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Patrick Arnold said:
nothing in my write up is a lie or misleading or lacks scientific justification. I write that stuff with alot of thought and alot of care.
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But, in evaluating the bioavailability of resveratrol, it should
also be accounted for that in red wine, the main dietary
source of resveratrol and piceid in the western diet, numerous
polyphenols, like stilbenes, flavonoids, or anthocyanins
occur. It cannot be ruled out, that resveratrol metabolism in
vivo is inhibited by other polyphenols due to competitive
metabolization via the same phase II enzyme systems.
Although by now, after coadministration of resveratrol, catechin,
and quercetin to rats no inhibition of resveratrol metabolism
could be observed, in vitro experiments showed the
inhibition of resveratrol glucuronidation and sulfation in
liver and duodenum samples by quercetin [14, 24]. Furthermore,
it is known that epicatechin gallate and epigallocatechin
gallate are potent inhibitors of human liver sulfotransferases
[34].
 
Patrick Arnold said:
why do i sound so angry in my posts?
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maybe you've developed some new chemical compound that makes you that way, Dr David Banner sound familar?
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Patrick Arnold; said:
i am a nice person, really
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I hear someone saying "Prove it"!
 
What is this "natural decarboxylase inhibitor"?

Any PMID's on it?

Does this particular decarboxylase inhibitor inhibit the effect of B-6 on the dopa pathway similar to the prescription decarboxylase inhibitor Sinemet? Or should one avoid taking B-6 at the same time as 1-Carboxy supps? These are things that people should know before taking the supp...and should be included in the write up. Popping a B-50 cap is a pretty common occurance.
 
Dr. Gonzo said:
What is this "natural decarboxylase inhibitor"?

Any PMID's on it?

Does this particular decarboxylase inhibitor inhibit the effect of B-6 on the dopa pathway similar to the prescription decarboxylase inhibitor Sinemet? Or should one avoid taking B-6 at the same time as 1-Carboxy supps? These are things that people should know before taking the supp...and should be included in the write up. Popping a B-50 cap is a pretty common occurance.
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please don't tell me that you are asking this question as if yoiu think there really is such stuff in this product

but you are absolutely right and i remember the L-dopa i used to get had a written warning on it not to take B-6. B-6 greatly enhances the peripheral decarboxylation reaction
 
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that was not the origninal contaner

the original had an orange label kinda cheap lookin

the guy that had that company became stinking rich. he was kind of a christian religious fanatic. weird thing about this industry as there are alot of successful born again supp company owners with big egos and disreputable marketing techniques
 
Kinda like Pat Robertson. He had this protein power drink or something and he claimed that it helped him do leg presses with 2,300lbs.
 
ReaperX said:
Kinda like Pat Robertson. He had this protein power drink or something and he claimed that it helped him do leg presses with 2,300lbs.
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Although, is it any different than Ronnie Coleman saying NO-Xplode won him his 8th Olympia?
 
Patrick Arnold said:
you are kidding

thats just weird
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Supposedly all he did was push it off the locks, and set it back down. So he moved it all of an inch.


Still, I'm surprised he didn't poop himself.


I live in pat's shadow, here in VA beach, so we get a lot of fun news like that. Plus my friend works at a nutritional store, and says he gets two kinds of clients; they are either looking for a bowel cleanser or for some pat robertson CBN protein live forever concoction.
 
johnyq said:
Supposedly all he did was push it off the locks, and set it back down. So he moved it all of an inch.


Still, I'm surprised he didn't poop himself.


I live in pat's shadow, here in VA beach, so we get a lot of fun news like that. Plus my friend works at a nutritional store, and says his clients are either looking for a bowel cleanser or for some pat robertson CBN protein live forever concoction.
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satan's servants often will reside in the colon which they use as a base to subvert your soul and mind.

the colonic must be done with holy water or you will only aggravate them
 
when 11oxo or any new anticipated product comes out the majority of the reviews are going to be good. Thats called hype and placebo....i dont have proof but im willing to bet that stuff probably doesnt do anything anabolic, its an androgenic cort blocker.........being andro doesnt mean sh1t, and for the price, to run anything worth trying for anabolic effects from it....overpriced.
 
Id like to see some chemist or anyone really knowledgable go at a few of your products and see what comes of it PA. Im not hating on you or anything id just like to see the tables turned for once.
 
Sooner u guys figure out pat man is the main man around here the better off we'll all be

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or maybe he looks more kick a*s without the shades (looks quite stalloney actually)

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johnyq said:
Supposedly all he did was push it off the locks, and set it back down. So he moved it all of an inch.


Still, I'm surprised he didn't poop himself.


I live in pat's shadow, here in VA beach, so we get a lot of fun news like that. Plus my friend works at a nutritional store, and says he gets two kinds of clients; they are either looking for a bowel cleanser or for some pat robertson CBN protein live forever concoction.
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dang that reminds me of this srry guy at the gym today it was really annoyin me....he put on 405 on the smith bench press wit the safeties real high so that if he could lift it it would move at max an inch and he kept trying to do it for about an hour and couldnt get it to budge....
 
b unit; said:
or maybe he looks more kick a*s without the shades (looks quite stalloney actually)...
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The face hardly matches to body!
 
pistonpump said:
when 11oxo or any new anticipated product comes out the majority of the reviews are going to be good. Thats called hype and placebo....i dont have proof but im willing to bet that stuff probably doesnt do anything anabolic, its an androgenic cort blocker.........being andro doesnt mean sh1t, and for the price, to run anything worth trying for anabolic effects from it....overpriced.
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right. we all appreciate your bet (guess). sure its really educated
 
pistonpump said:
Id like to see some chemist or anyone really knowledgable go at a few of your products and see what comes of it PA. Im not hating on you or anything id just like to see the tables turned for once.
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ever think for a moment that perhaps that i am right
 
Patrick Arnold; said:
true. my body is somewhat bloaty like my face but i have been working on that lately
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Oh! I had actually assumed your physique was better than the one shown. Mea cupla!
 
OK.......Sorry if this is a stupid question. But are we now leaning towards the possibility that Powerfull is actually
L-dopa, and if not, what the hell is it...........powder?
 
json75 said:
OK.......Sorry if this is a stupid question. But are we now leaning towards the possibility that Powerfull is actually
L-dopa, and if not, what the hell is it...........powder?
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it was admitted that it was l-dopa about 2 pages ago
 
b unit said:
at the end of the day regardless of whatever supps are used or whatever chems like test or gh etc are injected or ingested nothing builds muscle better than lifting weights with great nutrition and adequate rest

way too many people think that the answer to building muscle lies first and foremost in pill form or in a syringe!
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that rest is hard to come by when you work two jobs.. lol
 
thesinner said:
I wasn't under the impression you were marketting it as an 'anabolic' product.
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i am avoiding that angle in my marketing. since you seem like an intelligent guy you probably will agree with me when i say that this is behavior alot of other companies would be wise to emulate. It would be for the ultimate benefit of all companies and consumers alike.

when people bust my balls (not that you are doing that here) for marketing this primarily for its cortisol blocker effects i just don't get it. certainly i would make more money if i yelled "anabolic" like other companies do, so you cannot say its out of greed.
 
Patrick Arnold said:
i am avoiding that angle in my marketing. since you seem like an intelligent guy you probably will agree with me when i say that this is behavior alot of other companies would be wise to emulate. It would be for the ultimate benefit of all companies and consumers alike.

when people bust my balls (not that you are doing that here) for marketing this primarily for its cortisol blocker effects i just don't get it. certainly i would make more money if i yelled "anabolic" like other companies do, so you cannot say its out of greed.
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You'd make even more money if you yelled "weightloss" and stuck some GTX and 1200mg of caffeine in it.

I think Jacob gets really excited about his products when they come out. I'm not saying that's a bad thing; it's good to be passionate about your work, but it definitely reflects in the writeups that he does.
 
pistonpump said:
Id like to see some chemist or anyone really knowledgable go at a few of your products and see what comes of it PA. Im not hating on you or anything id just like to see the tables turned for once.
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Well I have a Cissus test run by a University in India lead by Chemist with above a BA in chemistry, but just waiting on word from PA. WIth His permission, I will run 3-4 more tests to validate.

IF PA with a BA in chemistry is the last word in Truth, the University test will be omnipotent.
 
While degrees and formal education are important........ we must always bear in mind that many (perhaps the majority?) of MD's and PhD's say supplements do not work. And proceed to tell you the best way to lose weight is to park further away and walk...... on your way into a restaurant, where you are to order steamed vegetables.

Sarcastically, is my point made? So what if PA has a BA.... he knows his chemicals.
 
You know what.......if a product is good, it will sell itself. People will try it, like it, use again, and tell their friends.
 
Lanbane said:
While degrees and formal education are important........ we must always bear in mind that many (perhaps the majority?) of MD's and PhD's say supplements do not work. And proceed to tell you the best way to lose weight is to park further away and walk...... on your way into a restaurant, where you are to order steamed vegetables.

Sarcastically, is my point made? So what if PA has a BA.... he knows his chemicals.
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Maybe because doctors need to study disease or surgery. I'm sure they have time to read the recent issue of MD or FLEX. Such a whack arguement.

You should order steamed vegetables and walk before buying a weight loss supplement...makes perfect unsarcastic sense.

But You think PA knows his chemicals because you do not know any better nor should you. I'm would not expect an accountant to understand organic bio chemistry. In the eyes of the consumer, PA is the "Sh*t" becuase he designed a few steroids and made Costas live.

When I talk Doctorates degree in India, I'm speaking in Chemistry.
 
Patrick Arnold said:
satan's servants often will reside in the colon which they use as a base to subvert your soul and mind.

the colonic must be done with holy water or you will only aggravate them
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Here PA finally joins in just having some fun and cracking a joke, and nobody notices...


And how did I miss this thread the last few days? dang. Whats funny is this has me ready to order some bulk 1c just to try it and compare. I've been using bulk powerfull for a while now, and what I find funny is that no two containers have ever tasted or even looked the same (out of 3 so far). different shades of brown, and different fineness of powder even. The most recent was lightest (a light milk chocolate color) and the finest powder. I mostly take the powerfull for the relaxation and sleep effects, but do try to cycle off for a week every month just in case.
 
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