2 DAYS ON RECREATE/PWFULL/AP-feeling like an alpha FE-MALE !!!

What about you Volcom, do you get parasthesia from bulk BA as well ?


RANT

I walk in the local Supplement Store to make use of all the birthday vouchers I got from my friends (they know me all to well :rolleyes:)

Paul (the owner): Oh, I got BAD news for you, REAL BAD !

Me: You won't sell me anymore BA 'cause the other customers are complaining there's not enough left ? :p

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Me: That is not funny Paul Invalid Link Removed

Paul: I'm not joking ! :sad:

Me: NOT HAPPY ! TIME TO FIND ANOTHER LAIR !!!
 

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Invalid Link RemovedWARNING-DRAGONFLY'S LECTURE IN PROCEEDINGS Invalid Link Removed

TO ALL OF YOU INTERESTED IN CUTTING THIS IS A MUST READ ! Invalid Link Removed

* There is a reason why:

1) I hate estrogen
2) Love its counterpart T
3) Take special care of my liver
4) Love Yohimbe

It is called:


STUBBORN FAT Invalid Link Removed


I will here cover the following:

1. What exactly is stubborn fat
2. What causes it
3. How to prevent and get rid of it​

* If you want to solve the problem you need to know the root of the problem, so let’s get started Invalid Link Removed


WHAT IS STUBBOR FAT ? Invalid Link Removed

* Stubborn fat is a slow-metabolized fat tissue. When a fat-burning process is activated, the adrenal hormones (adrenaline and noradrenaline) bind to special receptors in the fat tissues. There are two major groups of receptors in the fat tissues, alpha and beta. The beta-receptors are the ones which respond to the adrenal hormones and are therefore responsible for fat burning, in other words- if beta receptors are not activated, no fat will burn off. In contrast, alpha receptors are antagonistic to fat burning.

* Stubborn fat has a lower ratio of beta-receptors to alpha-receptors. Therefore, due to inhibitory effect of alpha receptors on fat burning, it is metabolized slowly and does not respond to the adrenal hormones. You can diet all you want, you can do cardio until you Invalid Link Removed, you can take thermogenics that will blow your heart, won’t make a tiny bit of difference if your beta receptors remain inactive. But wait, there is more bad news! Stubborn fat has also more estrogen receptors in the tissues. Estrogen once bound to the receptors, promotes the growth of estrogen-sensitive fat tissue and therefore causes even more fat gain.


WHAT CAUSES STUBBORN FAT? Invalid Link Removed

* Obviously, over-consumption of carbohydrates- especially sugar and overly-processed, refined carbs - places pressure on the pancreas to overproduce insulin in order to lower the blood sugar level. Hyperinsulinemia then causes insulin insensitivity. When this happens, the body converts these extra carbohydrates into triglycerides and fat.

*Deficiencies in : B vitamins, chromium, magnesium, zinc, and Omega 3 essential fatty acid (alpha-linolenic acid) – contributes to insulin insensitivity.

* Protein deficiencies. Lysine, abundant in animal proteins but less so in grains, converts in our bodies to L-carnitine. L-carnitine is an amino acid essential for the fat-burning process (increases the transportation of FFAs into the mitochondria and enhances fat oxidation)

*Breakdown of testosterone– through a process called aromatazing. Fat tissues produce aromataze enzymes and therefore accelerate the aromatazing action, which converts testosterone into estrogen.

*Chronic stress, liver congestion, low thyroid, vascular permeability, and exhausted adrenals may all make the stubborn-fat syndrome even worse for both men and women.


HOW TO PREVENT STUBBORN FAT :duel:


* :nono: crash diets or diets that cause you to lose fat and gain it back again. Second-generation fat is more stubborn than the first.

* Avoid consuming foods that have estrogen-mimicking properties: soy, licorice, clover. Also, avoid over consumption of omega-6 oils (corn, canola), these tend to have estrogenic properties if they are not adequately balanced with omega-3’s.

*Drink pure, filtered water. Don't drink or cook with tap water that is unfiltered.

*Minimize the purchase, consumption, and storage of food, water, and other beverages or liquids that are wrapped or bottled in plastic (particularly soft plastic bottles and containers). If the food or liquid smells like plastic, stay away from it. Certain compounds found in plastic are highly estrogenic and also carcinogenic.

*Eat organic food as much as possible, non-organic produce is full of estrogen-mimickers such as fertilizers, pesticides and herbicides and hormones. Plus, toxic chemicals put too much stress on the liver. Why is liver important ? Because it breaks down estrogenic substances. On that note:

*A WORD ON :drunk: Excessive alcohol compromises liver's ability to break down and detoxify estrogenic derivatives. When not broken down and detoxified, these estrogenic toxins penetrate the blood and cause unpleasant symptoms like bloating, water retention, and stubborn-fat gain. If these toxins accumulate, they may cause chronic diseases and cancer.

*Control your insulin by minimizing consumption of insulin-spiking carbs Invalid Link Removed (they are really only needed post workout, and keep it clean !!!)

*Exercise ! :rolleyes:


HOW TO GET RID OF STUBBORN FAT Invalid Link Removed

* Load on estrogen blockers and anti-aromataze inhibitors
Most powerful compounds are found in cruciferous vegetables (indoles), chamomile (flavone apigenin), passion flower (flavone chrysin), onion&garlic (flavone quercetin), citrus fruits (citrus bioflavonoids), curry (curcumin), red grapes (resveratrol), omega-3 oils (flax, hemp, fish), CLA

* Help your liver by supplementing with: Milk Thistle, Dandelion & SAM
Adenosylemethionine (SAM) is a relatively new supplement. Its primary function is to alleviate depression; however, it can also be very useful for liver detoxification, especially for those who suffer from estrogen-related toxicity.

* Supplement with Yohimbe
Yohimbe is an alpha-2-adrenergenic antagonist, it blocks alpha-receptors on fat cells. By blocking alpha-receptors, yohimbe makes stubborn fat more responsive beta receptor activation and thus adrenal hormone-induced fat burning. However, those who suffer from high blood pressure, heart conditions, or thyroid problems should avoid yohimbe.
 
A SPECIAL WORD ON LIVER

(this is an old post of mine)

The most effective and most ignored fatloss/muscle building strategy – ditch the junk !! :dump:

* Yes, you’ve heard it many times before and it is almost borderline boring to repeat it but “junk in equals junk out” and “you are what you eat” . Do you even understand the concept of eating clean ? Congratulations if you do, but most people only think they do. OK, to cut it short, the list of clean foods does not include whey protein powders, pre-workout drink powders, low fat milk, whole grain bread, pasta, high protein meal-replacement bars…do you get it ? Anything that is man-made is artificial. Artificial foods contain synthetic junk, colours, preservatives, stabilizers, flavour-enhancers, emulsifiers and all sorts of stuff that our bodies are not able to process. The list extends further to non-organic produce that is contaminated with pesticides and herbicides. The liver is capable of breaking down this crap only to a certain point. If there is an overload of junk that the liver can’t handle, it gets stored. And guess where it gets stored ? You’ve heard the potential risk of chemical poisoning by over-consumption of fat fish or fish oil. Yes, the omega-3s that come in fish oils are indeed beneficial, but not if they come with the spice of mercury or PCBs. You’ve guessed right, toxic junk that can’t get disposed off gets stored in adipose tissue, aka bodyfat, cottage cheese lumps, belly flab, whatever you want to call it. One reason why this happens is because a lot of toxic compounds are lipophilic (or in common terms - have high affinity for fat/fat soluble). If you are eating junk, the body has no reason to burn the fat. It is holding onto it, it needs it as a rubbish bin. Obviously not all toxic compounds are fat soluble, however, they can still hinder your fatloss and muscle building progress. The reason is dead simple, if the liver is too busy breaking down toxins, then it can’t efficiently perform its other major duties, namely protein synthesis and fat oxidation (“burning”).

* Avoiding all contaminants and toxins is practically impossible but sure as hell you can minimize your exposure to them. To do this requires a lifestyle change and that is hard and can also be very time consuming. Nevertheless, mediocre effort produces mediocre results, if you’re happy with that fine, if you’re not, have a look at your pre-workout drink and the list of ingredients. You may find something like this:

Nitro-Fuel-Fusion: 4.05g
(Di-L-Arginine-L-Malate, Arginine-AKG, Phytic Acid, L-Citrulline-Malate, L-Norvaline)
Tricreatine-Fusion: 4.00 g
(Dicreatine-Malate, Monocreatine-Malate, Creatine Anhydrous)
Gluta-Sorp / NAGTM Matrix: 2.00 g
(N-Acetyl-L-Glutamine, Fermented L-Glutamine)


Other Ingredients:
Natural and Artificial Flavors, Aspartame, Acesulfame-K, F.D. & C. Colors (Red No. 40 and Yellow No.5).
:wtf: ??!!!

The "other ingredients" CONTRIBUTE NOTHING TO MUSCLE BUILDING OR FAT LOSS, THEY ARE PURE AND UTTER JUNK AND YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT !!!!!Your favourite whey protein powder, cookies and cream flavour ?, Hmmm, ever wondered how they managed to do that ?! Sorry, but there is no natural way that tuna or egg whites or pure whey for that matter, will ever taste like cookies and cream. Yes, I know, we are all humans and we cannot exist on celery sticks, rice and egg whites 6X a day. I’m not saying, ditch your favourite whey powder just use it sparingly or investigate better alternatives. Don’t ditch your favourite supplements either, however, do not base your muscle building/fatloss quest upon them. They will only work if everything else is in order. In the end, do not take my word for anything, I’m just a mad scientist angry at the world :saw:. Few of us out there and some of our “angry talk” even gets published:

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EDIT:

I really wasn't intending on lecturing anybody, some of the things I put out are common knowledge. Had to remind myself though, of all that is important in order to achieve my goals. No taking shortcuts - if I want to be the best I can, I got to give it my best :D

If anyone has anything to add, please do so :)
 
A SPECIAL WORD ON LIVER

(this is an old post of mine)

The most effective and most ignored fatloss/muscle building strategy – ditch the junk !! :dump:

* Yes, you’ve heard it many times before and it is almost borderline boring to repeat it but “junk in equals junk out” and “you are what you eat” . Do you even understand the concept of eating clean ? Congratulations if you do, but most people only think they do. OK, to cut it short, the list of clean foods does not include whey protein powders, pre-workout drink powders, low fat milk, whole grain bread, pasta, high protein meal-replacement bars…do you get it ? Anything that is man-made is artificial. Artificial foods contain synthetic junk, colours, preservatives, stabilizers, flavour-enhancers, emulsifiers and all sorts of stuff that our bodies are not able to process. The list extends further to non-organic produce that is contaminated with pesticides and herbicides. The liver is capable of breaking down this crap only to a certain point. If there is an overload of junk that the liver can’t handle, it gets stored. And guess where it gets stored ? You’ve heard the potential risk of chemical poisoning by over-consumption of fat fish or fish oil. Yes, the omega-3s that come in fish oils are indeed beneficial, but not if they come with the spice of mercury or PCBs. You’ve guessed right, toxic junk that can’t get disposed off gets stored in adipose tissue, aka bodyfat, cottage cheese lumps, belly flab, whatever you want to call it. One reason why this happens is because a lot of toxic compounds are lipophilic (or in common terms - have high affinity for fat/fat soluble). If you are eating junk, the body has no reason to burn the fat. It is holding onto it, it needs it as a rubbish bin. Obviously not all toxic compounds are fat soluble, however, they can still hinder your fatloss and muscle building progress. The reason is dead simple, if the liver is too busy breaking down toxins, then it can’t efficiently perform its other major duties, namely protein synthesis and fat oxidation (“burning”).

* Avoiding all contaminants and toxins is practically impossible but sure as hell you can minimize your exposure to them. To do this requires a lifestyle change and that is hard and can also be very time consuming. Nevertheless, mediocre effort produces mediocre results, if you’re happy with that fine, if you’re not, have a look at your pre-workout drink and the list of ingredients. You may find something like this:

Nitro-Fuel-Fusion: 4.05g
(Di-L-Arginine-L-Malate, Arginine-AKG, Phytic Acid, L-Citrulline-Malate, L-Norvaline)
Tricreatine-Fusion: 4.00 g
(Dicreatine-Malate, Monocreatine-Malate, Creatine Anhydrous)
Gluta-Sorp / NAGTM Matrix: 2.00 g
(N-Acetyl-L-Glutamine, Fermented L-Glutamine)


Other Ingredients:
Natural and Artificial Flavors, Aspartame, Acesulfame-K, F.D. & C. Colors (Red No. 40 and Yellow No.5).
:wtf: ??!!!

The "other ingredients" CONTRIBUTE NOTHING TO MUSCLE BUILDING OR FAT LOSS, THEY ARE PURE AND UTTER JUNK AND YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT !!!!!Your favourite whey protein powder, cookies and cream flavour ?, Hmmm, ever wondered how they managed to do that ?! Sorry, but there is no natural way that tuna or egg whites or pure whey for that matter, will ever taste like cookies and cream. Yes, I know, we are all humans and we cannot exist on celery sticks, rice and egg whites 6X a day. I’m not saying, ditch your favourite whey powder just use it sparingly or investigate better alternatives. Don’t ditch your favourite supplements either, however, do not base your muscle building/fatloss quest upon them. They will only work if everything else is in order. In the end, do not take my word for anything, I’m just a mad scientist angry at the world :saw:. Few of us out there and some of our “angry talk” even gets published:

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Have you used Jacked, DF?
 
No Mullet but I'm using Y-RD caps :thumbsup: + bulk BAlanine + Nimbus SWELL: Poseidon complex + AAKG + Cit. Malate + BAlanine + L-leucine

Got 5x90 caps of Y-RD to go through before I can justify trying out Jacked :o
 
Yes it did and since I picked a couple of bottles of PWFULL for myself and a friend of mine (+ other stuff), I scored a real Y-RD treat.


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DAY 123


* 1hr45min run, moderate intensity+sprint intervals

* ENERGY&ENDURANCE Invalid Link Removed

* Yohimbe is definitely doing something I swear. :woohoo:

*All of the long distance runs in the last 2 weeks have been done on empty and on these cardio days I am keeping my carbs to a bare minimum Invalid Link Removed.

*Plus, I'm not taking any BCAAs, glutamine or BAlanine prior running and yet I have the energy blast of an atomic bomb...hm bad description, 'cause this is looooong lasting :D

*Both intensity&duration of the runs have been steadily increasing and also, I do not feel any hypoglycaemia or hunger creeping on me up to 20min after running. To me this indicates stubborn fat is finally getting the burn it deserves ! Invalid Link Removed

*Only time will tell, and progress pics ! :p



DAY 124


* Unusual time for a training session for me, early afternoon.
I tried to carb up prior workout with a bit of help from p-Slin.

* I was running late though and didn't consume enough carbs which caused sever hypoglycaemia during a workout. Not fun :frustrate Also, I've been feeling REALLY DOWN since the start of the day for various reasons :sad: :ntome: so that was double the - not - fun :frustrate :rant:

HIT CHEST& BIS

*Bench was rather pathetic Invalid Link Removed

* I was struggling Invalid Link Removed with 100lb working sets, 3 x 8 reps, I needed a spotter to help me out.

* My PR on the bench was 105lb for 6 reps and I have only just started transitioning from hypertrophy to strength, so I guess I shouldn't be too disappointed...but I still am :ntome:

* Anyways, BIS saved the day, hit a new PR : 100lb on cable curls, 10lb increase Invalid Link Removed
So, let me get this right :think: curling 100lb was apparently easier today than benching 100lb :fool2: :lol:

* Surprises didn't end there though-
I did a superset of :
1. Hammer DB Curls &
2. Reverse Grip Tricep Pulldown​

* I used 2 x 27.5lb DB for the H Curls (instead of 2 x 22.lb) , finally !!!!! :woohoo:

...and

working sets for Reverse Grip Pulldowns were:

* 110lb, 121lb, 130lb: 6-8 reps

warmup was done with

* 90lb, 99lb 12&10 reps and that was a total waste of time :rolleyes:

To put it in perspective, last time (2 weeks ago), this exact superset was done with 90lbs working weight and I had no desire to increase it any further :rofl:

* From 90lb to 130lb .... guess the forearms are getting STRONGER :twisted: :D
 
ALMOST FORGOT....

Think I'm beginning to experience some other Prime-side effects :bb3:
WANNA FLEX ALL DAY LONG :head: :lol:
 

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DAY 123


* 1hr45min run, moderate intensity+sprint intervals

* ENERGY&ENDURANCE Invalid Link Removed

* Yohimbe is definitely doing something I swear. :woohoo:

*All of the long distance runs in the last 2 weeks have been done on empty and on these cardio days I am keeping my carbs to a bare minimum Invalid Link Removed.

*Plus, I'm not taking any BCAAs, glutamine or BAlanine prior running and yet I have the energy blast of an atomic bomb...hm bad description, 'cause this is looooong lasting :D

*Both intensity&duration of the runs have been steadily increasing and also, I do not feel any hypoglycaemia or hunger creeping on me up to 20min after running. To me this indicates stubborn fat is finally getting the burn it deserves ! Invalid Link Removed

*Only time will tell, and progress pics ! :p



DAY 124


* Unusual time for a training session for me, early afternoon.
I tried to carb up prior workout with a bit of help from p-Slin.

* I was running late though and didn't consume enough carbs which caused sever hypoglycaemia during a workout. Not fun :frustrate Also, I've been feeling REALLY DOWN since the start of the day for various reasons :sad: :ntome: so that was double the - not - fun :frustrate :rant:

HIT CHEST& BIS

*Bench was rather pathetic Invalid Link Removed

* I was struggling Invalid Link Removed with 100lb working sets, 3 x 8 reps, I needed a spotter to help me out.

* My PR on the bench was 105lb for 6 reps and I have only just started transitioning from hypertrophy to strength, so I guess I shouldn't be too disappointed...but I still am :ntome:

* Anyways, BIS saved the day, hit a new PR : 100lb on cable curls, 10lb increase Invalid Link Removed
So, let me get this right :think: curling 100lb was apparently easier today than benching 100lb :fool2: :lol:

* Surprises didn't end there though-
I did a superset of :
1. Hammer DB Curls &
2. Reverse Grip Tricep Pulldown​

* I used 2 x 27.5lb DB for the H Curls (instead of 2 x 22.lb) , finally !!!!! :woohoo:

...and

working sets for Reverse Grip Pulldowns were:

* 110lb, 121lb, 130lb: 6-8 reps

warmup was done with

* 90lb, 99lb 12&10 reps and that was a total waste of time :rolleyes:

To put it in perspective, last time (2 weeks ago), this exact superset was done with 90lbs working weight and I had no desire to increase it any further :rofl:

* From 90lb to 130lb .... guess the forearms are getting STRONGER :twisted: :D


You never cease to amaze me, great workouts again, awesome!
 
BTW thanks for the new set of screen savers, i have a nice selection now...
 
Yeah Russian, all those Dragons are pretty cool! :p

Yesterday’s workout wasn’t all that amazing save for the fact that I figured my Bis and forearms are much stronger than my chest :lol:

Today’s however….

OFFIALLY OPENING THE BIG LIFTS DAY Invalid Link Removed :head:


DAY 124


* After weeks and weeks and weeks :yawn: of hypertrophy I decided to have a proper MAX OUT workout – yep, you guessed right :dl:

* It probably wasn’t the best idea because:
1. I felt a bit lethargic during the day due to lack of sleep last night Invalid Link Removed
2. Legs were buggered from all the running, I still felt soreness in my quads&hams :eek:

* I had a small protein shake + nuts + flaxseed meal + 2 caps Prime for breakfast 8:30AM
* I had lunch consisting of can of salmon + 1 boiled egg + olives + salad + 1caps Prime at 1PM

I KNOW, I KNOW, horribly little food :nono: but it was all on purpose ;)

* 40min prior WO 4:30PM
1Rhodiola + 1Q10 + 1Astaxanthin + 1Resveratrol + 2 CissusRX

* 30min prior WO
cup of coffee + coconut cream + organic cocoa powder + handful of nuts + 1Prime

* 10min Prior WO
3 PWFULL
1 Anabolic Pump (thanks for the insight Mullet! :thumbsup: )
2 Y-RD
2 Yohimbe

* All that whilst sipping down ½ of my WO shake
20g BCAA
15g Glutamine
5g ALCAR
10g BAlanine
15g Nimbus SWELL

* Immediately post workout
15g BCAA
10g glutamine
5g ALCAR
400-600mg P-slin

* 10min post WO
60g WPI(70%)/Dextrose mix(30%)
Mixed berries 1/2cup
Oats (?) don’t know, overloaded :D
Powdered Cinnamon

* Never felt hypo during the workout: AP + Yohimbe on fasted protocol :thumbsup:

* Some SERIOUS ENERGY must have been LIBERATED ! Invalid Link Removed :lol:

* Enough Invalid Link Removed let’s see some numbers:

1. Narrow Grip Pulldowns superset with
2. Military Press


1. 100lb 8
2. 53lb 8

1. 121lb 6
2. 64lb 6

1. 130lb 4
2. 72lb 4

1. 141lb 3 NEW PR ! + 11lb
2. 77lb 2 NEW PR ! + 5lb

1. 141lb 3/3 AND AGAIN !!!!
2. 72lb 3/3

* Max I ever done on pulldowns before was 3 sets at 130lb, 3 reps each (on 7th of November, almost 2 months ago - before embarking on hypertrophy routine), so to be able to literally pull down 3 sets at 141lb in my first MAX OUT attempt was PRETTY AWESOME !!!!!!!!! :woohoo: Invalid Link Removed

3. Cable crunches (use these to warmup abs, all sets 141lb 8 reps) superset
4. Deadlifts


Deads
*121lb 8

*149lb 5
*171lb 3
*181.5lb 3 NEW PR (old PR, 179lb 2 reps, soo, 2.5lb increase + 1 extra rep, lame, I can do better than that :twisted:)
*187lb 2 NEW PR (8lb increase, I'm happy now Invalid Link Removed)
*176lb 3/3
*171lb 4
*154lb 6 that felt RIDICULOUSLY LIGHT :rolleyes:

*Previous PR on Deads was LONG time ago, 15th of November and, back then, I did Deads as a first exercise. As of today, I am lifting ~1.5x my body weight and I'm hoping to get that up to 2x in the near future :twisted:



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* PWFULL: Noticing TOLERANCE, effects are MUCH BETTER after taking 3 FULL DAYS OFF

* PRIME: MORE IS BETTER :D In my experience, for optimal results (as previously suggested by both Mullet&Strat), it is NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN CELLULAR CONCENTRATIONS OF THE ACTIVES by NOT taking days OFF PRIME.

Evidence ?
First : After 2 consecutive days off – aggression & drive are diminished and weight lifted does not seem easier (there is no :fool2: desire to keep adding plates, set after set, :lol:)
Second: Consecutive workouts thereafter keep getting better because of continued Prime supplementation (actives build up)​

* On that note, I shall continue with the following protocol:
WEIGHT TRAINING DAYS: 6caps Prime
REST/CARDIO DAYS: 3caps Prime


OVERALL WORKOUT NOTES:

BY FAR TODAY’S WORKOUT WAS ONE OF THE BEST I EVER HAD ! :head: :hammer:Invalid Link Removed

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* Energy – sky high !!! Invalid Link Removed
* Perception of weight – real skewed ! Invalid Link Removed
* Aggression – Felt like some kind of monster !!!!!!!!!!!
 

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interesting Prime observations...unfortunately this will severely tax your stash!

..like your superset combos too :thumbsup:
 
Yeah Russian, all those Dragons are pretty cool! :p

Yesterday’s workout wasn’t all that amazing save for the fact that I figured my Bis and forearms are much stronger than my chest :lol:

Today’s however….

OFFIALLY OPENING THE BIG LIFTS DAY Invalid Link Removed :head:


DAY 124


* After weeks and weeks and weeks :yawn: of hypertrophy I decided to have a proper MAX OUT workout – yep, you guessed right :dl:

* It probably wasn’t the best idea because:
1. I felt a bit lethargic during the day due to lack of sleep last night Invalid Link Removed
2. Legs were buggered from all the running, I still felt soreness in my quads&hams :eek:

* I had a small protein shake + nuts + flaxseed meal + 2 caps Prime for breakfast 8:30AM
* I had lunch consisting of can of salmon + 1 boiled egg + olives + salad + 1caps Prime at 1PM

I KNOW, I KNOW, horribly little food :nono: but it was all on purpose ;)

* 40min prior WO 4:30PM
1Rhodiola + 1Q10 + 1Astaxanthin + 1Resveratrol + 2 CissusRX

* 30min prior WO
cup of coffee + coconut cream + organic cocoa powder + handful of nuts + 1Prime

* 10min Prior WO
3 PWFULL
1 Anabolic Pump (thanks for the insight Mullet! :thumbsup: )
2 Y-RD
2 Yohimbe

* All that whilst sipping down ½ of my WO shake
20g BCAA
15g Glutamine
5g ALCAR
10g BAlanine
15g Nimbus SWELL

* Immediately post workout
15g BCAA
10g glutamine
5g ALCAR
400-600mg P-slin

* 10min post WO
60g WPI(70%)/Dextrose mix(30%)
Mixed berries 1/2cup
Oats (?) don’t know, overloaded :D
Powdered Cinnamon

* Never felt hypo during the workout: AP + Yohimbe on fasted protocol :thumbsup:

* Some SERIOUS ENERGY must have been LIBERATED ! Invalid Link Removed :lol:

* Enough Invalid Link Removed let’s see some numbers:

1. Narrow Grip Pulldowns superset with
2. Military Press


1. 100lb 8
2. 53lb 8

1. 121lb 6
2. 64lb 6

1. 130lb 4
2. 72lb 4

1. 141lb 3 NEW PR ! + 11lb
2. 77lb 2 NEW PR ! + 5lb

1. 141lb 3/3 AND AGAIN !!!!
2. 72lb 3/3

* Max I ever done on pulldowns before was 3 sets at 130lb, 3 reps each (on 7th of November, almost 2 months ago - before embarking on hypertrophy routine), so to be able to literally pull down 3 sets at 141lb in my first MAX OUT attempt was PRETTY AWESOME !!!!!!!!! :woohoo: Invalid Link Removed

3. Cable crunches (use these to warmup abs, all sets 141lb 8 reps) superset
4. Deadlifts


Deads
*121lb 8

*149lb 5
*171lb 3
*181.5lb 3 NEW PR (old PR, 179lb 2 reps, soo, 2.5lb increase + 1 extra rep, lame, I can do better than that :twisted:)
*187lb 2 NEW PR (8lb increase, I'm happy now Invalid Link Removed)
*176lb 3/3
*171lb 4
*154lb 6 that felt RIDICULOUSLY LIGHT :rolleyes:

*Previous PR on Deads was LONG time ago, 15th of November and, back then, I did Deads as a first exercise. As of today, I am lifting ~1.5x my body weight and I'm hoping to get that up to 2x in the near future :twisted:



IMPORTANT SUPPPLEMENT NOTES: Invalid Link Removed


* PWFULL: Noticing TOLERANCE, effects are MUCH BETTER after taking 3 FULL DAYS OFF

* PRIME: MORE IS BETTER :D In my experience, for optimal results (as previously suggested by both Mullet&Strat), it is NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN CELLULAR CONCENTRATIONS OF THE ACTIVES by NOT taking days OFF PRIME.

Evidence ?
First : After 2 consecutive days off – aggression & drive are diminished and weight lifted does not seem easier (there is no :fool2: desire to keep adding plates, set after set, :lol:)
Second: Consecutive workouts thereafter keep getting better because of continued Prime supplementation (actives build up)​

* On that note, I shall continue with the following protocol:
WEIGHT TRAINING DAYS: 6caps Prime
REST/CARDIO DAYS: 3caps Prime


OVERALL WORKOUT NOTES:

BY FAR TODAY’S WORKOUT WAS ONE OF THE BEST I EVER HAD ! :head: :hammer:Invalid Link Removed

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* Recovery between sets – didn’t feel like I needed any! Invalid Link Removed
* Energy – sky high !!! Invalid Link Removed
* Perception of weight – real skewed ! Invalid Link Removed
* Aggression – Felt like some kind of monster !!!!!!!!!!!

Day 124.. :jaw: WOW, talk about being late to the party.. :eek:

Sheesh, gonna take a minute or two to get caught up, but some things that strike me.. your workout was phenomenal!! :jaw:

Nice supplementation regimen! (WOW 10g BA!! :jaw:)

Smileys like this thru the whole thread?? :jaw:

You're looking GREAT! :pose:
 
Day 124.. :jaw: WOW, talk about being late to the party.. :eek:

Sheesh, gonna take a minute or two to get caught up, but some things that strike me.. your workout was phenomenal!! :jaw:

Nice supplementation regimen! (WOW 10g BA!! :jaw:)

Smileys like this thru the whole thread?? :jaw:

You're looking GREAT! :pose:

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:welcome: Chef Snag !
 
Yeah Russian, all those Dragons are pretty cool! :p

Yesterday’s workout wasn’t all that amazing save for the fact that I figured my Bis and forearms are much stronger than my chest :lol:

Today’s however….

OFFIALLY OPENING THE BIG LIFTS DAY Invalid Link Removed :head:


DAY 124


* After weeks and weeks and weeks :yawn: of hypertrophy I decided to have a proper MAX OUT workout – yep, you guessed right :dl:

* It probably wasn’t the best idea because:
1. I felt a bit lethargic during the day due to lack of sleep last night Invalid Link Removed
2. Legs were buggered from all the running, I still felt soreness in my quads&hams :eek:

* I had a small protein shake + nuts + flaxseed meal + 2 caps Prime for breakfast 8:30AM
* I had lunch consisting of can of salmon + 1 boiled egg + olives + salad + 1caps Prime at 1PM

I KNOW, I KNOW, horribly little food :nono: but it was all on purpose ;)

* 40min prior WO 4:30PM
1Rhodiola + 1Q10 + 1Astaxanthin + 1Resveratrol + 2 CissusRX

* 30min prior WO
cup of coffee + coconut cream + organic cocoa powder + handful of nuts + 1Prime

* 10min Prior WO
3 PWFULL
1 Anabolic Pump (thanks for the insight Mullet! :thumbsup: )
2 Y-RD
2 Yohimbe

* All that whilst sipping down ½ of my WO shake
20g BCAA
15g Glutamine
5g ALCAR
10g BAlanine
15g Nimbus SWELL

* Immediately post workout
15g BCAA
10g glutamine
5g ALCAR
400-600mg P-slin

* 10min post WO
60g WPI(70%)/Dextrose mix(30%)
Mixed berries 1/2cup
Oats (?) don’t know, overloaded :D
Powdered Cinnamon

* Never felt hypo during the workout: AP + Yohimbe on fasted protocol :thumbsup:

* Some SERIOUS ENERGY must have been LIBERATED ! Invalid Link Removed :lol:

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1. Narrow Grip Pulldowns superset with
2. Military Press


1. 100lb 8
2. 53lb 8

1. 121lb 6
2. 64lb 6

1. 130lb 4
2. 72lb 4

1. 141lb 3 NEW PR ! + 11lb
2. 77lb 2 NEW PR ! + 5lb

1. 141lb 3/3 AND AGAIN !!!!
2. 72lb 3/3

* Max I ever done on pulldowns before was 3 sets at 130lb, 3 reps each (on 7th of November, almost 2 months ago - before embarking on hypertrophy routine), so to be able to literally pull down 3 sets at 141lb in my first MAX OUT attempt was PRETTY AWESOME !!!!!!!!! :woohoo: Invalid Link Removed

3. Cable crunches (use these to warmup abs, all sets 141lb 8 reps) superset
4. Deadlifts


Deads
*121lb 8

*149lb 5
*171lb 3
*181.5lb 3 NEW PR (old PR, 179lb 2 reps, soo, 2.5lb increase + 1 extra rep, lame, I can do better than that :twisted:)
*187lb 2 NEW PR (8lb increase, I'm happy now Invalid Link Removed)
*176lb 3/3
*171lb 4
*154lb 6 that felt RIDICULOUSLY LIGHT :rolleyes:

*Previous PR on Deads was LONG time ago, 15th of November and, back then, I did Deads as a first exercise. As of today, I am lifting ~1.5x my body weight and I'm hoping to get that up to 2x in the near future :twisted:



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* PWFULL: Noticing TOLERANCE, effects are MUCH BETTER after taking 3 FULL DAYS OFF

* PRIME: MORE IS BETTER :D In my experience, for optimal results (as previously suggested by both Mullet&Strat), it is NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN CELLULAR CONCENTRATIONS OF THE ACTIVES by NOT taking days OFF PRIME.

Evidence ?
First : After 2 consecutive days off – aggression & drive are diminished and weight lifted does not seem easier (there is no :fool2: desire to keep adding plates, set after set, :lol:)
Second: Consecutive workouts thereafter keep getting better because of continued Prime supplementation (actives build up)​

* On that note, I shall continue with the following protocol:
WEIGHT TRAINING DAYS: 6caps Prime
REST/CARDIO DAYS: 3caps Prime


OVERALL WORKOUT NOTES:

BY FAR TODAY’S WORKOUT WAS ONE OF THE BEST I EVER HAD ! :head: :hammer:Invalid Link Removed

* Muscle-mind connection - Invalid Link Removed
* Recovery between sets – didn’t feel like I needed any! Invalid Link Removed
* Energy – sky high !!! Invalid Link Removed
* Perception of weight – real skewed ! Invalid Link Removed
* Aggression – Felt like some kind of monster !!!!!!!!!!!

I wouldn't lie to you DF! The fact you set three PRs, did not feel Hypo, and had fantastic energy while training fasted does not surprise me. It is a mental hurdle to overcome - modifying your training, that is - but it can reap some fantastic rewards. IMO, it should be done with some kind of beta-agonist or other CNS stimulant; partly for the energy, but partly for their effect on FA oxidation [and subsequent increases in nor/adrenaline, which will also increase FA and nutrient metabolization].
 
Like snagency, I'm another "Johnnie-come-lately" to your thread!! :lol: And the loss is all mine. WOW!! :eek:
You have realized some fantastic gains using this fasted training protocol. I will be doing almost the exact same thing for the next 2 weeks. So your results have me very excited!! And I will be all up in here bleeding your thread for insight and motivation!!
You are the most unique and exciting poster that I have ever seen here at AM!!
Keep up the great work dragonfly!! You freakin' rock!! :head:
 
Keep up the great work dragonfly!! You freakin' rock!! :head:

Doesn't she? :D

It looks like many of us are moving to the fasted-training. Hopefully we will all have good results with it. I'm doing all that I can to avoid muscle-loss, as I'm sure you and DF are as well. I think it will work well for us. I don't feel any ill-effects as of yet. So far it's been great. :thumbsup:

DFly, what are the effects you actually feel from PowerFULL? Since it's been so long that I've taken it, I can't quite remember what I felt, and I'm having a hard time distinguishing what I feel from bulk 1-C from what I felt from the 1-C + PureSap (PowerFULL).
 
Don't forget the critical 15g immediately post w/o.. this is essential imo as well..

She's crushing it with that combined 35g!!

I gave your exclusively-BCAA-immediately-post-WO-method a shot, Snag! Anecdotally, I retained the vasodilation for much longer, and felt fuller as well. May be something I incorporate!
 
I gave your exclusively-BCAA-immediately-post-WO-method a shot, Snag! Anecdotally, I retained the vasodilation for much longer, and felt fuller as well. May be something I incorporate!
I'd do this, but isn't it kind of unecessary to take in BCAAs post-wo if you're also taking in whey (gemma in my case) and oats/WMS? I usually suck down 40g BCAA/6scoops GlycerGROW intra-workout, and have my shake and P-Slin immediately after the workout.
 
I'd do this, but isn't it kind of unecessary to take in BCAAs post-wo if you're also taking in whey (gemma in my case) and oats/WMS? I usually suck down 40g BCAA/6scoops GlycerGROW intra-workout, and have my shake and P-Slin immediately after the workout.

I am somewhat confused. Snag had a made a post about consuming BCAA-only immediately Post-WO, and then taking in a shake about 20 minutes later. That is what I was referring to [were you referring to the same thing?].
 
FYI: As this protocol appears to be gaining in popularity, I have started a discussion thread:

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Hope to see you guys add in your ideas etc - especially you Mullet (obviously), Snag (protocol veteran) and DF (Alpha FeMale Supp Junkie extraordinaire).

I will also PM Brian, whose had a bit of experience as well.

Cheers, JKP
 
I'd do this, but isn't it kind of unecessary to take in BCAAs post-wo if you're also taking in whey (gemma in my case) and oats/WMS? I usually suck down 40g BCAA/6scoops GlycerGROW intra-workout, and have my shake and P-Slin immediately after the workout.

Irish, you have to understand my position on PWO consumption (excerpt from my thread):

My basis for this thinking.. I believe foods should be avoided in the 30 minutes following training, so as to maximize bloodflow/nutrient delivery to the muscles. When we're working out, it's been shown that bloodflow is increased 11x that over a relaxed state, and it's also been shown that once you put foods in the stomach, that bloodflow will be interrupted and diverted to the gut to aid the body in its' digestion processes, hence shortening maximal amino acid nutrient delivery in bloodflow that is so precious. This 30 minute window following training is best used to shuttle BCAA's directly to muscle stores imo, and following that up with a large quantity of carbs to slam everything home just makes intellectual sense to me.
 
Irish, you have to understand my position on PWO consumption (excerpt from my thread):

My basis for this thinking.. I believe foods should be avoided in the 30 minutes following training, so as to maximize bloodflow/nutrient delivery to the muscles. When we're working out, it's been shown that bloodflow is increased 11x that over a relaxed state, and it's also been shown that once you put foods in the stomach, that bloodflow will be interrupted and diverted to the gut to aid the body in its' digestion processes, hence shortening maximal amino acid nutrient delivery in bloodflow that is so precious. This 30 minute window following training is best used to shuttle BCAA's directly to muscle stores imo, and following that up with a large quantity of carbs to slam everything home just makes intellectual sense to me.

...that makes a lot of sense. Do you have a formula for BCAAs? Is it weight-dependent, or is there some other method?
 
Irish, you have to understand my position on PWO consumption (excerpt from my thread):

My basis for this thinking.. I believe foods should be avoided in the 30 minutes following training, so as to maximize bloodflow/nutrient delivery to the muscles. When we're working out, it's been shown that bloodflow is increased 11x that over a relaxed state, and it's also been shown that once you put foods in the stomach, that bloodflow will be interrupted and diverted to the gut to aid the body in its' digestion processes, hence shortening maximal amino acid nutrient delivery in bloodflow that is so precious. This 30 minute window following training is best used to shuttle BCAA's directly to muscle stores imo, and following that up with a large quantity of carbs to slam everything home just makes intellectual sense to me.
:goodpost: Makes perfect sense. I have already adopted this protocol since hearing you mention it weeks ago. I used to slam my post-workout shake immediately after my training. Now I'm waiting the 30 minutes. I take my AP 15 minutes after slammin' da weights and then wait 15 more minutes for that big healthy shake!! :thumbsup:
 
:goodpost: Makes perfect sense. I have already adopted this protocol since hearing you mention it weeks ago. I used to slam my post-workout shake immediately after my training. Now I'm waiting the 30 minutes. I take my AP 15 minutes after slammin' da weights and then wait 15 more minutes for that big healthy shake!! :thumbsup:

PERFECT!! :head:
 
...that makes a lot of sense. Do you have a formula for BCAAs? Is it weight-dependent, or is there some other method?

It is weight-dependent. Also diet-dependent..

For me, I like to be in the 35g range for pre/post/intra consumption. Base this on the 200lb. bw range..

A nice split is having 40% the total BCAA consumption immediately PWO.

As dietary constraints tighten (i.e. for contest prep), and as carbs go lower, I up this dosage commensurately.

EDIT: arrrrgh.. % corrected, duplicate posting, don't know what happened there..
 
...that makes a lot of sense. Do you have a formula for BCAAs? Is it weight-dependent, or is there some other method?

It is weight-dependent. Also diet-dependent..

For me, I like to be in the 35g range for pre/post/intra consumption. Base this on the 200lb. bw range..

A nice split is having 40% the total BCAA consumption immediately PWO.

As dietary constraints tighten (i.e. for contest prep), and as carbs go lower, I up this dosage commensurately.
 
Hey snag. That was like deja-vu all over again. Like deja-vu all over again!! :lol:
 
Doesn't she? :D

It looks like many of us are moving to the fasted-training. Hopefully we will all have good results with it. I'm doing all that I can to avoid muscle-loss, as I'm sure you and DF are as well. I think it will work well for us. I don't feel any ill-effects as of yet. So far it's been great. :thumbsup:

DFly, what are the effects you actually feel from PowerFULL? Since it's been so long that I've taken it, I can't quite remember what I felt, and I'm having a hard time distinguishing what I feel from bulk 1-C from what I felt from the 1-C + PureSap (PowerFULL).

Let me save you searching back IC:

Apart from improved sleeping quality…

DAY 22

SERIOUS DOMS today, back is ROOOOTED :lol:

Looking back at the workout I did yesterday, it looks kind of unreal.
I CANNOT BELIEVE believe WHAT I HAD DONE, considering I felt half dead the day before. :confused:
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The stuff is INSANE!!!! When I'm on it, it feels like some weird hallucinogens have possessed my mind! Invalid Link Removed

Everything seems EASY, no weight is too heavy, no PR is unbreakable, no effort is too great!

There is no procrastination about the next upcoming set, you just go ahead and DO IT! :head:

And then, you stack some more weigh on and you DO IT AGAIN, AND AGAIN!!! :head::head::head:

The shear brutality of the workout becomes only evident THE DAY AFTER....
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+ 15 PwFULL =
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I have never tried 15PwFULL (I'm not that rich! :icon_lol:), there's no need, I just stack Prime + PwFULL and that is EXACTLY HOW I FEEL !!!:D
 
I'd do this, but isn't it kind of unecessary to take in BCAAs post-wo if you're also taking in whey (gemma in my case) and oats/WMS? I usually suck down 40g BCAA/6scoops GlycerGROW intra-workout, and have my shake and P-Slin immediately after the workout.

Just my 2c:

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Protein powders often contain high amounts of BCAAs. However, these aminos work best when taken on empty stomach

BCAAs are predominant aminos in the muscle. Supplementing with BCAAs helps recovery and it is also beneficial in maintaining strength when cutting. BCAAs not only promote protein synthesis but also reduce protein degradation. Thus, supplementing with BCAAs is particularly beneficial pre- and post workout. In these instances you want to flood the muscles with BCAA RAPIDLY. Even though whey (particularly WPI), is a fast digesting protein, BCAA in whey are bound to other amino acids and so it takes several hours before they are released into the bloodstream during digestion. In contrast, in their free form, BCAAs are rapidly absorbed from the intestine.
 
Irish, you have to understand my position on PWO consumption (excerpt from my thread):

My basis for this thinking.. I believe foods should be avoided in the 30 minutes following training, so as to maximize bloodflow/nutrient delivery to the muscles. When we're working out, it's been shown that bloodflow is increased 11x that over a relaxed state, and it's also been shown that once you put foods in the stomach, that bloodflow will be interrupted and diverted to the gut to aid the body in its' digestion processes, hence shortening maximal amino acid nutrient delivery in bloodflow that is so precious. This 30 minute window following training is best used to shuttle BCAA's directly to muscle stores imo, and following that up with a large quantity of carbs to slam everything home just makes intellectual sense to me.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to snagency again.
:rasp: rep system

I'll just have to make sure I stretch the time between BCAA intake and the postWO Whey+CARB shake to 30min, instead of 10-15min. It will be hard :food: but I trust Snag's opinions! :box:
 
Like snagency, I'm another "Johnnie-come-lately" to your thread!! :lol: And the loss is all mine. WOW!! :eek:
You have realized some fantastic gains using this fasted training protocol. I will be doing almost the exact same thing for the next 2 weeks. So your results have me very excited!! And I will be all up in here bleeding your thread for insight and motivation!!
You are the most unique and exciting poster that I have ever seen here at AM!!
Keep up the great work dragonfly!! You freakin' rock!! :head:


TG !!!!!

FREAKIN' AWESOME TO HAVE YOU HERE !!!
:bow28:

Hell, yes we are two :twisted: Anabolic Minds !!

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Speakin' of which, on my heaviest deadlift set yesterday I had my ipod set on Master of Puppets. I was timing the lift to the chorus:

Come crawling faster
Obey your master

Your life burns faster
Obey your master

There was NO WAY on earth that ba$tard bar was going to disobey me! It had to come off the ground, failure was NOT an option...never is :D
You only fail when you give up and I don't give up THAT EASY :p
 
I wouldn't lie to you DF! The fact you set three PRs, did not feel Hypo, and had fantastic energy while training fasted does not surprise me. It is a mental hurdle to overcome - modifying your training, that is - but it can reap some fantastic rewards. IMO, it should be done with some kind of beta-agonist or other CNS stimulant; partly for the energy, but partly for their effect on FA oxidation [and subsequent increases in nor/adrenaline, which will also increase FA and nutrient metabolization].

I’m digging this Mullet :D


DAY 125


*Breakfast&lunch equally pathetic today ;)

* Prior WO, 4hrs after lunch:

* 1Rhodiola + 1Q10 + 1Astaxanthin + 1Resveratrol + 2 CissusRX + 5g ALCAR​

* 10min after:

* Coffee + coconut cream (just a tiny tiny bit :p)
1 AP
3 Yohimbe
2 Y-RD


* CARDIO: moderate ??? 1hr15min

* No it most definitely was NOT MODERATE intensity for the most part ‘cause I did the same distance I normally do in 1hr30min, except I’ve gone 15min faster :twisted:

* NO BCAAs & NO BAlanine prior WO, had BCAAs after
 
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