:rofl: lol thats great :toofunny:Those guns are beefy, when your this big they call you mister...... MR. poopypants.
1) Which one you ran and at what dose and other hormones if any.
2) What your usage of it was. IE Bulking or cutting.
3) What diet your diet was like and how it went.
4) What gains in size or strength of weight loss you experienced.
5) Any other overall notes you would like to share.
great log pooper!! and absolutely awesome gains!! as far as your p.c.t. goes, why did you throw powerfull in there if you were running massfx and hdx2? just trying to optimize gains? i don't want to sound like i'm criticizing your stack at all i was just wondering why so much. but hey, if you have it you might as well use it to keep those gains right!!
i really like this thread "?" set up so i copied that post to here for a good summation post......
1) Epistane from IBE, 20/30/40/40
2)def bulking, although clean
3)Very high protien, VERY CLEAN, 40/40/20 macro split and managed to eat it all thanks to increased appitite
4) gained and still have retained 1 week into post cycle therapy 13.5lbs LBM, like I said CLEEEEEAAAANNN BULK
Also put on
@ least 35lbs to all chest and back lifts
@ least 25lbs to machined legs
@ least 60lbs to squat (non existent before)
And most improved was 105lbs added onto machined fly
5) wonderfully great supp with least amount of sides ive ever exp….. NOT TO MENTION A 75% REDUCTION IN MY GYNO!!!!!
gyno progression
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yeah i know what you mean. i was just curious. i was able to keep everything and then some from my 2 superdrol cycles i have run with very well planned post cycles. on a different note, i just checked the ch. 1 results thread and am pretty confused. i just received my two bottles of havoc for my upcoming cycle and don't know what to do with it. return and get the legit epi? what are your thoughts?
Very nice progression Poopy!
Your log is really an inspiration for many and one that a great deal of people will learn and benefit from....My hats off to ya! :thumbsup:
Workin
thanks workin that means alot. i def hope peeps see this and can gain some knowledge from my exp. i like sharin a good thing i know bout, and epi is def one of those good things! as well as were many of the other supps used in this cycle hint, hint, Poseidon :thumbsup:
im scurred of needles..... lol but na just havnt known of a reliable source AND dunno if i could handle stickin myself ED.... thats why im choosin m-trn, cant say i know how it compares but seriously HUGE strength on that supp.... KILLED superdrol and PP together even..... but didnt put on hardly no weight.
:think: really. i`ve heard of m trn but i didnt know it worked that good. did you run a log on it? i might have to try some. i was thinking about a epi/3ad cycle aswell.
:think: really. i`ve heard of m trn but i didnt know it worked that good. did you run a log on it? i might have to try some. i was thinking about a epi/3ad cycle aswell.
ya i figure with 3 AD bein a HUGE (supposed) mass supp and m-trn bein a HUGE strength supp and Epi bein like superdrol is good in both feilds theyd be geat to run all together.... id start with 3-AD and m-trn since the trn kicks in fast then finish it with the high dose Epi to continue keepin strength and start blockin out est before i even start post cycle therapy..... wonderfull supp this epi.
yeah i loved epi. took a little bit to kick in tho. so is there any word on a e.t.a for 3ad?
im scurred of needles..... lol but na just havnt known of a reliable source AND dunno if i could handle stickin myself ED.... thats why im choosin m-trn, cant say i know how it compares but seriously HUGE strength on that supp.... KILLED superdrol and PP together even..... but didnt put on hardly no weight.
Finaplix has an oral bioavailability that rivals transdermal availability. A cycle will cost you about twice as much (compared to what you'd use for injecting) but also avoids the hidden costs of needles, conversion supplies, vials, and the risk of injecting a poorly made batch into your butt.
On another note: is that an ultrasound on your avi? What are we lookin' at?
poop, i posted this in another thread but i was wondering your thoughts and if you have any advice on this cycle. i already mentioned this but i want to run a havoc/m-trn/m-zol cycle. i think i'm going to run the zol weeks 1-6 and trn 1-3 then havoc 3-6 overlapping one week. the thing is, i haven't run havoc as a standalone yet. since you have experience with both trn and epi, should i just do the havoc or jump right into this proposed cycle? from what i've gathered, it looks like this could be a great cycle for strength, some cutting, and some lbm.
poopypants said:ive heard that for some reason theres a possibilty that when stacking Epi and Zol that the Zol may negate some of epis effect due to the way they both work, i was wondering if you knew about this and if you might explain to me what causes this negating reaction?
as well as the fact could this effect be avoided if the doses of the 2 compounds were staggered?
thanks D
Dr.D said:I don't know about negated, you just won't achieve maximum synergy. The whole point is to increase creatine synthesis (most orals) and protein synthesis (most non-methyls). Plus, stacks are usually influenced by one compound balancing androgenic sides with a lighter androgen that's more anabolic, so Epi will stack best with stuff like low dose test, 4ad, higher dose dec, etc.. it will stack OK with dbol, PP, high dose test, and zol. While zol is not a methyl, it is similar in it's attributes so max combination efficiency is not achieved, if that makes sense. It could actually negate in that zol is so much weaker in a relative sense and SHBG, enzyme and receptor affinities as well as metabolite kinetics get involved and that's kinda complicated. I think test is a good partner for Epi.
Looking great poopy! I will be starting my post cycle therapy shortly. Was hoping to use Torem and Tamox but since the place I usually purchase still doesnt have it in I might have to use what is on hand. Glad the MassFx and Hdx2 are going well as I will be using the same set up as you. I am also 5'10 and now just below 180lbs, 13 years your elder and a little more BF% to show for it. I will probably end at about 185lbs at the end of cycle. Just wanting to let you know that I appreciate all the detail of your log as I am walking practically right in your footsteps.
damn! i was hoping for the whole schabang in one cycle!! i would rather cut up a bit for the summer. so are you saying the zol and trn are ok to hit up in one cycle or seperate those as well? i have enough superdrol for a two week "add-on" to the trn / zol cycle at 10/20 or 10/10/10. if i run the zol and trn the first three weeks then throw that in at the end i think i might be able to add some mass while keeping the toxicity minimal. i'll just save the havoc for 3ad ...
2 weeks wouldnt be enough to get anything other then more liver damage and shutdown from superdrol, if your to run it its best if it was the 3 weeks @ 10mg, both gains wise and health wise. at the most id go
trn weeks 1234
prostan weeks 3456
super weeks 456
prostan would be better matched up with the superdrol's higher anabolic profile as its nearly a pure androgen.
i may be incorrect in my thinking here so if anyone else sees any conflictions here OTHER then this is a 6 week oral cycle using more then 2 compounds let me know.
man poop this is a really good thread
your giving me hope to finally get rid of this gyno, mine look just like yours in the before picture and i've tried everything, (nolva,rebound,6oxo,letro)
im currently running a cycle of sus. 250 and using nolva while on but still get burning every once in awhile, could this be more gyno development and i just got my hands on bad nolva??
thanks man, im gonna havta run your cycle with epi sometime..:hammer:
man.. I tried to read that 8 page 3-AD thread... yeah... definitely dont have time for that one right now. Stellar Avy there though!!! I'd rep ya if it would let me!!!
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hey poopy good to hear from you again
thanks man, n no i doubt its your nolva, more likely the sust 250 bro i cant belive your taking that, its the one with all the methyls together right???
post the label ingredients.
and how much nolva you taking and when are you dosing it?
i knew that.... lol, just been blinded by the onslaught of nasty new wanna-methyls that have come out and there was one that was a stack of one that was PP, SD, HD and dhb stacked or somethin...... frickin liver hurt city.... anywho it was colled sust something or other 250 and i figured you meant that.... glad to hear you got the original real stuff....whew.Sustanon 250 is an oil-based injectable containing four different testosterone compounds: testosterone propionate, 30 mg; testosterone phenylpropionate, 60 mg; testosterone isocaproate, 60mg; and testosterone decanoate, 100 mg
and im taking nolva ed at 20mg per day
and one shot sust per week, which i know many people on here like to say thats not enough but i have met some big body builders that had good success on that much, plus its my first cycle...
u think maybe i should get something on one of the sites on here like atd or something while i run this since the nolva may not be working to its full potential?
thanks poop....
supa poops, i think i'm going to go ahead and run that six weeker you proposed up top. i was wondering if trn shut you down pretty hard or not. i know the two s d cycles i ran didnt really shut me down too bad. the last few days on them though i just felt as if it were time to get back to normal, but most of it was psychological i think because of the constant "shi1t" feeling i had. what do you think a p ct would look like? serm, cortisol blocker, maybe hdx2 massfx, and a test booster with cycle support and some poseidon is what i was thinking. any other thoughts or suggestions? or if you just think this is a completely terrible idea and think i should run a six week havoc then let me know. i have a lot of time and supps right now so i want to take advantage of the opportunity. but like i said i want to lean out and ultimately get my 8 pack kickin for summa time while retaining or even adding some lbs!! basically what every guy wants