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  1. am i leaner this time?

    so the first pic is before my cut.. it's at 179lbs.. after that i cut down to 168.. it's taken me 6 months to get up to 182lbs.. do i look leaner than i did at 179? i'm hoping so.. tell me if my bulk was a waste..
  2. those who have overcome a lagging chest

    first and foremost.. i only want input from those who have had a weak chest after putting emphasis on it for over 4 years... i dont want to hear what someone does for their chest that has no trouble building a chest. i've literally tried everything for my chest for the past 8 years. i've tried...
  3. question of ethics

    first things first.. read this entire post before you flame me ok. so whenever someone asks me if i'm natural i always tell them this long boring story: i've taken 3 cycles" hdrol, havoc, and mdrol. BUT... every one of them effected my appetite so badly that i was only able to put on about 2-3...
  4. will pulsing help my appetite

    so every PH/compound i've tried has killed my appetite and i've made little to no gains.. i've tried hdrol, havoc, and mdrol and gained basically nothing and i did them all correctly and with proper support loading and pct.. for further info see the link.. but someone mentioned that i pulse...
  5. competition diet without competing?

    Ok.. in this post I have a few links so just bare with me… has anyone dieted down to about 5% just to get the rewards of the rebound? I always thought the rebound was just water weight but I’ve read a lot where your body has the ability to put on 8-10 lbs of pure muscle those first 4 weeks. So...
  6. everything kills my appetite

    ok.. so over the past 2 years i've run a cycle of hdrol, havoc, and mdrol with a combined total gain of about 8 lbs.. yes you read it correctly everytime i start something the first few days are fine and then my appetite crashes. i literally wake up stuffed. even with my mdrol i started out...
  7. quest for single digit bf

    so i figured what the hell let's post some progress.. so the first picture isn't actually the start.. it's 2 weeks into my diet and taken in the morning.. so that was as lean as i was.. these pics were just taken (9 pm) and i had my cheat meal.. haha.. so i was a lot leaner this mornin.. but oh...
  8. another "is it gyno" thread

    i check for gyno multiple times a day.. my nipples have gotten puffy with hdrol, havoc, and now mdrol.. i hold fat on my chest so i wouldn't be able to tell the difference between fat and gyno anyways.. well now there is a spot on my chest that is sore and i dont know if i should be worried...
  9. tumtum's mdrol mass log

    CURRENT stats- 5'9.5 @ 176.6lbs around 11-12% bf, 23 yrs old, 7 yrs of lifting i'm preloading my cycle with 2 weeks of CEL cycle support. weeks 1-3 CEL mdrol 10/20/20 and CEL cycle support (may run a 4th week) weeks 4-7 Nolva 30/20/10/10 and CEL PCT support will run lean xtreme the last 2...
  10. first time using mdrol

    CURRENT stats- 5'9.5 @ 175lbs around 11-12% bf, 23 yrs old, 7 yrs of lifting i'm preloading my cycle with 2 weeks of CEL cycle support. weeks 1-3 CEL mdrol 10/20/20 and CEL cycle support weeks 4-7 Nolva 20/20/10/10 and CEL PCT support will run lean xtreme the last 2 weeks of pct to battle...
  11. mdrol after keto?

    would it be a bad idea to start my three week mdrol cycle 1 week after i stop my keto diet? the time frame would be... this weekend i carb load... monday thru friday i am in keto and then saturday i start reintroducing my carbs again.. the following friday i would begin my mdrol at 10mg.. is...
  12. 1st mdrol cycle planning

    CURRENT stats- 5'9.5 @ 176lbs around 11% bf, 23 yrs old, 7 yrs of lifting down to around 170 at single digit bf but the end of this cut. i will finish cutting in 3 weeks, the last three weeks of this cut will be a keto diet. so far i'm enjoying the sausage and steak haha. down to business...
  13. time between keto and mdrol

    i'm planning on finishing my cut with the keto diet. i'm only going to be on this keto for 3 weeks. i'm planning on running a mdrol cycle at 10/20/20. now i know that when u come off keto you need to slowly reintroduce carbs to your body. remember i'm only on keto for 3 weeks. i also know...
  14. 4 weeks cutting progress

    i've been cutting for for 4 weeks now and i've shed about 8 lbs.. i'm trying to get to single digit bf... i think i'm going to cut for 4-6 more weeks and after that.. i cant take it anymore... the first pic is at 188lbs in the morning.. the second is at 181 at night.. (wish i would have taken...
  15. 3rd cycle.. kinda

    i'm trying to plan a cycle but i'm curious to everyone's opinion.. i've done a cycle of hdrol and a cycle of havoc in the past... but both times my diet turned to **** and i gained a total of about 5 lbs on both of them combined.. i have a good diet going into it and then i rely on it doing the...
  16. 2nd try at cutting

    at one point i was 200 lbs.. i cut down to about 180.. and seemed to lose little fat...i bulked back up to 190 and it seems it was little muscle.. i take things slow.. i dont know what my problem is... but enough of that... i'm currently 188 and i would like to see single digit BF.... i would...
  17. planning my first havoc cycle

    I’m a few weeks away from my havoc cycle and here goes the plan. I dieted down from 197 to about 180.. I plan on bulking until I hit about 185 before I start the cycle… I’ll be taking pics before and after (if it’s successful) I’m debating if I want to all out cram food down my throat.. or I...
  18. planning havoc cycle diet

    I’m plannin a havoc cycle in a few weeks.. once I can figure out how I’m going to get my nolva for my labrats.. but anyways I’m trying to plan my diet.. I’ve been cutting for about 12 weeks… and lost about 13 lbs… not a lot.. but I’m paranoid about losing too much too fast.. and therefore I...
  19. massfx 2-4 weeks before cycle?

    would it be a bad idea to use massfx for 4 weeks... 2-4 weeks before a week of havoc? i'm guessing so but if not let me know
  20. what to run for my 2nd cycle

    for my first cycle I ran hdrol for 5.5 weeks.. i started out at 50 and ran it up to 100mg. My gains were decent.. about 7 lbs.. but stopped halfway through the cycle due to school stress. little bit of history on me.... i'll be 23 next week.. been lifting for 7 years.. 5' 9.5" at 184lbs...
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