RPM FAQs
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supersoldier
She thinks my traps'rrrr sexy!
IGF-2/NeoVar/RPM stack: awesome synergism w/o pro-hormones/pro=steroids!!!!!!! THE most effective non-steroid stack on the market (and also the best-kept secret)!!!
-Huge elevation of T:E ratios and T:C ratios
-Anti-catabolic
-Large elevations in free testosterone and gh
-Major increases in hardness and vascularity literally a "dry pump"
-Phenomenal strength increases!!!!!
-lipolytic
-drastic improvements in body comp as well
Try it and FEEL the difference!!!!!
I could help spread the word!
:dance:
rms80
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I could help spread the word!
Absolutely!!!
rms80
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supersoldier
She thinks my traps'rrrr sexy!
Right now I'm strongly considering not taking A.A.S anymore. There's so much natural stuff out that will give really good gains without HPTA suppression and liver toxicity, amongst other sides.
icey
New member
I tried pro hormones a few years ago before the ban and hated them. So many irresponsible companies were out to make a buck and just threw out outrageous claims and also did not educate their customers on possible side effects. I mean none of them mentioned things like post cycle therapy or aromatization (sp?), getting shut down, etc.
At least with A A S you are most likely educated about how to use them.
Good to see responsible companies pushing out herbals that are typically low on sides.
Good luck with your decision bro I'm sure it will workout whatever you decide to do.
rms80
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No ****!!
You are about the same place I was a while back.....completely understandable- I am not anti-anabolic steroids by any stretch of the imagination- but I do think there are some great alternatives out there!!!!
wrestler119
Member
I have read a few things about when you should dose RPM relative to when you eat. What do you guys think is best?
rms80
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vtstone
New member
IGF-2/NeoVar/RPM stack: awesome synergism w/o pro-hormones/pro=steroids!!!!!!! THE most effective non-steroid stack on the market (and also the best-kept secret
-Huge elevation of T:E ratios and T:C ratios
-Anti-catabolic
-Large elevations in free testosterone and gh
-Major increases in hardness and vascularity literally a "dry pump"
-Phenomenal strength increases!!!!!
-lipolytic
-drastic improvements in body comp as well
Try it and FEEL the difference!!!!!
i am new to using t-boosters and the like but as of recently i have been following along on this board and others and trying to learn as much as i can. i am debating using a stack like this. i'm just worried about the effects coming off of this. previously i've just been using creatine/no/bcaa products. do you guys think an rpm stack would be more effective for building lean mass than say a controlled labs stack with green magnitude/purple wraath/white blood. i need to buy now and that's what i'm debating. thanks
rms80
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RPM/IGF-2 will be extremely effective- with no PCT required- it will give you some fantastic lean mass gains!!!
rms80
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You can take them together, but start small....
Manu20
Superman
RPM is best dosed on an empty stomach
Its recommended on an empty stomach, do u recommend eating after u take it preworkout?
rms80
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rms80
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I messed with the formula a bunch- and found Arg. base was the best way to go (we used it in both betas and the formulas worked well(- it may get changed in the near future though- I found a way to make RPM even better
Great question!!!!
rms80
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That's not how we operate :cheers:
max silver
Well-known member
Has there been any reports of prostate difficulties with this supplement? From time to time I suffer from flareups when I overuse stimulants, so I could see that taking this product twice daily might cause me problems in that regard.
What is the approximate amount of caffeine per cap in RPM?
What is the approximate amount of caffeine per cap in RPM?
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rms80
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No- but I have heard of ephedrine causing some issues like that- but not necessarily caffeine- I will look around some more for you.
As for the approximate amt. of caffeine- the naringin in RPM completely changes the pharmacokinetics of everything in the compound- so even though the dosage of caffeine is relatively moderate in RPM- it will "feel" much higher than normal....
Outside Backer
Well-known member
i too have had minor prostate issues in the past nothing a DR said was an issue. some very good stims caused the issue
Non ever on rpm
ive also taken it with food as someone has asked and I didnt notice any difference
Non ever on rpm
ive also taken it with food as someone has asked and I didnt notice any difference
max silver
Well-known member
I'm quite used to the effects of naringin on caffeine, as I always have a grapefruit in my pre-workout meal, which is followed by a caffeine containing stimulant product. I'm more interested in an approximate caffeine amount so I can make an educated guess as to what my maximum RPM dose would be, based on ability to sleep and tolerance to caffeine.
Boris
New member
I've been trying RPM for the last week, and it's certainly working very well as a stimulant for me.
I'm confused about one thing from the FAQ, though. It says:
"RPM does NOT require post cycle therapy b/c it works through secondary characteristics (AI effect, effects on SHBG, effects on T:E and T:C ratio)"
This suggests that RPM doesn't directly interact with androgen receptors. But then in two other places it talks about testosterone-mimetic properties:
"RPM resides in a completely new product category of its own: It is an A-CESE (Anabolic-Cognitive Energy System Enhancer) with P-SARM (Phytochemical Selective Androgen Receptor Modulator) characteristics. This means that the product that exhibits testosterone-mimetic, anti-catabolic, and aromatase-inhibiting properties"
"To be considered a SARM (selective androgen receptor modulator), a compound must have the following characteristics:
• Stimulate increases in strength and fat-free mass through testosterone mimetic properties,
• Support bone growth
• Maintain and / or restore sexual function and virility
• Orally bioavaliable
• Does not effect blood pressure or blood lipids.
RPM fits every one of these criteria for a SARM."
Surely these statements are contradictory? If it only acts indirectly via stimulation of natural testosterone production, it cannot also be considered a testosterone mimetic?
I'm confused about one thing from the FAQ, though. It says:
"RPM does NOT require post cycle therapy b/c it works through secondary characteristics (AI effect, effects on SHBG, effects on T:E and T:C ratio)"
This suggests that RPM doesn't directly interact with androgen receptors. But then in two other places it talks about testosterone-mimetic properties:
"RPM resides in a completely new product category of its own: It is an A-CESE (Anabolic-Cognitive Energy System Enhancer) with P-SARM (Phytochemical Selective Androgen Receptor Modulator) characteristics. This means that the product that exhibits testosterone-mimetic, anti-catabolic, and aromatase-inhibiting properties"
"To be considered a SARM (selective androgen receptor modulator), a compound must have the following characteristics:
• Stimulate increases in strength and fat-free mass through testosterone mimetic properties,
• Support bone growth
• Maintain and / or restore sexual function and virility
• Orally bioavaliable
• Does not effect blood pressure or blood lipids.
RPM fits every one of these criteria for a SARM."
Surely these statements are contradictory? If it only acts indirectly via stimulation of natural testosterone production, it cannot also be considered a testosterone mimetic?
rms80
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Good question- and no, not contradictory
Certain parts of the formula DO act indirectly on factors influence the test:est ratio and test:cortisol ratio, and certain parts (icariin specifically) do have testosterone mimetic properties. Icariin has displayed testosterone mimetic properties on enhancing bone mass, as an anti-depressant, as a PDE5 inhibitor, and as a glucocorticoid antagonist (competes for the same receptors as cortisol). That being said- ALL of the receptors that icariin effects and their mechanisms of action have not been thoroughly researched- but icariin has been documented to have at least SOME testosterone mimetic effects....Asian J Androl. 2006 Sep;8(5):601-5. Epub 2006 Jun 5
The testosterone mimetic properties of icariin.
Zhang ZB, Yang QT.
Department of Urology, Second Affiliated Hospital, Shantou University Medical College, Shantou 515041, China. [email protected]
AIM: To evaluate the testosterone mimetic properties of icariin. METHODS: Forty-eight healthy male Sprague-Dawley rats at the age of 15 months were randomly divided into four groups with 12 rats each: the control group (C), the model group (M), the icariin group (ICA) and the testosterone group (T). The reproductive system was damaged by cyclophosphamide (intraperitoneal injection, 20 mg/kg x day) for 5 consecutive days for groups M, ICA and T, at the sixth day, ICA (gastric gavage, 200 mg/kg x day) for the ICA group and sterandryl (subcutaneous injection, 5 mg/rat . day) for the T group for 7 consecutive days, respectively. The levels of serum testosterone, luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle stimulating hormone (FSH), serum bone Gla-protein (BGP) and tartrate-resistant acid phosphatase activity in serum (StrACP) were determined. The histological changes of the testis and the penis were observed by microscope with hematoxylin-eosin (HE) staining and terminal deoxynucleotidyl transferase biotin-dUTP-X nick end labeling (TUNEL), respectively. RESULTS: (1) Icariin improved the condition of reproductive organs and increased the circulating levels of testosterone. (2) Icariin treatment also improved the steady-state serum BGP and might have promoted bone formation. At the same time, it decreased the serum levels of StrACP and might have reduced the bone resorption. (3) Icarrin suppressed the extent of apoptosis of penile cavernosal smooth muscle cells. CONCLUSION: Icariin has testosterone mimetic properties and has therapeutic potential in the management of hypoandrogenism.
DCbuilder
Member
I'm sure this has been asked and answered, so feel free to link me to the right location.
I'm going for a recomp and already am using DCP and Camphibolic, along with Powerfull. I want to add in another product to help potentiate fat loss and provide a little kick, and RPM sounds like that product. But it says to just take prior to workout. I want the fat burning affects, so can I take 1 dose in AM and 1 dose in PM (I workout at 7pm)?
What would be the optimum dosing to help burn fat while retaining muscle?
I'm going for a recomp and already am using DCP and Camphibolic, along with Powerfull. I want to add in another product to help potentiate fat loss and provide a little kick, and RPM sounds like that product. But it says to just take prior to workout. I want the fat burning affects, so can I take 1 dose in AM and 1 dose in PM (I workout at 7pm)?
What would be the optimum dosing to help burn fat while retaining muscle?
Vitruvian
O.G. Appnut
DC,
Huge apology for taking so long to get back to you. What you have outlined above will work amazingly... however, I caution you to start by taking your PM dose a little earlier than just preworkout, to make sure you can get to sleep ok.
If you aren't on RPM yet, start with a smaller than recommended dose in the AM, followed by the recommended dose at least/about 5-6 hours before you plan on laying down to sleep. From there, you can increase, and possibly move your PM dose closer to pre-workout.
Clear as mud?
rms80
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rms80
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I would take it about 45 minutes pre-workout, and add in some Steel Edge with it- they seem to go together really well, and SE works immediately...
Jet
Member
So would you drink your pre WO shake before or after that dose? And how long before/after?
AnonyMoose
Well-known member
should it only be taken pre wo on workout days only. what about non-work out days?
Vitruvian
O.G. Appnut
Use on non-workout days will be up to you...... if you only want energy boost in the gym, don't worry about using it on non-workout days. I would strongly suggest using it daily however. The results that build up are quite nice. At minimum go 2 caps on non-workout days.
I use RPM 2x/day on workout days. 1x/day on non-workout days.
I use RPM 2x/day on workout days. 1x/day on non-workout days.
NeedleDick
Member
Can't seem to find an answer searching around, but would RPM be safe to take if one were being tested (NCAA)? Thanks appreciate it!
DCbuilder
Member
Are you doing this to build up stores of icariin or for the stim effects?
rms80
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Yup- RPM won't make you fail a drug test- RPM is an unfair advantage!!!!
TheMyth
RADIATE LOVER
Unfair advantage is an understatement Dirk!
SufferingEd
Member
I am kind of new to the supplement world, but can Creatine and RPM be taken together? I take Creatine pre and post workout.
rms80
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Absolutely- they stack very well!!!
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john123131
Well-known member
Ive been on it since its release and im good....still dominating the gym too
strategicmove
Legend
Shouldn't RPM be cycled 8 weeks on, 4 weeks off?rms80; said:
rms80
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Nah- I have taken it continously for 5 mos. and still have great results from it
Force of Green
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It's not just a matter of the caffeine content, it's also a matter of the ingredient they added that enhances the absorption and extends the half-life (naringin).
I've been using RPM now for some time and I only take 2 caps in the morning and that's all. The response curve for my body is very smooth and the effects last for some time.
I just got a new tea product (Tea-3) that has some caffeine from green tea, yerba mate, and oolong tea and I may have to adjust the dosage to one cap. I'd imagine that when Drive comes out, I'll be doing 2 Drive caps and 1 RPM cap/ 2x per day. I like getting the most out of my workout, but I also don't like jacking myself up for each session with by doubling up on caffeine and other stims. One becomes so reliant on it that he or she can't perform a good workout without it.
SufferingEd
Member
I am ordering 3 bottles of RPM on Friday. I was thinking of taking it with Leviathan but read where it is also a stim and you should not take to much stims together. Why is this? Also what would be a good fat burner to mix with RPM if I do not take Leviathan.