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15 Months Worth Of HGHpro

GOT it!
 
CROWLER said:
Some free single server BCAA packets here:

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I like the raspberry flavored one more. If I could JUST get that one for the stack deal I'd have probably bought those too in my past order... lol. The lemon one I got tired of real fast haha.
 
Put them together for the win!


No joke people LOVE when they mix the red raspberry with the Lemon even more than either one by itself.

Problem solved now you can get the low priced combo :)
 
CROWLER said:
Put them together for the win!


No joke people LOVE when they mix the red raspberry with the Lemon even more than either one by itself.

Problem solved now you can get the low priced combo :)
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I haven't tried that yet with my samples hmm
 
CROWLER said:
Put them together for the win!


No joke people LOVE when they mix the red raspberry with the Lemon even more than either one by itself.

Problem solved now you can get the low priced combo :)
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..... oh oh... sale.... almost over... CC almost dead.... what to do, what to do..
 
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mattrag said:
If I do it ... i'll have like 4 AI sports nutrition shirts lol.
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[video=youtube;dZ-vrj9_5i0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dZ-vrj9_5i0[/video]

One of my shirts repping the AI supps in Japan. Sumo deadlift 185X20. ;) (Currently using TestoPro/Stoked/HghPro )
 
LIGHTWEIGHT BABYYY
 
mattrag said:
[video=youtube;dZ-vrj9_5i0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dZ-vrj9_5i0[/video]

One of my shirts repping the AI supps in Japan. Sumo deadlift 185X20. ;) (Currently using TestoPro/Stoked/HghPro )
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VERY cool man!


I am loving it!


Get us in the stores in Japan please :)

We are in something like 25 countries but I don't think in Japan yettttttttttttttt
 
SWEET!

I will give you a gross of shirts if you get it done :)

Well I think we can do better than shirts lol
 
wow in before mattrag ownes a supplement shop in japan xD
 
thetinyguy said:
wow in before mattrag ownes a supplement shop in japan xD
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Haha, man... that's be awesome. But I honestly don't know enough about Business Law here. And I know enough about Business Law back home to know not to start anything here before I do know more about it lol. (Business/finance major lol)
 
mattrag said:
Haha, man... that's be awesome. But I honestly don't know enough about Business Law here. And I know enough about Business Law back home to know not to start anything here before I do know more about it lol. (Business/finance major lol)
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Same here, i'd really like to own a shop someday it'd help if i was gigantic first :)
 
Question for anyone who can answer regarding proper use of this product. I have read to avoid carbohydrates when taking hgh-pro and other products like it. Is this because you don't want insulin being spiked at the same time you take the product? And also if my last meal contains carbohydrates how long should I wait after this meal to take hgh-pro? It says 30 -45 mins after a meal but is that enough time to wait? or should I wait an hour or so?
 
mattrag said:
One of my shirts repping the AI supps in Japan. Sumo deadlift 185X20. ;) (Currently using TestoPro/Stoked/HghPro )
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Nice man
 
bigdavid said:
Question for anyone who can answer regarding proper use of this product. I have read to avoid carbohydrates when taking hgh-pro and other products like it. Is this because you don't want insulin being spiked at the same time you take the product? And also if my last meal contains carbohydrates how long should I wait after this meal to take hgh-pro? It says 30 -45 mins after a meal but is that enough time to wait? or should I wait an hour or so?
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growth hormone & blood sugar....

The most important point in regards to growth hormone (GH) and diet is that "Growth hormone levels increase significantly when insulin levels are low" (Jamieson, p. 85). "More precisely, the cause of growth hormone inhibition is not high insulin levels but rather high blood sugar (which, because insulin is secreted to bring down blood sugar level, overlaps in time with high insulin levels)" (Faigin, p.201).
To explain further, "… glucose inhibits the secretion of growth hormone by acting on specific areas of the hypothalamus. Consequently, during the day, when food is consumed periodically, growth hormone secretion by the pituitary is suppressed, and insulin release by the pancreas is increased" (Dean).
But it should be noted that it is not just any food that causes a rise in blood sugar and the consequent insulin release, but primary carbohydrates. And some kinds of carbs cause a greater blood sugar increase than others. This issue is discussed in the article *The Glycemic Index.
I won't repeat all the details of that article here, but the important point is that low glycemic foods will not increase blood sugar as much as high glycemic foods. And eating a large amount of carbs at once will cause a greater increase in blood sugar levels than eating a small amount of carbs. Also, eating fat with carbs will blunt the rise in blood sugar.
What this means is, consuming a large amount of high glycemic carbs by themselves could completely halt growth hormone release. Or more generally, a high carbohydrate, low fat diet is absolutely devastating to growth hormone levels. This is one of the reasons why many people trying to lose weight on such a diet "plateau" after a period of time. Their inability to continue to lose weight is partly due to suppressed GH levels.
Moreover, a study comparing a group of boys consuming meals composed of high-glycemic index (GI) foods verses low GI foods found, "There were higher levels of the hormones insulin, noradrenaline, and cortisol after the high-GI meals" (Brand-Miller, p.230). So a rapid rise in blood sugar and insulin can lead to a rise in cortisol, with its attendant catabolic and lipogenic properties.
However, "… we need insulin to promote the benefits of growth hormone. Studies show that GH fails to cause growth in animals lacking a pancreas and it also fails if carbohydrates are restricted from the diet" (Jamieson, p.56). The reason for his could be that a strict low carb diet would lead to chronically low insulin levels, and insulin, as indicated above, is needed to drive amino acids into the muscle cells.
Moreover, IGF-1 is produced in the body through the combined actions of GH and insulin. And IGF-1 "… is at least as powerful an anabolic agent as either of its parents" (Faigin, p. 90). But a low carb diet would lead to a reduction in IGF-1 levels. So a low carb diet is not the answer either. In fact, this relationship of insulin, growth hormone, and IGF-1 is one reason why those following a low carb diet also often plateau after a period of time.
There is a relationship with thyroid hormone here as well. "Raising GH has a profound effect on normalizing thyroid function … " (Jamieson, p.100). However, "Studies also show that diets that continuously restrict carbohydrate (like the Atkin's diet, for instance) cause a reduction in T3, and that administering carbohydrate can restore T3 levels after they have declined" (Faigin, p.139). This reduction in T3 is another reason people will often plateau on low carb diets.
So an ideal GH enhancing diet would include some carbs, but not an excessive amount. And the focus would be on low glycemic carbs.

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jbryand101b said:
growth hormone & blood sugar....

The most important point in regards to growth hormone (GH) and diet is that "Growth hormone levels increase significantly when insulin levels are low" (Jamieson, p. 85). "More precisely, the cause of growth hormone inhibition is not high insulin levels but rather high blood sugar (which, because insulin is secreted to bring down blood sugar level, overlaps in time with high insulin levels)" (Faigin, p.201).
To explain further, "… glucose inhibits the secretion of growth hormone by acting on specific areas of the hypothalamus. Consequently, during the day, when food is consumed periodically, growth hormone secretion by the pituitary is suppressed, and insulin release by the pancreas is increased" (Dean).
But it should be noted that it is not just any food that causes a rise in blood sugar and the consequent insulin release, but primary carbohydrates. And some kinds of carbs cause a greater blood sugar increase than others. This issue is discussed in the article *The Glycemic Index.
I won't repeat all the details of that article here, but the important point is that low glycemic foods will not increase blood sugar as much as high glycemic foods. And eating a large amount of carbs at once will cause a greater increase in blood sugar levels than eating a small amount of carbs. Also, eating fat with carbs will blunt the rise in blood sugar.
What this means is, consuming a large amount of high glycemic carbs by themselves could completely halt growth hormone release. Or more generally, a high carbohydrate, low fat diet is absolutely devastating to growth hormone levels. This is one of the reasons why many people trying to lose weight on such a diet "plateau" after a period of time. Their inability to continue to lose weight is partly due to suppressed GH levels.
Moreover, a study comparing a group of boys consuming meals composed of high-glycemic index (GI) foods verses low GI foods found, "There were higher levels of the hormones insulin, noradrenaline, and cortisol after the high-GI meals" (Brand-Miller, p.230). So a rapid rise in blood sugar and insulin can lead to a rise in cortisol, with its attendant catabolic and lipogenic properties.
However, "… we need insulin to promote the benefits of growth hormone. Studies show that GH fails to cause growth in animals lacking a pancreas and it also fails if carbohydrates are restricted from the diet" (Jamieson, p.56). The reason for his could be that a strict low carb diet would lead to chronically low insulin levels, and insulin, as indicated above, is needed to drive amino acids into the muscle cells.
Moreover, IGF-1 is produced in the body through the combined actions of GH and insulin. And IGF-1 "… is at least as powerful an anabolic agent as either of its parents" (Faigin, p. 90). But a low carb diet would lead to a reduction in IGF-1 levels. So a low carb diet is not the answer either. In fact, this relationship of insulin, growth hormone, and IGF-1 is one reason why those following a low carb diet also often plateau after a period of time.
There is a relationship with thyroid hormone here as well. "Raising GH has a profound effect on normalizing thyroid function … " (Jamieson, p.100). However, "Studies also show that diets that continuously restrict carbohydrate (like the Atkin's diet, for instance) cause a reduction in T3, and that administering carbohydrate can restore T3 levels after they have declined" (Faigin, p.139). This reduction in T3 is another reason people will often plateau on low carb diets.
So an ideal GH enhancing diet would include some carbs, but not an excessive amount. And the focus would be on low glycemic carbs.

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Good info I had read something along these lines in the past but this does give more details. So based off of this how long are you going to wait after your last meal to take the hgh-pro?
 
bigdavid said:
Question for anyone who can answer regarding proper use of this product. I have read to avoid carbohydrates when taking hgh-pro and other products like it. Is this because you don't want insulin being spiked at the same time you take the product? And also if my last meal contains carbohydrates how long should I wait after this meal to take hgh-pro? It says 30 -45 mins after a meal but is that enough time to wait? or should I wait an hour or so?
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Looks like jbry answered it for you, but GH and insulin have antagonistic behaviour, and in the body the production of one usually coincides with the reduction of the other.

Which brings us to why people often dose whey or bcaas with a GH booster: these have a small blood sugar lowering effect, and this should potentiate the effects of an effective GH booster (and so it does!).
 
Has everyone been picked?
 
LOL. I'm working on something for you guys RIGHT NOW!!!

BRB...:run:
 
I'm surprised nobody requested TestoPRO.

Off to the gym. I'll check back with you guys in a little bit ;)
 
stxnas said:
I'm surprised nobody requested TestoPRO.

Off to the gym. I'll check back with you guys in a little bit ;)
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So am I... Testopro would be nice to see an extended logging of. Seeing many (me included) think running a test booster for only 4 weeks won't have as pronounced results as it run for 10-12 weeks.... I just am so backed up with logs now I figure I would hold off answering this lol.
 
Do you think there are others that agree with you?

I'm seriously going to the gym now, lol...
 
stxnas said:
Do you think there are others that agree with you?

I'm seriously going to the gym now, lol...
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Hit the gym man!

Well saturation of the product and absorption are sometimes overlooked. The placebo effect definitely is there for most taking test boosters for the first time. Hell I felt like I was a hormoned out teen on T-force (my first test booster) but that stuff is not that strong... haha. But I noticed around week 5-7 I got the most strength gains. Not as fast and pronounced as cycle gains but definitely noticed a BUMP. I feel that some others would agree. Mainly those of us that will dose a product higher and/or longer... It was mentioned on a PP thread, and also those of us that run products tend to notice an up kick of recovery and well being towards the END of the product. End meaning it's coming to an end of the run, not the end of the effects. Either way 3Z (I have a bottle which I never took yet) will be a great 3 month test. As it is a sleep enhancer, and getting better sleep over all is probably worth more than the test booster. Well provided you have enough TIME to sleep long enough lol.
 
I think it should be testpro I agree with what mattrag is saying. Obv I cant do that either since I'm doing the hgh-pro so I didnt say anything either ;)
 
bigdavid said:
I think it should be testpro I agree with what mattrag is saying. Obv I cant do that either since I'm doing the hgh-pro so I didnt say anything either ;)
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Oh yeah? Well, I just ran five miles at the gym and feel awesome. My 5th mile timed in at exactly FIVE minutes. I know it's not the same as running outside, but that's not my fastest mile , either.

How about a TestoPRO thread looking for FIVE loggers. I think it was meant to be :D

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stopstalking said:
The first winners hgh been sent yet ? I'm excited to get this going
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I have a PM coming your way.
 
Oh man, I'll be all over that 3Z thread when I have a moment (probably tomorrow morning)!
 
Guys hit up that Testopro loggin op! If you want to see results go get on that log! I want to see results but I can't log it! GOGOGOGO! haha.


Good luck all, and HGHpro Users, I'm sure you'll gonna have a GREAT time loggin this stuff.
 
I did a test booster once and my wife kept on say ing how short tempered I was and how mean I was getting... I never told her I was on a booster but I did see that effect.. It also got me kickstarted. I far as 3Z I take it everyonce in a while.... been taking on off days becauseI get more sleep. the days I work out I endup researching and posting so much by the time I get up in the morning I haven't slept more than 6 hours off days I get an extra 1.5hours at least
 
stxnas said:
Oh yeah? Well, I just ran five miles at the gym and feel awesome. My 5th mile timed in at exactly FIVE minutes. I know it's not the same as running outside, but that's not my fastest mile , either.
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Now you're just showing off :P . I was on track in high school my fastest mile was only 5:15.. but that was without going to a lot of the practices lol
 
stxnas said:
Oh yeah? Well, I just ran five miles at the gym and feel awesome. My 5th mile timed in at exactly FIVE minutes. I know it's not the same as running outside, but that's not my fastest mile , either.
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Whats your 1 mile PR Stxnas?
 
Or maybe I really wanted to post another FIVE logging positions, so I pushed myself extra hard as a way of convincing myself that it was meant to be.

<Seriously, though. Sorry if it came off that way. I just always feel good after sweating it out like that...I guess I got a little carried away.>

I think my fastest in high school was 5:30. I can't remember though, that was in the 1990's :run:

I think Crowler does Iron Man competitions or Triathalons...or something like that, lol.
 
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