mix in the the product- 6-bromo honestly has very little information as far as published data.....
I don't get cold much, remember?Put some clothes on Rosie, aren't you cold?
Bump for more info about the differences 6-bromo "Vs" ATD or 6-OXOYou mentioned something in another post about how 6-brad is superior to ATD and 6-OXO. Is this just something you got from practice and user reports or do you have more hardcore data to back it up?
Not necessarily better- that would be foolishYou mentioned something in another post about how 6-brad is superior to ATD and 6-OXO. Is this just something you got from practice and user reports or do you have more hardcore data to back it up?
Not necessarily better- that would be foolish
All three compounds are very effective in their own right- to be honest- I picked 6-Bromo after careful consideration and based my choice out of a combination of personal preference, good user track record/feedback, relative avaliability, input from my partners, input from my reps and product development team, manufacturing feasibility, and I like some of the unique attributes of the molecule (dosage range, AR-interactive ability, electron arrangement, etc.).
The 3 compounds have some similarities- each molecule has an alteration on carbon 6 and no hydroxyl at 17, just an oxygen, ATD has a double bond at 6 (and also carbons 1 and 4), 6-Bromo has a bromination on the 6th carbon, and 6-Oxo has the addition of an oxygen at Carbon 6. Each structure allows for binding of aromatase- and this same alteration also allow them fairly poor binding ability to the AR (at least at low doses), making each of them minimally suppressive. But this is also why I like 6-bromo- versatility, and the alpha/beta isomers At low doses (50-100 mg/day)- the alpha seems to be non-suppressive (and I have see 0 evidence otherwise), and the beta will still work its magic on aromatase (quite well)- absolutely wonderful for pct, and even if used outside of pct, great for boosting sex drive, strength, lbm, etc......
As for ATD and 6-Oxo- ATD works great- 6-Oxo works great, but they are not my favorite choices b/c they don't fit into the conglemeration of factors that we took into consideration in choosing the compound...
thx CraigNicely put man, and totally agree AN is certianly a company that puts thought into ALL the products ingredients. Well done.
I got two gigantic bottles of 2nd Gear (or at least the capped formula) sitting in my desk right now (bout 500 caps)- had to figure out the production parameters- have to make sure you get your weights/speed/ratios correctSoooooooooo.... how many bottles of 2nd Gear you got stashed under the counter for us, D? lol
My pleasure man, I only speak the truth. Look forward to logging The One for you guys and doing you up a nice thorough log. I will also aim for bloods to be done as well. I will inquire at work this week regarding price to get this done etc.thx Craig
Bump on this from someone eager to try 2nd Gear...Can you tell us what sort of results (in terms of potential mass gain, strength increases, body comp changes, etc) one could expect from running 2nd gear as a natural anabolic at either the rec. dosages or an increased dosage? It looks like it could have interesting potential in this respect, especially if stacked with IGF-2 and Drive.
Thanks and keep up the amazing work on your product line.
ha-ha- white boxer (saw the cropped tail)? my brother in law has one that looks just like yours- or is he an AB?RMS I think you Cloned my dog.
i'd like to get just a big ziploc full^ good man.
2nd Gear solo could yield some decent results.
As Dirk said in another thread, 2nd GEAR, IGF-2, and Drive would be a mean natural stack on their own re muscle mass and strength gains.Bump on this from someone eager to try 2nd Gear...
He is boxer and American bulldog. When he is beside a boxer you can really see the size on him @ 110 lbs.ha-ha- white boxer (saw the cropped tail)? my brother in law has one that looks just like yours- or is he an AB?
mine are ABs, but they look real similar to boxers....pretty dog
thx- 110 lbs.? that is huge- Mugsy (the male) weighs about 90-95- he is a Johnson, but we got him from an animal rescue, so I have no idea of his lineage.....Bianca only weighs about 60- she is an old-style AB- genuine purebred- but not Scott or Johnson- you really only find the old-style AB's in the South.....He is boxer and American bulldog. When he is beside a boxer you can really see the size on him @ 110 lbs.
Looks like a Scott (sport) American.
Any way congrads the new products look ummy!
hit me up before your next rep order- think I can oblige- got a couple extra laying aroundi'd like to get just a big ziploc full
oddly enough, looking at the calendar it is that time again. february flew by.hit me up before your next rep order- think I can oblige- got a couple extra laying around
just e-mail me and remind me....oddly enough, looking at the calendar it is that time again. february flew by.
does your nipples hurt? if its just slight puffyness it should go away. If its painful to touch or your feeling lumps it might be something more serious.Hi, i am about one week off-cycle now. Was on 5 weeks, 3 caps/day. On almost the last day of week 5, i noticed getting puff nipples. So the day after i started 2nd gear. Should the 6-bromo that's in it, wich act for an AI be enough the get rid of the puffi nipples? Or should i run nolvadex with it?
Grtz
As Dave said, that slight puffiness will go away by itself.Hi, i am about one week off-cycle now. Was on 5 weeks, 3 caps/day. On almost the last day of week 5, i noticed getting puff nipples. So the day after i started 2nd gear. Should the 6-bromo that's in it, wich act for an AI be enough the get rid of the puffi nipples? Or should i run nolvadex with it?
Grtz
They don't hurt, aren't painful and i don't feel a lump behind it. I feel a small thing behind my nipple but i think it's normal that being there. My both nipples just pointing forwards, it's annoying..My 1st week in pct now, how lang before that would go away?does your nipples hurt? if its just slight puffyness it should go away. If its painful to touch or your feeling lumps it might be something more serious.
But if its not sore stop poking around :borladuck:
I hope so, and if not after 4 weeks pct?As Dave said, that slight puffiness will go away by itself.
It will. Just leave it alone.I hope so, and if not after 4 weeks pct?
Thanks already!
NO; indole-3-Carbinol is NOT tetrahydrocarbinol (i.e. they are not different names for the same product; they have different structures).I have been taking 2nd gear and I noticed this has indole-3-CARBINOL. Is this going to show up as tetrahydroCARBINOL in a drug test and the workplace?
Do you mean Tetrahydrocannabinol?I have been taking 2nd gear and I noticed this has indole-3-CARBINOL. Is this going to show up as tetrahydroCARBINOL in a drug test and the workplace?
I think he does (I hope)Do you mean Tetrahydrocannabinol?