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1-T log with Pre-cycle & Post PCT Blood work

alwaysgaining said:
embrace shutdown and know that yer body is doing wat its soposed to do
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I don't want to embrace shutdown, but I know it comes with the territory. I have been monitoring my body pretty well versus normal and I think I am at a point where I can make a decision to do the right thing.
 
i would experiment with natty booster and estrogen blockers. I can tell you that i experienced PH like growth on DTH. 12 lbs in a month, 0 shutdown, lots of action, and still gaining.
 
tim1985 said:
Those are newb gains! Tex has been at this for a while now.
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Irish Cannon said:
LOL. That's exactly what I was typing.

There is no non-hormonal product out there that will pack 12lbs of LBM on you in a months time. Definitely more diet related.
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gosh how I miss beginning gains... but yes my goal after this is to lean out to competition shape possibly. I plan to introduce cardio and a bit of a cleaner diet while incorporating a few other natural things. I want to really work on my obliques and get the visible. of course I know my weight will probably go down significantly.
 
oblique program:
decline weighted twists
side bends
hanging leg raises to the sides

NOTHING GETS OBLIQUES DANKER!!!!
 
buster0371 said:
oblique program:
decline weighted twists
side bends
hanging leg raises to the sides

NOTHING GETS OBLIQUES DANKER!!!!
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yup I will use some of those once I decide how I am going to run my split... I want to log my progress, but I am kind of burnt out from logging.

Im still waiting for the rest of my supplements to come in to decide what I am going to run during my cut to visible obliques & shape.

DTH, TD Formestane, Drive, T911, Cre-Ethyl thunder, Neovar Recomped, Igf-2, Slim Xtreme, and whatever I can snag. I am excited to be using drive though... I love the stuff.
 
sounds chill, but wont creatine make you a little bloated so the obliques wont look so chizzled?

P.S. USE THE DTH ASAP!!!!!! ITS CRAZY
 
buster0371 said:
sounds chill, but wont creatine make you a little bloated so the obliques wont look so chizzled?

P.S. USE THE DTH ASAP!!!!!! ITS CRAZY
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eh Creatine in many cases can be used effectively on a cut. I don't see much if any bloat from neovar so it works out good for me.
 
buster0371 said:
awesome. so what suppliments you think you wanna use so far for this "cut"?
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Honestly I have no clue. Probably DTH and drive? but I am going to look for a fat burner I can run with DTH. I will also be doing cardio 2-3 times a week along with a 3 day a week lifting routine. I will for sure be using drive somewhere in there... maybe ephedrine with RPM in 2 week on/ 1 week off pulse. There are plenty of options for me. I am just happy because I get to try a few new supplements I have never used and some of my favorites I havent used in awhile.
 
so. tex what are your feelings on tren as far as strength and muscle fullness goes?
 
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Irish Cannon said:
LOL. That's exactly what I was typing.

There is no non-hormonal product out there that will pack 12lbs of LBM on you in a months time. Definitely more diet related.
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It's cool to see people stay up an with the progression of others, i just read from day one to now, my queestion to you, i have been on spawn today make 4 weeks pulsing, been lifting hard this past year, im up from 198 to 213 an lost 3% bodyfat, bench from 385 to 430, an only side i have seen is back pain, i just add more water and its gone, i still have 4 weeks to go, everything is going well, its my 3rd cycle of a prohor, am i the odd person out on these gains, i even hold back on some of my movements just to let my joints and body get use to the weigh before i step up extra reps on more weigh, what made me jump in on your convo, to hear this product does not affect the liver, would make me really want to try it next an if i got half the gain on strength a weigh gains i would be happy, so texas lifter,and iris cannon, does it compare to a spawn or another tren? sorry for the book
 
PCT Day1

Dosing: 2 scoops Endo amp, 1 scoop toco 8, 5 pumps Sustain Alpha, 2 Tabs T911


Nothing really to note today. I do feel better though for sure.
 
TexasLifter89 said:
PCT Day1

Dosing: 2 scoops Endo amp, 1 scoop toco 8, 5 pumps Sustain Alpha, 2 Tabs T911


Nothing really to note today. I do feel better though for sure.
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glad to hear your on PCT. Best of luck to ya brother. Since you only ran it for 3 weeks do you think your expensive ass PCT stack is worth it in this scenario? Maybe go with Reversitol, or 6 oxo and t-911?
 
buster0371 said:
glad to hear your on PCT. Best of luck to ya brother. Since you only ran it for 3 weeks do you think your expensive ass PCT stack is worth it in this scenario? Maybe go with Reversitol, or 6 oxo and t-911?
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yeah actually I do, I use sustain alpha solo sometimes and enjoy the benefits. I think it probably will have the best results similar to DTH out of all the test boosters I have tried thus far. It really takes my libido and moods to a different notch. toco 8 I ran through the cycle as well so this is just a continuation and endo amp is just there for health benefits as well. I have some revresitol, but am saving it, I have some 6oxo but I am saving it, and t911 I am running with this PCT since I already had started using it.


OVerall I will see some gains I expect throughout the PCT and even if not on PCT this was a stack I would consider to use for the health benefits/ regular natural T booster run.
 
buster0371 said:
so you HAVE run dth before? And DTH as a standalone and Sustain Alpha as a standalone yield similar effects?
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I have not run DTH before, but from what I have heard results wise I believe it should be similar to sustain alpha in terms of ability to boost libido and overall mood. I have however run sustain Alpha alone and I enjoyed it. I ran ti with a 5x5 program and within 5 weeks was doing all my max's for reps.
 
TexasLifter89 said:
I have not run DTH before, but from what I have heard results wise I believe it should be similar to sustain alpha in terms of ability to boost libido and overall mood. I have however run sustain Alpha alone and I enjoyed it. I ran ti with a 5x5 program and within 5 weeks was doing all my max's for reps.
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sounds very nice! Was there aggression or a short temper with sustain?
 
thebigt said:
so. tex what are your feelings on tren as far as strength and muscle fullness goes?
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daleden said:
It's cool to see people stay up an with the progression of others, i just read from day one to now, my queestion to you, i have been on spawn today make 4 weeks pulsing, been lifting hard this past year, im up from 198 to 213 an lost 3% bodyfat, bench from 385 to 430, an only side i have seen is back pain, i just add more water and its gone, i still have 4 weeks to go, everything is going well, its my 3rd cycle of a prohor, am i the odd person out on these gains, i even hold back on some of my movements just to let my joints and body get use to the weigh before i step up extra reps on more weigh, what made me jump in on your convo, to hear this product does not affect the liver, would make me really want to try it next an if i got half the gain on strength a weigh gains i would be happy, so texas lifter,and iris cannon, does it compare to a spawn or another tren? sorry for the book
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I was using regular 1-t, not 1-t tren. sorry guys, I wish I could help you out.
 
Sorry to hear things ended badly with the cycle man. I am glad you are taking control and putting the PHs aside tho. Best of luck bud!

Any sign of $$ yet?
 
Damn Tex, I stopped my 1T cycle for the same reason.

Edited: I'm stupid.
 
Wonder if PP can shed any light?
 
Hey guys, GMG I plan to possibly try another cycle of it a few years down the road at a lower dose.


As for PP shining the light at the cause, I don't know... hopefully Jeff or Eric can pop in here and give their thoughts.
 
yo man any sign of money? Please say yes!
 
I am eager to hear their response...this is so effed up
 
We have not had reports on ball pain that I am aware of. I have been searching for any info that I can find on this. I will see if Eric has anything.
 
GMG760 said:
Damn Tex, I stopped my 1T cycle for the same reason. I really wish I would have known it was the Damn 1T making my balls hurt. I don't blame you for stopping, the pain freaked me the f*ck out.

I was gonna run the rest of the 1T at 4 pumps ED maybe as a solo cycle in the future, but if this is what's gonna happen... f-that.
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What else were you running?? When was your last PH run before you did the 1-T? and what was it???
 
MaxGolf said:
What else were you running?? When was your last PH run before you did the 1-T? and what was it???
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MaxGolf said:
What else were you running?? When was your last PH run before you did the 1-T? and what was it???
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19-nor and halo. And I probably didn't wait long enough before my last cycle. All valid points to consider.

Looking back all on my part was stupid at the time... I quit a little under 2 weeks in... and honestly I should edit what I said ealier, as I really have no real evedence of what caused my pain since I was attempting to run a stack. Sorry to say something like that, I was typing like I was thinking out loud. apologies.
 
GMG760 said:
19-nor and halo. And I probably didn't wait long enough before my last cycle. All valid points to consider.

Looking back all on my part was stupid at the time... I quit a little under 2 weeks in... and honestly I should edit what I said ealier, as I really have no real evedence of what caused my pain since I was attempting to run a stack. Sorry to say something like that, I was typing like I was thinking out loud. apologies.
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Not a problem. Thank you for being honest with your reply.
Not taking the time between cycles and bad choices in PCT have been what I have found to cause this pain, so far. I will keep reading into this and I will let you know if I find anything.

Jeff
 
But Texaslifter didn't have a previous cycle and still had nut pain. I sure hope my berries don't hurt
 
hey i just saw your pics on page 5 texas lifter. lookin VERY cut up:35:

Your avi does not do you justice, no offense.:thumbsdown::Flush:

so are you technically an ecto or a meso or a hybrid?
Also, have you gained much size or definition since those pics?
 
buster0371 said:
hey i just saw your pics on page 5 texas lifter. lookin VERY cut up:35:

Your avi does not do you justice, no offense.:thumbsdown::Flush:

so are you technically an ecto or a meso or a hybrid?
Also, have you gained much size or definition since those pics?
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Tex isn't an ecto... he gains muscle way too easy to be ecto.
 
buster0371 said:
hey i just saw your pics on page 5 texas lifter. lookin VERY cut up:35:

Your avi does not do you justice, no offense.:thumbsdown::Flush:

so are you technically an ecto or a meso or a hybrid?
Also, have you gained much size or definition since those pics?
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GMG760 said:
Tex isn't an ecto... he gains muscle way too easy to be ecto.
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Yeah I am pretty much a full blown Mesomorph....when I actually devote myself (unlike the last week and a half because of school).


Today just finished my dreaded streak of tests before finals and it sucked. PCT is going smoothly, pain has subsided and I haven't noticed as much hair loss (i did get a haircut though so this may skew that). Overall I believe I made a smart decision ending the cycle to prevent any furthering of problems or anything new coming up.

I am going to be going to the gym tonight after a huge nap to celebrate the ending of my semester exams pre-finals and will update that tonight. I am feeling larger, but I plan to hit my upper chest for awhile moreso than everything else to get some good development going before it gets too deep into the summer time.

Buster- those pictures are no where near cut for me (I am lucky enough that I never get really above 15-17%), I wish I had some of my old ones to post... just wait till over the summer when its all out lifting season...
 
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