Nice definitionFrom todays legs and shoulder workout during my military presses.
Nice definitionFrom todays legs and shoulder workout during my military presses.
Are you taking any cycle support supps?That it is. I had been on Anabolic Effect and Follidrone 2.0 for about 2 months prior and have continued to run that through as well. But as far as “hormonal” the above is what I’m on.
Cel cycle assist. Blood pressure has been perfect despite using preworkouts, fat burners, ec/yohimbine.Are you taking any cycle support supps?
How many pumps of everything are you taking and how much oral Epi-Andro?
Thanks!Nice definition
Did you notice that there was a point where more Epi-Andro didn’t produce more results? I’m starting my second Epi-Andro run in probably a month or so. 200mg TD and 300 oral, have enough oral Epi-Andro to go with 600/day. Just trying to figure out what route to go. Been enjoying the logCel cycle assist. Blood pressure has been perfect despite using preworkouts, fat burners, ec/yohimbine.
5 pumps of ultra 11 and ultra hard pretty much since the beginning. 3 pumps dermacrine until the last couple weeks where I upped it to 5.
I added 1 cap of stanoplex preworkout week 3. Then week 5 and other cap in the morning. Then week 7 another cap at night. This last week I’ve been experimenting with an additional cap preworkout. So 1200 oral plus the 5 pumps of ultra hard to finish this run. No side effects noted.
I would personally do the higher dosing option, especially if Epiandro is the only compound you're running. I'm doing oral Epiandro 750 mg preWO right now and not noticing anything. I was expecting a more pronounced pwo effect, but I'm hoping it to add to things and have an effect in the longer run at least. I'm stacking it with Ultra Eleven.Did you notice that there was a point where more Epi-Andro didn’t produce more results? I’m starting my second Epi-Andro run in probably a month or so. 200mg TD and 300 oral, have enough oral Epi-Andro to go with 600/day. Just trying to figure out what route to go. Been enjoying the log
I did an oral run last year at 600 then 900mg a day. I noticed that I could eat more and stay lean and my strength went up. My knees were bothering me and want to find out if it was the compound or work related, although when I stopped the Epi it went away. Felt like I had a water bubble in my knee, only way I can describe it. I was also pushing at too high an intensity for too long so there’s that.I would personally do the higher dosing option, especially if Epiandro is the only compound you're running. I'm doing oral Epiandro 750 mg preWO right now and not noticing anything. I was expecting a more pronounced pwo effect, but I'm hoping it to add to things and have an effect in the longer run at least. I'm stacking it with Ultra Eleven.
Epiandro is a dry compound and has antiestrogenic properties, so adding something like 4-Andro or Dermacrine should help. I have TD 4-Andro on hand, but haven't seen the need to add it yet. I'm 4 weeks in on the U-11 and added the Epiandro in a few days ago.I did an oral run last year at 600 then 900mg a day. I noticed that I could eat more and stay lean and my strength went up. My knees were bothering me and want to find out if it was the compound or work related, although when I stopped the Epi it went away. Felt like I had a water bubble in my knee, only way I can describe it. I was also pushing at too high an intensity for too long so there’s that.
That's a lot of TD's to be applied, lol. I'm doing 5 pumps of Ultra 11 and dividing that in to 2 applications on most days. I'm applying only to upper body though.Cel cycle assist. Blood pressure has been perfect despite using preworkouts, fat burners, ec/yohimbine.
5 pumps of ultra 11 and ultra hard pretty much since the beginning. 3 pumps dermacrine until the last couple weeks where I upped it to 5.
I added 1 cap of stanoplex preworkout week 3. Then week 5 and other cap in the morning. Then week 7 another cap at night. This last week I’ve been experimenting with an additional cap preworkout. So 1200 oral plus the 5 pumps of ultra hard to finish this run. No side effects noted.
I think 900mg oral with my full dose TD is pretty damn solid. I’ve only been doing the 1200 oral for a few days so I can’t say just yet. What I do know is that my strength has been standing strong despite weight loss, calorie restriction, cardio, and no rest days. Pumps are great and motivation/positive aggression is up.Did you notice that there was a point where more Epi-Andro didn’t produce more results? I’m starting my second Epi-Andro run in probably a month or so. 200mg TD and 300 oral, have enough oral Epi-Andro to go with 600/day. Just trying to figure out what route to go. Been enjoying the log
If I wasn’t so hell bent on shredding up for summer I’d play around with more calories. No doubt this combo can help keep you lean at or slightly above maintenance.I did an oral run last year at 600 then 900mg a day. I noticed that I could eat more and stay lean and my strength went up. My knees were bothering me and want to find out if it was the compound or work related, although when I stopped the Epi it went away. Felt like I had a water bubble in my knee, only way I can describe it. I was also pushing at too high an intensity for too long so there’s that.
Epiandro is a dry compound and has antiestrogenic properties, so adding something like 4-Andro or Dermacrine should help. I have TD 4-Andro on hand, but haven't seen the need to add it yet. I'm 4 weeks in on the U-11 and added the Epiandro in a few days ago.
Dermacrine has definitely been helping the joints in my experience.
Yes, that is the only downside. I do halfThat's a lot of TD's to be applied, lol. I'm doing 5 pumps of Ultra 11 and dividing that in to 2 applications on most days. I'm applying only to upper body though.
That might be the greatest compliment I've ever received in all my years of lifting!Are you sure you're not on Tren?
If your planning on getting 4 or icon, best do it soon as it will be hard to find soon.Everything is still going strong. Strength and recovery still about the same. Condition is holding nicely. Trying to keep the condition all summer is going to be extremely difficult though since I want to enjoy myself a bit. Will try and eat low calorie on days I have nothing going on and then on planned days implement some intermittent fasting so that I can enjoy big meals / high calorie foods / drinks.
Been really considering running a full andro stack in the fall/winter. I would start at maintenance calories and maybe increase a total of 500 by the end of the run. The more I’ve seen and learned over the years I’m not really a fan of bulking. I gain weight easily. My body is comfortable at 200-215 lbs. the last time I bulked I capped out at 240! (Was only an 8 week Vector run). In all honesty, I really didn’t eat THAT much.
I heard the andro stack can help you achieve some lean gains while even dropping body fat in some cases. I’m just considering the risk/reward aspect. I read some funky things about 4andro specifically. Was thinking about going the oral route with Hard Rock but many seem to think transdermal is better. Transdermal gets annoying after a while. But if I do transdermal I’m going to snag some Alpha 4 and Icon 1. I like how there is RAndro and other goodies in them too.
Looking forward to getting some feedback. Thanks guys.
Yeah, I saw it at a couple places. Might have to pick up 2 bottles of each and hold them. What are your opinion on 4 Andro? Any experience with the whole stack in general?If your planning on getting 4 or icon, best do it soon as it will be hard to find soon.
I’ve run both with lots of success. Icon is untouchable in quality and results. 4 andro is great as a test base.Yeah, I saw it at a couple places. Might have to pick up 2 bottles of each and hold them. What are your opinion on 4 Andro? Any experience with the whole stack in general?
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