dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
I would definitely take it down some. Some YHCl is bound to go systemic, and the question would be how sensitive are you?
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I would definitely take it down some. Some YHCl is bound to go systemic, and the question would be how sensitive are you?
psychospic
Member
I am assuming I am not too sensitive. I weigh 220 and felt no sides from 25 mgs of YCL I was taking daily. I started at 15 then slowly bumped up until I reached 25 I was following the formula given in one of Par Deus' write ups about how many mgs per pound of bodyweight, then I went over a little and stayed at 25 as I felt no harsh sides.
How much YCL is in Lipo-ultra anyway?
dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
I think Lipo-Ultra contains about 4 grams, though it has been a LONG time since I was in charge of production at Avant.
EasyEJL
Never enough
Ok, so recipe question. The 8oz comes with 6g of yohimbine, 3g of caffeine. From what i've read here, looks like 10g total is max that will squeeze in. I've read bits and driblets about the value of replacing the caffeine with nicotine, and about capsacin. I ordered the bulk RK with it, that I can either add to this or take orally or both. I'm currently on a CKD diet, loosing about 2 - 2.5 pounds a week. What would be my most beneficial mix to loose the love handles, and maximize ab definition over the next 8 weeks? I've used capsacin for arthritis relief before, so I can tolerate it fine. Painful, but eh, so what. So is trying to climb stairs 60 pounds overweight. And I'm motivated as heck too.
Also, just as comedy, if its so effective at localized fat loss, wouldn't you loose all the fat in your hands?
Also, just as comedy, if its so effective at localized fat loss, wouldn't you loose all the fat in your hands?
dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
No need to add capsaicin, since it comes in a separate cream. I would personally add 2 grams of caffeine, the YHCl, and 1-2 grams of RKs.
As for your hands, there is not much fat on them at all...only hair (well, unless you took your priest's advice and stopped that nasty practice.)
EasyEJL
Never enough
Guess I have to hunt around for the capsaicin then, i'm sure i have a tube here somewheres. I guess I may as well start that right away? Since i'm already at 6gm of CLA, 3-4g of HMB, omega 3-6-9 out the wazoo, and in strong ketosis, my body is definitely fueling off the fat. So just mobilizing more from that area should do the trick!
Thanks for the help. Now I just have to decide what to do with a spare gram of caffeine
100mg to a cup of coffee, so I guess dumping it into a relatively fresh jug of whey powder and shaking to mix would work so long as its more than 10 servings worth.Thanks for the help!
EasyEJL
Never enough
Last dumb question, are there any of the essential oils that adding could be of benefit? My wife + kids make soap, candles etc, and we've got around 30-40 different real essential oils, not just the scented stuff. I'm not sure offhand what I have, but if there are any that are of particular value, i'll check.
dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
Good question...if you post a list, I can run a quick search. I know peppermint oil would help slightly increase penetration.
I have some other oils on a list I keep in my head for future products (clove oil being one).
EasyEJL
Never enough
I'll check when I get home. I know offhand I do have peppermint, spearmint, orange, tangerine, lime, lemongrass, clove, cinnamon, ginger, ylang ylang, hmm can't recall much more specifically. a bunch of tree ones too and a few florals.
EasyEJL
Never enough
Ok heres what i have
Lavender
Tea Tree
Peppermint
Ylang-Ylang
Eucalyptus
Orange
Ginger
Lemon
Clove
Lemongrass
Geranium
Cedarwood
Palmarosa
Niaouli
Citronella
Basil
Tangerine
Cinnamon
Lime
Spearmint
Wintergreen
Birch
Cajeput
Fir Needle
Litsea
Patchouli
Camphor
Anise
Spruce
Petitgrain
I picked up some Capzasin (brand named) in a little rollon type container from walgreens
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Which seems handy, it won't end up all over my hands that way. So I should just rub that on to help mobilze the fat cells in the areas I plan to use lipoderm on right?
Fabulous One
Active member
Try this one...its bad ass for sure.
Nicoflex
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illfoo
New member
That Capzasin is hot! I have the exact same stuff and wow... it takes some getting used to. Sometimes it's not so bad, but other times it feels like the deepest pits of hell on your stomach, especially after workouts and cardio.
There have been days that I have worked out 12 hours after application, and I want to stab myself because it burns so bad. Maybe I'm just a little girl.
There have been numerous times that I've had to apply GENEROUS amounts of aloe vera to my abs... :rant:
There have been days that I have worked out 12 hours after application, and I want to stab myself because it burns so bad. Maybe I'm just a little girl.
There have been numerous times that I've had to apply GENEROUS amounts of aloe vera to my abs... :rant:
EasyEJL
Never enough
What I thought was interesting is that in the rollon its 1 oz of .15% strength. The walgreens brand was 1.5 oz of .1% strength (so same total capsacin load), but the name brand in the nice rollon bottle was cheaper. Seemed silly to me. Its hot but eh, c'est la vie. how often should I be swabbing myself down with it? as soon as it stops burning?
EasyEJL
Never enough
Raspberry Ketones don't burn...and they work the same way.
I'll be using RK too, once it gets here. I just have no patience, but do have a walgreens up the street. So will using the capzacin separately be a waste then if i'm putting 1g of RK into the lipoderm?
EasyEJL
Never enough
Surprisingly, the capzasin doesn't hurt that badly rubbed on the gut. my knees ached a bit and I tried it there, that was completely different, really painful. I didn't feel the muscle or arthritis pain tho
dsade, was there anything but the peppermint in that list of oils above worth adding other than to make me smell pretty
dsade, was there anything but the peppermint in that list of oils above worth adding other than to make me smell pretty
dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
Actually, I as just getting ready to post my experience and advice.
The bottles is mostly full, but there should be enough room to create an air bubble which will mix the formula.
I recommend folding a business card lengthwise. Dump about 1/4 of the Lipoderm Mix onto the card, wrap your hand around the rim of the bottle (to prevent spillover) then position the business card right over the rim, holding the card with your thumb and middle finger.. Tap the back of the business card with your index finger, and the powder will fall into the bottle cleanly. Please the lid on the bottle and shake the hell out of it.
Open the lid, and there might be white powder around the rim...use the straw from the pump to push it down, or calmly tap the bottom of the bottle onto the counter until it falls in.Repeat 1/4 at a time until everything is mixed.
dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
So far the Clove oil and the Camphor, along with the peppermint oil, look promising.Surprisingly, the capzasin doesn't hurt that badly rubbed on the gut. my knees ached a bit and I tried it there, that was completely different, really painful. I didn't feel the muscle or arthritis pain tho
dsade, was there anything but the peppermint in that list of oils above worth adding other than to make me smell pretty
I apologize I haven't been able to search them all, as today was the resupply of DCP and it is has been horrendously busy here.
EasyEJL
Never enough
Its all good, thanks for looking at all. You guys have way better service than any online sites i've dealt with before. And besides, its not like the oils are going anywheres, or like the lipoderm arrived yet so i've got plenty of time to figure out if there is anythinge else to add
. Its the internet life, impatience abounds.jcam222
Board Supporter
cool thanks for the quick answer
dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
My pleasure...let me know how well you do. If it really is too full, pour some out...add the actives as above, then add it back in.
dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
Supposed to have come with a pump, yes.
EasyEJL
Never enough
Ah well, story of my life. Is it a pretty common size? I'm going to Target anyhow in a little while. What sort of sprayer is it? a fine mist? Or maybe some cheap product I can buy that has a similar sprayer?
dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
I would recommend a lotion pump.
dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
You will receive the pump in a couple of days. I apologize for the overlook.
jcam222
Board Supporter
If you added the pack of yohimbe and caffeine I believe the recommended amount of RK is 2 gms.
I mixed mine last night and it definately takes a lot of shaking and work to dissolve. I followed Dsades advice and put in about 1/4 of the actives at a time. I also found that giving it a hot water bath helped tremendously.
dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
let me email cs directly and find out why there were no actives. no black baggie at all?
dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
Whew...you got it. Thanks for finding that, so I didn't have to hide anymore bodies.
I am running out places.
dsade
NutraPlanet Fanatic
My pleasure...and be sure to rep NutraplanetCS for his quick response.
Great job, Darren.
rippedforce63
Registered User
Didn't see anyone post it but I believe once you hit the 12-15% range you should see results any higher and it won't be as visible.
Wedgylx
Board Supporter
sounds good thanks. I'm down around 10-12 I'll likely give it a shot
Outside Backer
Well-known member
please guys post ur feedback somewhere.
like ive said ive spent many $$$ on topical stuff that didnt do crap.
but if someone see's results id be willing to maybe try again
like ive said ive spent many $$$ on topical stuff that didnt do crap.
but if someone see's results id be willing to maybe try again