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gregg1494 said:
I always see products say do not run longer then "some length of time" what are the negatives of running them longer then recommended?

If you run them to long you can cause a hormonal imbalance.
 
DJBeanPole said:
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For example OP, of you run Erase for to long you could crush your estrogen to much.
 
no more than 8 weeks with atleast 4 weeks off of it
 
No one can tell you what exactly will happen, but you run the risk and must accept whatever outcome. Don't go bitchin if you screw yourself up; more than likely you wont, but accept what you get if not following directions on bottle.

Mike
 
And with a test booster your test would cause estrogen to rise due to the test aromatasing?

in theory yes but how much estrogen will be elevated vs how much is reduced...you really wont know.....now a run like this would be interesting:
weeks 1-4 erase pro
4-8 eras pro, test booster
8-12 test booster
repeat......
 
And with a test booster your test would cause estrogen to rise due to the test aromatasing?

in theory yes but how much estrogen will be elevated vs how much is reduced...you really wont know.....now a run like this would be interesting:
weeks 1-4 erase pro
4-8 eras pro, test booster
8-12 test booster
repeat......
 
Anytime you push your body's chemistry away from where its "normal" range is, it is going to push back. The 4 week and 8 week recommendations that you see are a general rule since not everybody is the same. Anything further is really at your own risk and those users that have been taking a product for a long time and get bloods drawn and know their body can adjust that range, but it takes a lot of work and experience.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Anytime you push your body's chemistry away from where its "normal" range is, it is going to push back. The 4 week and 8 week recommendations that you see are a general rule since not everybody is the same. Anything further is really at your own risk and those users that have been taking a product for a long time and get bloods drawn and know their body can adjust that range, but it takes a lot of work and experience.

Good answer. Going past the recommended length you can do but getting your blood drawn and knowing your body would be optimal. 8 weeks seems to be rule of thumb, also anything past that I don't see a reason why?
 
True. It's not always a matter of causing harm. Sometimes your body just gets used to exogenous influences as well and you are simply wasting your money by not letting things settle back to normal.
 
gregg1494 said:
I always see products say do not run longer then "some length of time" what are the negatives of running them longer then recommended?

Death, dismemberment, or brain degeneration.

Wait, what is the question pertaining too?
 
jbryand101b said:
Death, dismemberment, or brain degeneration.

Wait, what is the question pertaining too?

Accidental death and dismemberment or standard? makes a difference on my life insurance is why i ask.
 
If you run them to long you can cause a hormonal imbalance.

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For example OP, of you run Erase for to long you could crush your estrogen to much.

You do know that the Supplement mentioned is a Suicidal AI right? And its function is to modulate and lets say control the conversion of Testosterone to Estrogen by inhibiting the Aromatize enzyme right?...It does not literally "crush" your estrogen...merely avoids any "spillovers" from too much test converting to it, and it many individuals-like myself-who have high estrogen usually, it is able to tone it down right?
 
You do know that the Supplement mentioned is a Suicidal AI right? And its function is to modulate and lets say control the conversion of Testosterone to Estrogen by inhibiting the Aromatize enzyme right?...It does not literally "crush" your estrogen...merely avoids any "spillovers" from too much test converting to it, and it many individuals-like myself-who have high estrogen usually, it is able to tone it down right?

I feel like if I take 3 caps it legit crushes it. I cant get my buddy up. idk just personal exp. Stuff is really strong.
 
I feel like if I take 3 caps it legit crushes it. I cant get my buddy up. idk just personal exp. Stuff is really strong.

Wow that is really weird...I remember my run with Erase, 2 caps AM and 1 PM and I had a solid Good Morning wood every single day, and my Woody would get up at command when needed...It also proved a bit uncomfortable to workout near women that are extremely well built to satisfy the male pupil.
 
I feel like if I take 3 caps it legit crushes it. I cant get my buddy up. idk just personal exp. Stuff is really strong.

erase and EP and most OTC AI don't crush mine and kill libido (nor do many Rx AI for that matter at average doses), but letro at 2.5 per day sure does (just ask me right now) :D...crushing estrogen is good for a minute if you are looking to "crush gyno" though....that being said, its always a good idea to cycle AI's and everything else hormonal, actually pretty much anything other than essential daily supplements like EPA, vitamins/minerals, fiber, etc..... things are bound to get out of whack, or rebound, and there will be a point of diminishing returns sometimes as well...
 
I like taking big stacks 8 weeks on, 6-8 weeks off.

Only AI that killed my libido is Formestane.
 
I like taking big stacks 8 weeks on, 6-8 weeks off.

Only AI that killed my libido is Formestane.

I used formastanzol before, but only about 5 pumps or 4 pumps twice a day and don't think it affected me like that...will bump up to 8 and 8 pumps next time...I'll have to keep an eye on it :D
 
I used formastanzol before, but only about 5 pumps or 4 pumps twice a day and don't think it affected me like that...will bump up to 8 and 8 pumps next time...I'll have to keep an eye on it :D
I used it up until last week for 10 pumps am 10 PM because I got word that the carrier was so bad that the actual formastane you were getting out of it was less than 100mg at 10 pumps. My Woody Wood Pecker was still poking around at full power and optimum sensibility. It even rose every single morning to say hello.
 
I used it up until last week for 10 pumps am 10 PM because I got word that the carrier was so bad that the actual formastane you were getting out of it was less than 100mg at 10 pumps. My Woody Wood Pecker was still poking around at full power and optimum sensibility. It even rose every single morning to say hello.

yeah remember that thread? tyga I think said it? maybe maybe not....but did you see formastane like results at 10 + 10? or did it actually suck as a forma product? :D I got 2 bottles so its gettin' run either way, but curious about what you saw esp since you weren't running anything PH or DS or AAS with it...so you'd know whats going on and be able to gauge it.
 
yeah remember that thread? tyga I think said it? maybe maybe not....but did you see formastane like results at 10 + 10? or did it actually suck as a forma product? :D I got 2 bottles so its gettin' run either way, but curious about what you saw esp since you weren't running anything PH or DS or AAS with it...so you'd know whats going on and be able to gauge it.

It stopped the Prolactin from DAA I had gotten, I could squeeze me nips as hard as I could and no liquid would come out. Furthermore It worked a tiny bit as "spot reduction" for the chest...Yet I have to admit I used it for a bit at 5+5 and 6+6 and it was SH1T! Like literal SH1T! I had to mega dose to get some effects. I'll try Formasurge next time, for all I read the carrier is way better.
 
It stopped the Prolactin from DAA I had gotten, I could squeeze me nips as hard as I could and no liquid would come out. Furthermore It worked a tiny bit as "spot reduction" for the chest...Yet I have to admit I used it for a bit at 5+5 and 6+6 and it was SH1T! Like literal SH1T! I had to mega dose to get some effects. I'll try Formasurge next time, for all I read the carrier is way better.

yeah that is why I'm gonna go with 8 + 8....so it will work right :D....like I said i got two bottles for pretty cheap on sale, so no big deal having to dose it higher. I was gonna go with formeron this time, but I had these formastanzol from before...so I'll run 'em. with the ABv3 (4DHEA and 19-nor combo) and SD (also started on androgel, but that is so low dose I don't think I'll see any estrogen from it, probably just DHT) I figure something doing double duty for prolactin and estrogen would be the best bet. its proposed forma does a bit of both.
 
yeah that is why I'm gonna go with 8 + 8....so it will work right :D....like I said i got two bottles for pretty cheap on sale, so no big deal having to dose it higher. I was gonna go with formeron this time, but I had these formastanzol from before...so I'll run 'em. with the ABv3 (4DHEA and 19-nor combo) and SD (also started on androgel, but that is so low dose I don't think I'll see any estrogen from it, probably just DHT) I figure something doing double duty for prolactin and estrogen would be the best bet. its proposed forma does a bit of both.

It should work fine at higher doses. That said, use Forearms to rub it on the chest and core. Main reason is that you loose too much on the hands as it is thicker skin...forearms (wrists I mean) being vascular and thin-skinned absorb the "losses" that you would have with the palms of your hands. Not to mention it yields SICK pumps hahaha.
 
It should work fine at higher doses. That said, use Forearms to rub it on the chest and core. Main reason is that you loose too much on the hands as it is thicker skin...forearms (wrists I mean) being vascular and thin-skinned absorb the "losses" that you would have with the palms of your hands. Not to mention it yields SICK pumps hahaha.

yeah for sure, I did that with trenazone...it was burning the fck out of my neck and upper chest area....I tapped out after week three (I held on for a long while lol) and started applying it to forearms (the insides) and wrists....just rubbed it in those areas....didn't even bother irritating my chest or neck anymore. it was intense burning for 20 minutes or more, like I've never experienced before. makes the topical fat burners that burn like a mofo look like bitches :D
 
i've been telling people to apply topicals like that forever, good to see people finally catching on. hand application is out dated. unless your applying to your balls that is. kinda hard to get the forearms down there.
 
i've been telling people to apply topicals like that forever, good to see people finally catching on. hand application is out dated. unless your applying to your balls that is. kinda hard to get the forearms down there.

yeah this ahole ^^^ is the one that suggested it to me many months ago....I was thinking of citing my source, but said Fck it I'm tired :D....
 
A lot of these products also lose effectivness after a certain length of time, so you would just be wasting money.
 
Wow that is really weird...I remember my run with Erase, 2 caps AM and 1 PM and I had a solid Good Morning wood every single day, and my Woody would get up at command when needed...It also proved a bit uncomfortable to workout near women that are extremely well built to satisfy the male pupil.

I think morning wood has absolutely nothing to do with libido
 
I think morning wood has absolutely nothing to do with libido

More with blood flow, agreed. Though in this case I can really attribute it to real lucid horny dreams I would be awakened from in the AM. In this case, I can positively say it was libido still active.
 
Hdrol says take no mire than 30 days and most go 6-8 weeks..its call CYA man!!! Thats we these companies are doing...

The fact that I quoted him and we began a discussion for it (Warbird and the rest) does not mean he was wrong. True he might have been a bit off on its interactions, but it is indeed right to limit its use from 4-8 weeks and then a break from 4-6 weeks. The main reason is Homeostasis...you want it to go back to normal...that said just remember you are interacting with your hormones, and while this supplements are natural and safe...why play it on the risky side of the blade?
 
Celorza said:
The fact that I quoted him and we began a discussion for it (Warbird and the rest) does not mean he was wrong. True he might have been a bit off on its interactions, but it is indeed right to limit its use from 4-8 weeks and then a break from 4-6 weeks. The main reason is Homeostasis...you want it to go back to normal...that said just remember you are interacting with your hormones, and while this supplements are natural and safe...why play it on the risky side of the blade?

Exactly. You run risks when not following directions of what it says on the bottle.
 
Hdrol says take no mire than 30 days and most go 6-8 weeks..its call CYA man!!! Thats we these companies are doing...

Does anybody actually read what it says on the side of a prohormone bottle like Hdrol lol? People are going to do what they want to do. It's not about CYA. It's about a general rule since everybody is different. You just really need to know your body when taking compounds that modulate hormone levels to any extent. Once you know how you personally respond, you can do what dose is right for you. That's why it is always so frustrating when I see people posting that they have never run anything and want to jump into some extensive cycle using 3 or 4 different things.
 
I've been running Intimidate for the last 6 months... I tripped over my balls this morning and broke my wrist. Thankfully it was my "special" arm, so 6 weeks in a cast should allow just enough atrophy so that my arms will look even again. The massive testosterone spike caused by prolonged use of Intimidate resulted in "excessive" masturbation... I guess this was just my body's way of reaching homeostasis. At least I'll be able to wear blue jeans again soon...
 
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