KLEEN LIVING - A log about Life, Training, and Nutrition.

It was worth checking though.

So I hit just under 12000 steps again, and ended my fast at 49 hours with 2 8 ounce 93/7 burgers, with small buns. Putting me in the 130p, 50c, and 50f = 1200-1300 calorie range for the day.

I am going to knock out some Leg Press, and possibly hex bar or stiff leg dead lifts today, then will decide if I want to just do several sets of these rather than adding a bunch of other movements in. Sometimes I just prefer to stick with a movement and push volume there.
Sounds like all good stuff!!

Getting hard to find any burger around here leaner than 80/20. Also prices have just gone nuts. Been extending my ground beef by mixing 50/50 with ground chicken. I ended up getting a meat grinder so when I find deals on chicken breast’s I stock up and then I can grind them, I can’t do diced chicken breasts for meal prep any more, but ground chicken no problem.
 
Sounds like all good stuff!!

Getting hard to find any burger around here leaner than 80/20. Also prices have just gone nuts. Been extending my ground beef by mixing 50/50 with ground chicken. I ended up getting a meat grinder so when I find deals on chicken breast’s I stock up and then I can grind them, I can’t do diced chicken breasts for meal prep any more, but ground chicken no problem.
Beef has gone crazy; I don’t buy it any fresh beef at all for myself on the Anabolic Diet - been all pork chops, breakfast sausages, eggs, chicken wings, rotisserie chickens, sardines, kielbasa, protein powder.

I get 3lbs of 93/7 for the wife weekly, as she does a burger daily, but that’s $20 at Sam’s. I can get 7lbs of chops for that! Or 4 chickens.
 
Sounds like all good stuff!!

Getting hard to find any burger around here leaner than 80/20. Also prices have just gone nuts. Been extending my ground beef by mixing 50/50 with ground chicken. I ended up getting a meat grinder so when I find deals on chicken breast’s I stock up and then I can grind them, I can’t do diced chicken breasts for meal prep any more, but ground chicken no problem.
Well, I don't know about price, but there's a new store that opened up near us - all wild game type meats, boar, bison, ostrich, duck, and even kangaroo! Wife just picked up some bison burgers for us to give a shot.
 
we need an AM co-op to raise some meats if we could figure out a cost effective way to ship. I've been blown away by the costs of buying a steer etc to raise on your own land. We have a troublesome deer that has found a way into our yard and has been going nuts on our garden (thankfully, post garden season, but she's eating our shrubs too) so I need to man up and start practicing with my bow I think.

Well, I don't know about price, but there's a new store that opened up near us - all wild game type meats, boar, bison, ostrich, duck, and even kangaroo! Wife just picked up some bison burgers for us to give a shot.
Bison is really good, venison burgers are a favorite for my boy and I. pre-inflation they were about $9.99/lb so it was a treat we'd get when we do our boys trip but lately it seems like its the one meat that hasn't gone up in price. if your local store has it, I still think elk steaks are my favorite!!
 
Okay I'm to page 6 and you recently saw Breaking Benjamin and Staind! Bro! Thai hat to be a helluva show! Aaron Lewis actually just performed here last month and I freaking missed it!

I also got my thread started

Hope to see you there! All are welcome!
 
thats still solid output on the steps. I stopped wearing my watch because I was getting shooting pains down my wrist that I couldn't explain. the conspiracy theorist in me didn't feel healthy having that watch strapped to my wrist all day. pain went away when I stopped wearing it and I wasn't wearing it tight so I don't know what else to blame it on...
I’ve always had a weird feeling about that stuff. I don’t wanna be a cyborg damnit! Need to peel that aura off the wife….
 
We do a lot more ground turkey than beef, and most of my protein comes from chicken breasts. I just had a hankering for some beef. I should have just gone fattier to enjoy them more. When it comes to the 93/7 honestly I think I prefer the ground turkey for most things now. Chili, Burgers, spaghetti, all of that I now kind of prefer turkey. The beef just gets a tougher drier consistency, and is less of a good chew if that makes any sense.

@Hyde I must have missed you mentioning the Anabolic Diet, that is a good one for cutting/recomp. I have not done it in a long time, but it was an effective diet plan. I did have some gut issues with it before, but I think that was more poor choices during the anabolic window. More fruit, juices and honey would have made it a lot easier on the gut than how I approached it back in the day. Plus let's be honest, I was younger and more egotistical, so I wanted to report the massive amount of carbs eating in my log when I could have easily cut a couple hundred grams from each day and gotten great results.
 
We do a lot more ground turkey than beef, and most of my protein comes from chicken breasts. I just had a hankering for some beef. I should have just gone fattier to enjoy them more. When it comes to the 93/7 honestly I think I prefer the ground turkey for most things now. Chili, Burgers, spaghetti, all of that I now kind of prefer turkey. The beef just gets a tougher drier consistency, and is less of a good chew if that makes any sense.

@Hyde I must have missed you mentioning the Anabolic Diet, that is a good one for cutting/recomp. I have not done it in a long time, but it was an effective diet plan. I did have some gut issues with it before, but I think that was more poor choices during the anabolic window. More fruit, juices and honey would have made it a lot easier on the gut than how I approached it back in the day. Plus let's be honest, I was younger and more egotistical, so I wanted to report the massive amount of carbs eating in my log when I could have easily cut a couple hundred grams from each day and gotten great results.
It’s been a good plan for structure and overall I function pretty well on it. But on the weekends, when I begin eating carbs I intentionally eat anything I want. I do not keep it low fat or low glycemic index or restrict calories or food choices in any way - in fact I go out of my way to eat cookies, doughnuts, pastries. Almost all of my carbs are basically cheat foods. What I’ve found is that I naturally regulate the amount I overeat, and even have to push myself sometimes to get extra in. Knowing I can eat anything, an entire pack of Oreos, I might eat 2-3. Or have a few pieces of candy, or a soda etc. But I can only eat so much crap in 36-48 hours; you can only want so much of any one type of thing, and I am not trained to eat a high volume of food right now.

So it’s simple. In fact, I’m probably about to stop it, because I’d like to gain some weight this winter, and it’s better for controlling it or losing.
 
I’ve always had a weird feeling about that stuff. I don’t wanna be a cyborg damnit! Need to peel that aura off the wife….
I know... I get pulled back into it from time to time for the measurable metrics but I refuse to wear one for sleep etc cause I just don't want a lot of that info in my head. the step counters when I have used them just give me goals etc to chase which is always nice.

We do a lot more ground turkey than beef, and most of my protein comes from chicken breasts. I just had a hankering for some beef. I should have just gone fattier to enjoy them more. When it comes to the 93/7 honestly I think I prefer the ground turkey for most things now. Chili, Burgers, spaghetti, all of that I now kind of prefer turkey. The beef just gets a tougher drier consistency, and is less of a good chew if that makes any sense.

our meal prep is always the same pretty much. ground turkey and chicken. the extra nutrients from beef, fish, pork, etc come from dinners though.
 
I know... I get pulled back into it from time to time for the measurable metrics but I refuse to wear one for sleep etc cause I just don't want a lot of that info in my head. the step counters when I have used them just give me goals etc to chase which is always nice.



our meal prep is always the same pretty much. ground turkey and chicken. the extra nutrients from beef, fish, pork, etc come from dinners though.

I’ve farmed out my meal prep entirely and just have a company send me cooked meals each week.
 
I’ve farmed out my meal prep entirely and just have a company send me cooked meals each week.
my brother and his wife did that for a while, I just couldn't get onboard with it. I know pre-inflation I had figured my wife and I eat for less than like $3/day not including dinner (not sure what it is now) and I think my brother was paying like $10-15/meal back then, I just couldn't justify it to myself although I see the benefits for sure.
 
my brother and his wife did that for a while, I just couldn't get onboard with it. I know pre-inflation I had figured my wife and I eat for less than like $3/day not including dinner (not sure what it is now) and I think my brother was paying like $10-15/meal back then, I just couldn't justify it to myself although I see the benefits for sure.

In NYC, I’m not even convinced I could cook chicken and rice for cheaper than the $10/meal these folks charge lol
 
Bison is really good. Venison burgers are a favorite for my boy and I. pre-inflation they were about $9.99/lb so it was a treat we'd get when we do our boys trip but lately it seems like its the one meat that hasn't gone up in price. if your local store has it, I still think elk steaks are my favorite!!

Elk? I will look next time I'm in there. Any cooking tips for these type of game meats?

It’s been a good plan for structure and overall I function pretty well on it. But on the weekends, when I begin eating carbs I intentionally eat anything I want. I do not keep it low fat or low glycemic index or restrict calories or food choices in any way - in fact I go out of my way to eat cookies, doughnuts, pastries. Almost all of my carbs are basically cheat foods. What I’ve found is that I naturally regulate the amount I overeat, and even have to push myself sometimes to get extra in. Knowing I can eat anything, an entire pack of Oreos, I might eat 2-3. Or have a few pieces of candy, or a soda etc. But I can only eat so much crap in 36-48 hours; you can only want so much of any one type of thing, and I am not trained to eat a high volume of food right now.

So it’s simple. In fact, I’m probably about to stop it, because I’d like to gain some weight this winter, and it’s better for controlling it or losing.

Wait wait wait, what is this eat junk food and lose weight diet?? I think this is the one I need to get on.

I’ve farmed out my meal prep entirely and just have a company send me cooked meals each week.

What company? I've been interested in trying one, mostly for lunches as I'm always scrounging for left overs in my house.
 
In NYC, I’m not even convinced I could cook chicken and rice for cheaper than the $10/meal these folks charge lol
your new mayor is going to put in those cheaper grocery stores though right?

Elk? I will look next time I'm in there. Any cooking tips for these type of game meats?
honestly my opinion is that its best to start as basic as possible when trying a new game meat and then get fancier after you decide how you like the flavor since deer, elk, bison, and beef all taste very different IMO.

my former father in law used to cook it up with salt, pepper, and some rosemary. get a good sear and go rare for me, medium or medium rare for everyone else. Personally I prefer my steaks to have a really great sear on the outside and a rare finish in the middle. its one of the reasons we got rid of the traeger, I'm getting way better sears again on our newer less expensive grill.
 
Wait wait wait, what is this eat junk food and lose weight diet?? I think this is the one I need to get on.
No sorry, to be clear this is just the diet I’m currently following to run the machine - I am not a “diet” in the sense of a cut. I am maintaining my bodyweight at the moment, but overall feel like composition has improved some and my body & brain generally feel good most of the time on this plan.

If I wanted to cut, I would definitely not be hitting the cheat stuff so hard on the weekend! And I’d trim a bit of the fats down during the week as well.
 
If I wanted to cut, I would definitely not be hitting the cheat stuff so hard on the weekend! And I’d trim a bit of the fats down during the week as well.
IDK about all that, I've been hitting the cheat stuff and I'm cutting.

<checks scale>

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<checks log>
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wait, there may be a problem with my approach. Thank God for fasting 😂
 
[QUOTE="Segansational”]Elk? I will look next time I'm in there. Any cooking tips for these type of game meats?



Wait wait wait, what is this eat junk food and lose weight diet?? I think this is the one I need to get on.



What company? I've been interested in trying one, mostly for lunches as I'm always scrounging for left overs in my house.[/QUOTE]

Company I use is local, so probably not useful for you unless you’re in NYC or northern NJ.
 
man it so is. I'd rather skip a day than starve for a week lol
And then you’ve got the benefits of autophagy on top of it. A 24 hour fast does wonders for the body
 
bingo- I typically run 36-44hr
Damn that's discipline! Haven't gone that long but after this cycle and bloods normalize I may implement a 48 hour fast for a complete cellular defrag. How often do you fast to that extent?
 
Damn that's discipline! Haven't gone that long but after this cycle and bloods normalize I may implement a 48 hour fast for a complete cellular defrag. How often do you fast to that extent?
when I'm on my A game I do it on Mondays. lately I've been consistent on that again. it was Hyde and Kleen who got me into fasting a couple years ago and Kleen turned me on to Hubberman with his fasting podcasts. I'll eat dinner with the wife on Sunday (train both sat and sunday usually) then fast until either lunch or dinner on Tuesday and either not train on monday, or do cardio only.

I personally notice very little to zero benefit from shorter 16:8 or 20:8 type fasting protocol cause I just end up getting all my calories in that short window anyways I think. the longer 30hr+ fasts have always been really good to me.

back in I think 2023 Kleen introduced me to ADF and I think I lost 10lbs while setting PRs on both bench and deads in one month. I'd have to check my log but I think it was may 2023.
 
when I'm on my A game I do it on Mondays. lately I've been consistent on that again. it was Hyde and Kleen who got me into fasting a couple years ago and Kleen turned me on to Hubberman with his fasting podcasts. I'll eat dinner with the wife on Sunday (train both sat and sunday usually) then fast until either lunch or dinner on Tuesday and either not train on monday, or do cardio only.

I personally notice very little to zero benefit from shorter 16:8 or 20:8 type fasting protocol cause I just end up getting all my calories in that short window anyways I think. the longer 30hr+ fasts have always been really good to me.

back in I think 2023 Kleen introduced me to ADF and I think I lost 10lbs while setting PRs on both bench and deads in one month. I'd have to check my log but I think it was may 2023.
Nice! I've watched a lot of Huberman's videos over the years. I used to have to drive an hour to work every day so it made for good listening. That's actually how I came across Andy Galpin. I used a 15:9 IF window over the last 6 months and trained fasted. The calories I ate within my window hit about 500 below maintenance. I also supplemented yohimbine, forskolin, and synephrine. Lost a steady 15 pounds and am really happy with the results! This is the leanest I've been in a loooong time!
 
It’s been a good plan for structure and overall I function pretty well on it. But on the weekends, when I begin eating carbs I intentionally eat anything I want. I do not keep it low fat or low glycemic index or restrict calories or food choices in any way - in fact I go out of my way to eat cookies, doughnuts, pastries. Almost all of my carbs are basically cheat foods. What I’ve found is that I naturally regulate the amount I overeat, and even have to push myself sometimes to get extra in. Knowing I can eat anything, an entire pack of Oreos, I might eat 2-3. Or have a few pieces of candy, or a soda etc. But I can only eat so much crap in 36-48 hours; you can only want so much of any one type of thing, and I am not trained to eat a high volume of food right now.

So it’s simple. In fact, I’m probably about to stop it, because I’d like to gain some weight this winter, and it’s better for controlling it or losing.
I tend to have a sweet tooth, so I can get carried away on sweets. So I have to be careful with them. I wish I was a naturally self regulated with sweets and cookies, but that truly is my big weakness.
I’ve farmed out my meal prep entirely and just have a company send me cooked meals each week.
Good to see you Jim! Yeah with your schedule I do not blame you. I would say it is likely a nessecity if you want to be able to do other things besides work and meal prep.
In NYC, I’m not even convinced I could cook chicken and rice for cheaper than the $10/meal these folks charge lol
Yeah, that is a damn good price.
Elk? I will look next time I'm in there. Any cooking tips for these type of game meats?



Wait wait wait, what is this eat junk food and lose weight diet?? I think this is the one I need to get on.



What company? I've been interested in trying one, mostly for lunches as I'm always scrounging for left overs in my house.
If you have a hard time with stopping or binging sweets it is probably not going to be a great plan with all the free cheats on the weekend. When not keeping the fats low it is easy to eat through your deficit if not being intentional. It is literally called the Anabolic diet though. They key is keto, and massive deficit on the weekdays. Then for you it would probably end up eating about 1800g of carbs, low fat, and low protein starting Friday night after a workout - Sunday with Sunday being more of a tapering off day where you have about half the carbs of the previous days. There is more to it. You can read it here if you want to have a look. https://www.muscleandstrength.com/expert-guides/anabolic-diet

Nice! I've watched a lot of Huberman's videos over the years. I used to have to drive an hour to work every day so it made for good listening. That's actually how I came across Andy Galpin. I used a 15:9 IF window over the last 6 months and trained fasted. The calories I ate within my window hit about 500 below maintenance. I also supplemented yohimbine, forskolin, and synephrine. Lost a steady 15 pounds and am really happy with the results! This is the leanest I've been in a loooong time!
That is great progress! I did really well with the 16:8 as well when I tracked macros. I tend to just slide into eating around 11-1PM and I start work at 6:30 so I get a decent fast every morning even when not tracking everything. I am just loosely tracking at this point. I measure my meals to right around a certain weight, if over or under 5-10 grams I don't worry about it. My base meals cover the minimums, and I have a good idea of where I am at. It is just the occasional F-it moments where I give into a craving for a burger, or some pizza now which is about once a week.

I am down from about 210, give or take a lb or two, I dieted for a solid week before weighing myself at 208.4, and now down to 203-204 in the last few weeks.

Training has sucked for me this week, I had a flare up in the neck that had the referall pain lighting me up. I did something to burn energy every single day, but Monday's session was cut off after the first exercise. So I just took a second walk. Tuesday I did the elliptical and it made things worse, got that nerve pain every time I inhaled for the next 24 hours. So no training after that other than a lot of long walks. Thank goodness it was not as excruciating as it has been before, but it was far from pleasant. I may have to stop using the handles on the elliptical for a while to avoid that.

In looking back at some things, I think I went wrong with the Barbell RDL last weekend. I seem to recall this is a repeat offender of flare ups. It really sucks because of love these and think they are so effective. Hopefully I can still do them with DB's I don't think I typically have issues from the DB's. Either way I think that started the flare up and the incline bench Monday pushed it over the edge, then the regular protraction of the scaps on the elliptical was the icing on the cake. I am telling myself this is a learning time, rather than a hopeless injury time. I have to learn the triggers, and ways around them. I can not allow myself to fall apart out of frustration here. Bottom line, if I can no longer do RDL's I will have to hinge via hip thrusts or some other way. If I can't use the handles on the elliptical then I can't do that. There are other ways to skin a cat, and the goal is just having a skinless cat in the end, not how I have to skin it.

Yesterday was good, I ventured to the Fitness Connection, I figured maybe I needed more well made machines in my life. So I was not stabilizing as much while straining to see if that helps keep me out of pain. The session went well, and so far this morning not too much worse for the wear.

I did 3-4 sets of everything listed below, hitting around 2RIR.

Super Set x4
Assisted Pull ups, Assisted Dips

Seated Rows x4

Super Set x4
Lateral Raises, Preacher Curls

DB Curls x3

Diamond Push Ups x3

Today I am going in for some lower body work. Following the 3-4 sets @2RIR.

Wish me luck!!!
 
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I tend to have a sweet tooth, so I can get carried away on sweets. So I have to be careful with them. I wish I was a naturally self regulated with sweets and cookies, but that truly is my big weakness.

Good to see you Jim! Yeah with your schedule I do not blame you. I would say it is likely a nessecity if you want to be able to do other things besides work and meal prep.

Yeah, that is a damn good price.

If you have a hard time with stopping or binging sweets it is probably not going to be a great plan with all the free cheats on the weekend. When not keeping the fats low it is easy to eat through your deficit if not being intentional. It is literally called the Anabolic diet though. They key is keto, and massive deficit on the weekdays. Then for you it would probably end up eating about 1800g of carbs, low fat, and low protein starting Friday night after a workout - Sunday with Sunday being more of a tapering off day where you have about half the carbs of the previous days. There is more to it. You can read it here if you want to have a look. https://www.muscleandstrength.com/expert-guides/anabolic-diet


That is great progress! I did really well with the 16:8 as well when I tracked macros. I tend to just slide into eating around 11-1PM and I start work at 6:30 so I get a decent fast every morning even when not tracking everything. I am just loosely tracking at this point. I measure my meals to right around a certain weight, if over or under 5-10 grams I don't worry about it. My base meals cover the minimums, and I have a good idea of where I am at. It is just the occasional F-it moments where I give into a craving for a burger, or some pizza now which is about once a week.

I am down from about 210, give or take a lb or two, I dieted for a solid week before weighing myself at 208.4, and now down to 203-204 in the last few weeks.

Training has sucked for me this week, I had a flare up in the neck that had the referall pain lighting me up. I did something every single day, but Monday's session was cut off after the first exercise. So I just took a second walk. Tuesday I did the elliptical and it made things worse, got that nerve pain every time I inhaled for the next 24 hours. Thank goodness it was not as excruciating as it has been before, but it was far from pleasant. I may have to stop using the handles on the elliptical for a while to avoid that.

In looking back at some things, I think I went wrong with the Barbell RDL last weekend. I seem to recall this is a repeat offender of flair ups. It really sucks because of love these and think they are so effective. Hopefully I can still do them with DB's I don't think I typically have issues from the DB's. Either way I think that started the flare up and the incline bench Monday pushed it over the edge, then the regular protraction of the scaps on the elliptical was the icing on the cake. So I am telling myself this is a learning time, rather than a hopeless injury time. I can not allow myself to fall apart out of frustration here. Bottom line, if I can no longer do RDL's I will have to hinge via hip thrusts or some other way. If I can't use the handles on the elliptical then I can't do that. There are other ways to skin a cat, and the goal is just having a skinless cat in the end, not how I have to skin it.

Yesterday was good, I ventured to the Fitness Connection, I figured maybe I needed more well made machines in my life. So I was not stabilizing as much while straining to see if that helps keep me out of pain. The session went well, and so far this morning not too much worse for the wear.

I did 3-4 sets of everything listed below, hitting around 2RIR.

Super Set
Assisted Pull ups, Assisted Dips

Seated Rows

Super Set
Lateral Raises, Preacher Curls

DB Curls

Diamond Push Ups

Today I am going in for some lower body work. Following the 3-4 sets @2RIR.

Wish me luck!!!
Good luck man! Hopefully you can mitigate the flare ups!
 
I tend to have a sweet tooth, so I can get carried away on sweets. So I have to be careful with them. I wish I was a naturally self regulated with sweets and cookies, but that truly is my big weakness.

Good to see you Jim! Yeah with your schedule I do not blame you. I would say it is likely a nessecity if you want to be able to do other things besides work and meal prep.

Yeah, that is a damn good price.

If you have a hard time with stopping or binging sweets it is probably not going to be a great plan with all the free cheats on the weekend. When not keeping the fats low it is easy to eat through your deficit if not being intentional. It is literally called the Anabolic diet though. They key is keto, and massive deficit on the weekdays. Then for you it would probably end up eating about 1800g of carbs, low fat, and low protein starting Friday night after a workout - Sunday with Sunday being more of a tapering off day where you have about half the carbs of the previous days. There is more to it. You can read it here if you want to have a look. https://www.muscleandstrength.com/expert-guides/anabolic-diet


That is great progress! I did really well with the 16:8 as well when I tracked macros. I tend to just slide into eating around 11-1PM and I start work at 6:30 so I get a decent fast every morning even when not tracking everything. I am just loosely tracking at this point. I measure my meals to right around a certain weight, if over or under 5-10 grams I don't worry about it. My base meals cover the minimums, and I have a good idea of where I am at. It is just the occasional F-it moments where I give into a craving for a burger, or some pizza now which is about once a week.

I am down from about 210, give or take a lb or two, I dieted for a solid week before weighing myself at 208.4, and now down to 203-204 in the last few weeks.

Training has sucked for me this week, I had a flare up in the neck that had the referall pain lighting me up. I did something to burn energy every single day, but Monday's session was cut off after the first exercise. So I just took a second walk. Tuesday I did the elliptical and it made things worse, got that nerve pain every time I inhaled for the next 24 hours. So no training after that other than a lot of long walks. Thank goodness it was not as excruciating as it has been before, but it was far from pleasant. I may have to stop using the handles on the elliptical for a while to avoid that.

In looking back at some things, I think I went wrong with the Barbell RDL last weekend. I seem to recall this is a repeat offender of flare ups. It really sucks because of love these and think they are so effective. Hopefully I can still do them with DB's I don't think I typically have issues from the DB's. Either way I think that started the flare up and the incline bench Monday pushed it over the edge, then the regular protraction of the scaps on the elliptical was the icing on the cake. I am telling myself this is a learning time, rather than a hopeless injury time. I have to learn the triggers, and ways around them. I can not allow myself to fall apart out of frustration here. Bottom line, if I can no longer do RDL's I will have to hinge via hip thrusts or some other way. If I can't use the handles on the elliptical then I can't do that. There are other ways to skin a cat, and the goal is just having a skinless cat in the end, not how I have to skin it.

Yesterday was good, I ventured to the Fitness Connection, I figured maybe I needed more well made machines in my life. So I was not stabilizing as much while straining to see if that helps keep me out of pain. The session went well, and so far this morning not too much worse for the wear.

I did 3-4 sets of everything listed below, hitting around 2RIR.

Super Set x4
Assisted Pull ups, Assisted Dips

Seated Rows x4

Super Set x4
Lateral Raises, Preacher Curls

DB Curls x3

Diamond Push Ups x3

Today I am going in for some lower body work. Following the 3-4 sets @2RIR.

Wish me luck!!!
Man I feel ya on having to work around flair ups, and figuring out what triggers them. It is definitely par for the course as we get older. But like you said there are many ways to skin a cat….just as long as the cat gets skinned. The bad part with pinched nerve type pain, is is even little stuff can trigger it…like turning your head the wrong way and something pops. Hopefully you’ll be able to find a way to work around it, I’m sure you will. 😎👍
 
Man I feel ya on having to work around flair ups, and figuring out what triggers them. It is definitely par for the course as we get older. But like you said there are many ways to skin a cat….just as long as the cat gets skinned. The bad part with pinched nerve type pain, is is even little stuff can trigger it…like turning your head the wrong way and something pops. Hopefully you’ll be able to find a way to work around it, I’m sure you will. 😎👍
Yeah, that is the pain with it being a nerve issue in the neck. Plus how many other things it effects. From everything I am seeing it is likely the C6-C7 disc causing the issues. WHich makes a lot of sense considering it was my C7 spline that got twisted in that accident. My chiro then told me it would probably be good until I got older then I was going to likely have issues. I have been doing some stretches and exercises for my neck hoping to alleviate some of the issues.
 
I got a decent leg session in Saturday, I tried to keep it nice and safe while making sure it was effective.

Leg Press - 475 x 5 work sets @2RIR - 8 sets if counting warm ups.

Premier Kickback Machine x 4 sets.

Crunches.

I seem to have hit a decent training stimulus, lower back a little tight, but not too bad, and legs did not get DOMS but were definitely in recovery mode yesterday and today. Unfortunately, I had a cheat meal last night, and it really upset my stomacj for some reason. It wasn't anything crazy, just an avoacodo burger from Chilis, and a peice of Reese Peanutbutter Cup Pie. I woke up to gnarly bubble guts, and heartburn this morning, with my stomach super distended. I am sitting here at my desk today, low energy, and not feeling great. I haven't eaten yet, and kind of think I am not going to eat today. Just make it a fasting day. I don't feel like eating would go to well right now. I keep thinking of going for a walk but honestly, I think I might try to take a nap at lunch with how I am feeling.
 
I got a decent leg session in Saturday, I tried to keep it nice and safe while making sure it was effective.

Leg Press - 475 x 5 work sets @2RIR - 8 sets if counting warm ups.

Premier Kickback Machine x 4 sets.

Crunches.

I seem to have hit a decent training stimulus, lower back a little tight, but not too bad, and legs did not get DOMS but were definitely in recovery mode yesterday and today. Unfortunately, I had a cheat meal last night, and it really upset my stomacj for some reason. It wasn't anything crazy, just an avoacodo burger from Chilis, and a peice of Reese Peanutbutter Cup Pie. I woke up to gnarly bubble guts, and heartburn this morning, with my stomach super distended. I am sitting here at my desk today, low energy, and not feeling great. I haven't eaten yet, and kind of think I am not going to eat today. Just make it a fasting day. I don't feel like eating would go to well right now. I keep thinking of going for a walk but honestly, I think I might try to take a nap at lunch with how I am feeling.
Hopefully a good fast will fix it for you, at least it will give your gut a break.
 
I got a decent leg session in Saturday, I tried to keep it nice and safe while making sure it was effective.

Leg Press - 475 x 5 work sets @2RIR - 8 sets if counting warm ups.

Premier Kickback Machine x 4 sets.

Crunches.

I seem to have hit a decent training stimulus, lower back a little tight, but not too bad, and legs did not get DOMS but were definitely in recovery mode yesterday and today. Unfortunately, I had a cheat meal last night, and it really upset my stomacj for some reason. It wasn't anything crazy, just an avoacodo burger from Chilis, and a peice of Reese Peanutbutter Cup Pie. I woke up to gnarly bubble guts, and heartburn this morning, with my stomach super distended. I am sitting here at my desk today, low energy, and not feeling great. I haven't eaten yet, and kind of think I am not going to eat today. Just make it a fasting day. I don't feel like eating would go to well right now. I keep thinking of going for a walk but honestly, I think I might try to take a nap at lunch with how I am feeling.
I swear all commercial food just wrecks people nowadays, or maybe we are just getting old lol. But by eating real food all the time, any slight variance creates volatile liquid, and fast (for me anyways).
 
@MrKleen73 I'm curious about the neck pain. Does it shoot through your body anywhere or is it a sharp pain at the specific spot?
 
FWIW, Phil Heath mentioned he used primarily machines during his reign. So it's definitely possible to use / incorporate more fully to build, while minimizing injury with some of the barbell movements.
 
Hopefully a good fast will fix it for you, at least it will give your gut a break.
Yeah, my gut is feeling a bit better, still very low energy, and dragging a bit. I am going to go ahead and continue the fast at least until dinner. Possibly through tomorrow then have some BBQ for our office Thankgiving meal as a fast breaker. They always order from the one of the 3 best BBQ places in town. So it is going to be damn good. The wife is making some haystacks for me to take in. I love those things.
I swear all commercial food just wrecks people nowadays, or maybe we are just getting old lol. But by eating real food all the time, any slight variance creates volatile liquid, and fast (for me anyways).
Yeah, I am not sure what all that heartburn and distension was about, but I the fast sure is helping. I am sure part of it is age. I used to have a cast iron stomach. Not so much now.
@MrKleen73 I'm curious about the neck pain. Does it shoot through your body anywhere or is it a sharp pain at the specific spot?
Shoot through, not really, mostly just referral pain in the scap / rotator cuff, and rear delt area. Then numbness / stinging / burning that will go down the lateral side of my triceps, and down into my thumb index and middle finger. Plus a lot of tightness in neck and trap on the right side. I have to stretch it constantly throughout the day.
FWIW, Phil Heath mentioned he used primarily machines during his reign. So it's definitely possible to use / incorporate more fully to build, while minimizing injury with some of the barbell movements.
Oh absolutely, muscle knows tension, not the source of tension.

I went to bed at 7:20 last night, I feel a bit more rested but still dragging a little. I will take a walk during lunch today, and continue this fast until at least dinner tonight. Then hit up some lifting tomorrow.
 
Shoot through, not really, mostly just referral pain in the scap / rotator cuff, and rear delt area. Then numbness / stinging / burning that will go down the lateral side of my triceps, and down into my thumb index and middle finger. Plus a lot of tightness in neck and trap on the right side. I have to stretch it constantly throughout the day.
Man that's gotta suck! I get a pain against the right side of my T1 especially after driving long hours. It feels like intense tightness that when I push against it pain zings locally then eases. Then when I release the pressure, the zing emanates around the area again but even more intensely. I think it's just super tight and strained connective tissue rather than a nerve because the pain isn't shooting anywhere and there's no numbness/tingling beyond the specific location. But damn is it uncomfortable!
 
Man that's gotta suck! I get a pain against the right side of my T1 especially after driving long hours. It feels like intense tightness that when I push against it pain zings locally then eases. Then when I release the pressure, the zing emanates around the area again but even more intensely. I think it's just super tight and strained connective tissue rather than a nerve because the pain isn't shooting anywhere and there's no numbness/tingling beyond the specific location. But damn is it uncomfortable!
Yeah, that does not sound fun either.

This definitely sucks, but it could be worse, and I am slowly learning what to avoid. Of course I have to test things occassionally to see if I still have to avoid things until I know they are for sure a no go. I had to prioritize work over injuries this year just because of things going on at the job. Next year should be better, and I will try to get an MRI early in the year, and get some more direct treatments for the area.

Wednesday 11/12/25
I fasted all day yesterday as well. Having one meal last night. Then fasted until 12:30 when we had our BBQ Thanksgiving Lunch. I took my food to my desk to work while eating so I could go for a walk after. I had a little brisket and a good bit of smoked turkey breast, and a bit of dessert. I am about to go take that walk here shortly.

Thursday 11/13/25
I ended up getting in my hour of walking yesterday, but had some house stuff to deal with when I got home. So I only had one more meal of 180g chicken breast, 180g jasmine rice, salsa, and 6g olive oil. Overall calories probably a 2300-2800 calorie day. Not great, but not a huge setback. All I have had this morning was a large bowl of fruit. I will go lift here shortly, and then have a meal with some protein. I have also been looking at some study reviews where they are saying not much more growth coming from anything over .6g/lb of body weight of protein a day. So in an effort to save a little money on protein I am going to be lowering it a bit. I am going to cap things off at around 120-150g a day for a bit to see if I notice much. This should save a decent bit of cash, and allow a little more room for healthy fats while keeping carbs ample. See how things go from here.

It is funny, I feel so small right now but when I see myslef in the gym mirror, especially with a pump it is obvious to me even with all of the issues I am having and how little I have been able to effectively train. I am still big as hell, and still look bigger / more jacked than 99% of the guys in my gym.

In other news, they opened a new class sign up at the facility gym. They added 2 yoga classes a week. So I am officially signed up for both classes next week. I am also signed up from something called Cage Movement which is a group fitness deal they do around the functional section of the gym. Hoping I can take advantage of things like this to increase, and expand my fitness levels. I think the yoga should really help with stabilizers and flexibility, and some of the other stuff just energy consumption stuff. However if i can make 3-4 classes a week, and whatever actual lifting I can get in after work my fitness levels should take a bump. It will also allow for if nothing else one solid full body sessioon a week since everythign will still be getting touched with other work.
 
Be interested to hear after a while if the yoga seems to provide any relief. Sounds like keeping things moving and working around the issues so that a big win!
 
as much as I hate yoga, I think doing saturday sessions 2-4 times a month helped solve a lot of nagging issues I had circa 2010-2013 when I was running 5ks and lifting. it definitely has its place...
 
Be interested to hear after a while if the yoga seems to provide any relief. Sounds like keeping things moving and working around the issues so that a big win!
Yeah, I am hoping for some improvement. I can't imagine it not being beneficial for my current level of instability. Core, and ankle strength should definitely improve quite a bit. That will help with lower back, hip, and knee stuff. Even if it does not help with my neck issue.
as much as I hate yoga, I think doing saturday sessions 2-4 times a month helped solve a lot of nagging issues I had circa 2010-2013 when I was running 5ks and lifting. it definitely has its place...
We will see what I think of yoga, I tend to like things that make me feel my body, and focus on movement. Plus if it is challenging then that will be an added attraction for me. I know I really enjoyed pilates when I had the chance to do it for about a year. My waist was never so cinched in as when I was doing pilates, but I will say they really need to focus on stretching the hip flexors a lot more because mine got a lot tighter from all of the lower ab / leg raising stuff in pilates. I actually ended up spraining my psoas during that time while doing sprints, and it had me messed up for a good while. I would say some of my issues on that side are still left over from that.
 
We will see what I think of yoga, I tend to like things that make me feel my body, and focus on movement.
oh I for sure understand that, I just really hate class structures. I don't like anything that makes me feel like cattle. like excursions on vacation, lol. Thats the #1 reason I turned away from xfit. it went from being a competition style warehouse filled with puke, sweat and blood, to these weird classes that were coordinated to the minute.

pilates, but I will say they really need to focus on stretching the hip flexors a lot more because mine got a lot tighter from all of the lower ab / leg raising stuff in pilates. I actually ended up spraining my psoas during that time while doing sprints, and it had me messed up for a good while. I would say some of my issues on that side are still left over from that.

I think yoga will serve you well. it was specifically the hip flexors and even more so that psoas that lead me to yoga in the first place and the healing was incredible!
 
In other news, they opened a new class sign up at the facility gym. They added 2 yoga classes a week. So I am officially signed up for both classes next week. I am also signed up from something called Cage Movement which is a group fitness deal they do around the functional section of the gym. Hoping I can take advantage of things like this to increase, and expand my fitness levels. I think the yoga should really help with stabilizers and flexibility, and some of the other stuff just energy consumption stuff. However if i can make 3-4 classes a week, and whatever actual lifting I can get in after work my fitness levels should take a bump. It will also allow for if nothing else one solid full body sessioon a week since everythign will still be getting touched with other work.
I'm a big advocate for yoga. I think everyone should do it honestly, and especially those doing weight training. It's basically the counter balance to all the strain and pressure you're putting your body through. If lifting were like revving an engine, yoga is the tuning done to make it all work smoothly and efficiently. I've seen what heavy lifting does to your body if you don't take care of it. My dad is a mess and struggles just to get up and down from the floor. Actually he moves like Robocop, or the tin man lol. Watching him try to sit cross legged is comical to say the least. Granted he's 72 and still strong as an ox, but what good is strength if you can't move? Not to mention what it does for your cardiovascular and respiratory systems!

Basically what I'm saying is...I'm glad you're giving it a shot! I do yoga every morning and it has definitely helped with some back issues I'd had over the years! And my flexibility is beyond even what I had in high school. The focus I've developed with my mind /muscle connection is also worth noting. Dude, it's just benefits all around!
 
There was a brief period while I was at a commercial gym that had yoga classes I participated in as well. I really enjoyed it, particularly the relaxation part of it for me. Not a bad reminder for me to consider it again...
 
My dad is a mess and struggles just to get up and down from the floor. Actually he moves like Robocop, or the tin man lol. Watching him try to sit cross legged is comical to say the least. Granted he's 72 and still strong as an ox, but what good is strength if you can't move? Not to mention what it does for your cardiovascular and respiratory systems!
I had a tenant like 20 years ago who was I think in her 80s or about 90yrs old I can't remember. But she cut the legs off all her tables so that when she sat down to eat, she had to sit on the floor Japanese style. She said she felt it created a lot more movement in her normal life and contributed to her longevity. She got cancer and took up hiking one of the tougher hikes in our area that the 20 year olds always complain about, beat the cancer, and kept on going. for all I know she's still alive and 110 years old idk lol
 
I'm a big advocate for yoga. I think everyone should do it honestly, and especially those doing weight training. It's basically the counter balance to all the strain and pressure you're putting your body through. If lifting were like revving an engine, yoga is the tuning done to make it all work smoothly and efficiently. I've seen what heavy lifting does to your body if you don't take care of it. My dad is a mess and struggles just to get up and down from the floor. Actually he moves like Robocop, or the tin man lol. Watching him try to sit cross legged is comical to say the least. Granted he's 72 and still strong as an ox, but what good is strength if you can't move? Not to mention what it does for your cardiovascular and respiratory systems!

Basically what I'm saying is...I'm glad you're giving it a shot! I do yoga every morning and it has definitely helped with some back issues I'd had over the years! And my flexibility is beyond even what I had in high school. The focus I've developed with my mind /muscle connection is also worth noting. Dude, it's just benefits all around!
Yeah, I am actually pretty flexible, when I tell people working on me I am tight then they have me show my available ROM they are like you are very flexible. I said well that doesn't change the fact that I FEEL TIGHT for me... However, I want the control over my body I had during martial arts back in my body. I think yoga has a great chance of that.
There was a brief period while I was at a commercial gym that had yoga classes I participated in as well. I really enjoyed it, particularly the relaxation part of it for me. Not a bad reminder for me to consider it again...
Awesome, it is good to hear so many have found it enjoyable and beneficial.
I had a tenant like 20 years ago who was I think in her 80s or about 90yrs old I can't remember. But she cut the legs off all her tables so that when she sat down to eat, she had to sit on the floor Japanese style. She said she felt it created a lot more movement in her normal life and contributed to her longevity. She got cancer and took up hiking one of the tougher hikes in our area that the 20 year olds always complain about, beat the cancer, and kept on going. for all I know she's still alive and 110 years old idk lol
That is very smart most people try to limit their movement as they age more than enforce movement as a priority.

Wow Jimmy Carr breaking down Communism and why it won't work in the most digestable way I have ever heard it.

Thursday was a quick body weight push pull session.

Dynamic Warm Up 20-30 minutes of constant activity including:
hopping
jumping
lateral hops
diagonal leaps
arm circles
prone shoulder circles
cat camels
Serratus push ups
TRX Alphabets
Controlled Pelvic Rocking

4 sets to failure
Pull Ups / Push ups

Not a bad session, worked pull ups to 8 on the first set, I am no longer doing dead hangs, but am going full extension. Pushups really worked my scapular retraction a lot. Caused a bit of premature failure, but was still enough to get slight DOMS in pecs. I was reading that pushups will help me get control of my scaps again since they are not pinned into retraction by my body weight, I have to exercise more control to keep it retracted, and depressed. Judging from what I felt pushing to failure I 100% agree that is a weak spot for me and it was being worked hard. I am going to keep focusing on push ups for a bit. I need to commit to repairing things if I want to train hard enough to truly enjoy it. So I am going to just keep making adjustments to my approach and see what works.

Oh yeah, I had my first chicken shake since prep this morning. I actually kind of enjoyed it. I season it heavily with Lawry's Casero Carne Asada seasoning in hot water, and it is like turning up a bowl of a bisque type of soup. I don't recommend sniffing it, that will ruin it for you. It is afterall blended chicken so it just smells like blended chicken not something you want to drink. However if you just drink it, it tastes pretty good. Plus I always feel a lot more hydrated after due to all the sodium in the Carne Asada seasoning.

I am heading to the gym shortly for legs, shoulders, and arms. I am most likely going to do leg press, & Arsenal Hip thrust for legs, then most likely either a complex for shoulders and arms, or do shoulders, then supersetting arms.

On the diet front, I keep doing the 2 steps forward 1 step back thing. So weight really hasn't moved as much as I would like. However, I am okay with my consistency of doing things and building steps back into healthier activity until I hit the LFG status! I do feel my muscles are responding to the increased training, so some of it is muslce memory, but the scale is just not moving much. My average weight is probably 204-205 hitting highs of 208, and lows of 202 throughout the week depending on what I eat. It is not ideal but with the muscle filling out I still feel it is progress.
 
When I was doing the controlled pelvic rocking I found I had so little control over my pelvic tilt. As I tried to move in a controlled slow fashion from flexion to extension or visa versa my lower abs, lower back and glutes would literally shut down and drop straight into sway back or up to full contraction on lower abs. I had to fight to control this and continued this movement until I had pretty good control but I can tell I am going to have to work on that a good bit. No wonder I feel so unstable, and my lower back hurts often.
 
Good Morning All,

Had a good and productive weekend. Got in a decent training session touching on most of the body Saturday.

Garage Session
Warm Up - 10 minutes of various activity, mobility drills a little calisthenics -
got heart rate up then got to work.

Leg press - 315x1-2RIR x 5 sets- the way this machine works it hits quads like a sissy squat but pushes the glute / ham tie in very hard at the same time. It is like the super deep stretch for both areas at the bottom of the movement. Although it is a bit odd feeling it is also very effective.

Chin-ups - 3x5 - Last set was 0-1RIR - Lats were still a little sore from previous pull up work. Just getting biceps working and increasing pull up / chin up volume and frequency. I have been adding pull ups / chin ups in more often throughout the week. Even if just 1 hard set, or a few sets just getting close to hard so I get more in over the week.

DB Lateral Raises 15 x4 sets @0RIR - Done down into LRP

Diamond Push ups x 3 sets failure

Super Set x3 sets -Curls, and French Press @0-1RIR, and CG Incline Press to failure
Incline DB Curls - 25
Triceps Bar Incline Skull Crushers - 65
Mechanical drop set to Triceps Bar Close Grip Incline Press to failure - 65


I had a pretty crazy pump after this session. Even though chest wasn't directly attacked I had quite a chest pump from the Diamond Pushups, and the CG Incline press to failure. it is pretty wild how that leg press machine toasts my glutes and hams more than any other leg press. Somehow it applies more tension to them because as I approach lock out it is really not only a knee extension but a sort of LRP for the glutes and hams since in an odd hinge position. It really is an odd training experience to feel the quads, glutes and hamstrings all getting pushed at the same time. It leaves me feeling a little wobbly afterwards.

Outside of training, we did a lot of deep cleaning this weekend to get the house ready for mom's visit. You know the stuff reserved for spring cleaning, and familial visits. So, we got after the floorboards, hidden nooks and crannies, pulling everything out for dusting, and rearranging, stuff like that.

My lower back is not happy after this weekend, about to drop some ibuprofen so I am good to train later. If I get out of this meeting in time I am scheduled for a spin class across the street. I am hoping it loosens my lower back up a bit. I may have to be the slow guy to avoid dying, but gI am oing to give it a shot.

Food was decent this weekend, but not great. I definitely did not bring any progress on the weight loss front, but also don't think I did any real damage. Calories were pretty decent, I did have a Potbelly Sandwich for dinner Saturday night. The wife was craving one of their soup and sandwich deals. I went with a lower fat option this time instead of my usual Wreck, but it was still decently high in calories I am sure. That was post workout meal too, so at least things had a place to land. Last night though, I had myself a craving for ice cream, that simply would not go away. So the wife and I went to marble slab to treat ourselves to some cold slab ice-cream. Yes, it was worth it!!! :)

I am being real with myself right now, and where my mentality is. I am going to be treating my mothers visit like a vacation. While I am not going to intentionally ass out and eat everything in sight, I am not going to limit myself too much either. I mean, I have already requested some of my favorite meals she made, especially her homemade lasagna. So I know I will be eating some things in excess for sure. So basically my goal over the next 3 weeks is to maintain bodyfat around here. That might be losing weight a couple days then gluttony, then a fast, then gluttony, or that may be reasonable portion control while eating relatively freely. Knowing myself it will be a combination of all of those things. The main point will be to keep moving and doing some sort of training throughout. I don't want to lose the habit of going doing something at least 5 days a week. Even if sometimes that is just a long walk.

I think that I am starting to become resolved that I am probably going to be in some form of pain for the rest of my days. That it just needs to become background noise as long as it isn't debilitating. More importantly the realization I must keep pushing for something if I want to be mentally healthy. Not trying to make some progress somewhere has always proven bad for my mental health.
 
Good Morning All,

Had a good and productive weekend. Got in a decent training session touching on most of the body Saturday.

Garage Session
Warm Up - 10 minutes of various activity, mobility drills a little calisthenics -
got heart rate up then got to work.

Leg press - 315x1-2RIR x 5 sets- the way this machine works it hits quads like a sissy squat but pushes the glute / ham tie in very hard at the same time. It is like the super deep stretch for both areas at the bottom of the movement. Although it is a bit odd feeling it is also very effective.

Chin-ups - 3x5 - Last set was 0-1RIR - Lats were still a little sore from previous pull up work. Just getting biceps working and increasing pull up / chin up volume and frequency. I have been adding pull ups / chin ups in more often throughout the week. Even if just 1 hard set, or a few sets just getting close to hard so I get more in over the week.

DB Lateral Raises 15 x4 sets @0RIR - Done down into LRP

Diamond Push ups x 3 sets failure

Super Set x3 sets -Curls, and French Press @0-1RIR, and CG Incline Press to failure
Incline DB Curls - 25
Triceps Bar Incline Skull Crushers - 65
Mechanical drop set to Triceps Bar Close Grip Incline Press to failure - 65


I had a pretty crazy pump after this session. Even though chest wasn't directly attacked I had quite a chest pump from the Diamond Pushups, and the CG Incline press to failure. it is pretty wild how that leg press machine toasts my glutes and hams more than any other leg press. Somehow it applies more tension to them because as I approach lock out it is really not only a knee extension but a sort of LRP for the glutes and hams since in an odd hinge position. It really is an odd training experience to feel the quads, glutes and hamstrings all getting pushed at the same time. It leaves me feeling a little wobbly afterwards.

Outside of training, we did a lot of deep cleaning this weekend to get the house ready for mom's visit. You know the stuff reserved for spring cleaning, and familial visits. So, we got after the floorboards, hidden nooks and crannies, pulling everything out for dusting, and rearranging, stuff like that.

My lower back is not happy after this weekend, about to drop some ibuprofen so I am good to train later. If I get out of this meeting in time I am scheduled for a spin class across the street. I am hoping it loosens my lower back up a bit. I may have to be the slow guy to avoid dying, but gI am oing to give it a shot.

Food was decent this weekend, but not great. I definitely did not bring any progress on the weight loss front, but also don't think I did any real damage. Calories were pretty decent, I did have a Potbelly Sandwich for dinner Saturday night. The wife was craving one of their soup and sandwich deals. I went with a lower fat option this time instead of my usual Wreck, but it was still decently high in calories I am sure. That was post workout meal too, so at least things had a place to land. Last night though, I had myself a craving for ice cream, that simply would not go away. So the wife and I went to marble slab to treat ourselves to some cold slab ice-cream. Yes, it was worth it!!! :)

I am being real with myself right now, and where my mentality is. I am going to be treating my mothers visit like a vacation. While I am not going to intentionally ass out and eat everything in sight, I am not going to limit myself too much either. I mean, I have already requested some of my favorite meals she made, especially her homemade lasagna. So I know I will be eating some things in excess for sure. So basically my goal over the next 3 weeks is to maintain bodyfat around here. That might be losing weight a couple days then gluttony, then a fast, then gluttony, or that may be reasonable portion control while eating relatively freely. Knowing myself it will be a combination of all of those things. The main point will be to keep moving and doing some sort of training throughout. I don't want to lose the habit of going doing something at least 5 days a week. Even if sometimes that is just a long walk.

I think that I am starting to become resolved that I am probably going to be in some form of pain for the rest of my days. That it just needs to become background noise as long as it isn't debilitating. More importantly the realization I must keep pushing for something if I want to be mentally healthy. Not trying to make some progress somewhere has always proven bad for my mental health.
Yeah I can definitely understand on having to constantly deal with some kind of ache or pain. I had to come to that same realization a few years ago, that pain is just a part of aging and we have to learn to work around it. I do think the yoga will be a good thing. I don’t do yoga but I still do a lot of my Kenpo stretches and movements that have kept me flexible for someone my age. Actually I just recently hung my heavy bag back up in the garage, and cleared me an area to start punching and kicking…ha that, and riding my bike is my cardio. Oh and I do walk 7000 to 10000 steps a day at work. But I believe doing something whether yoga, martial arts, or even stretching is so important as we age. It may not help with all your aches and pains, but I’m sure it will help with many.
And hope you have a great visit with your Mom, and I would just enjoy eating freely as you said.😎👍
 
Yeah I can definitely understand on having to constantly deal with some kind of ache or pain. I had to come to that same realization a few years ago, that pain is just a part of aging and we have to learn to work around it. I do think the yoga will be a good thing. I don’t do yoga but I still do a lot of my Kenpo stretches and movements that have kept me flexible for someone my age. Actually I just recently hung my heavy bag back up in the garage, and cleared me an area to start punching and kicking…ha that, and riding my bike is my cardio. Oh and I do walk 7000 to 10000 steps a day at work. But I believe doing something whether yoga, martial arts, or even stretching is so important as we age. It may not help with all your aches and pains, but I’m sure it will help with many.
And hope you have a great visit with your Mom, and I would just enjoy eating freely as you said.😎👍
Yeah, my ortho told me I have a really high pain tolerance and if I feel pain training I need to stop or I am going to hurt myself again. However at this point, I think this is more of a stuff is going to hurt, ache and be painful, so I need to pay more attention to sharp pain, and realize that it is better for me to train and use something for pain or inflammation than to just not train at all. I tend to get into a THIS or THAT headspace where I don't want to train around an NSAID dose, due to the blunting of the hypertrophy, but lets be honest, nothing can blunt the effects of training as much as simply not training. So I am just going to change my mindset that being able to train is the most important, and if taking some sort of anti-inflammatory allows me to train more, and harder then I should use it as a tool. I am no longer looking for maximum gains, so no need to be obsessive about never using anything after a hard training session if it feels like I need it.
 
Yeah, my ortho told me I have a really high pain tolerance and if I feel pain training I need to stop or I am going to hurt myself again. However at this point, I think this is more of a stuff is going to hurt, ache and be painful, so I need to pay more attention to sharp pain, and realize that it is better for me to train and use something for pain or inflammation than to just not train at all. I tend to get into a THIS or THAT headspace where I don't want to train around an NSAID dose, due to the blunting of the hypertrophy, but lets be honest, nothing can blunt the effects of training as much as simply not training. So I am just going to change my mindset that being able to train is the most important, and if taking some sort of anti-inflammatory allows me to train more, and harder then I should use it as a tool. I am no longer looking for maximum gains, so no need to be obsessive about never using anything after a hard training session if it feels like I need it.
Yep, exactly….you’ve just got to do what you have to do to keep that train rolling and stay healthy. My Dad was super active because he had a large farm, after he retired from General Motors, but when he was 78 he got neck fusion surgery, because of some deteriorating disc, and really was never the same. And I believe the inactivity after his surgery was part of why he died a few years later. He was always active and strong as an Ox up until that surgery, and then afterwards it killed us to see him miserable from not being able to do what he used to. So I decided I’m gonna try and crush as long as I can.💪👍
 
I was reading that pushups will help me get control of my scaps again since they are not pinned into retraction by my body weight, I have to exercise more control to keep it retracted, and depressed. Judging from what I felt pushing to failure I 100% agree that is a weak spot for me and it was being worked hard. I am going to keep focusing on push ups for a bit. I need to commit to repairing things if I want to train hard enough to truly enjoy it. So I am going to just keep making adjustments to my approach and see what works.
thats been on my mind a lot the past couple years. since moving away from xfit and more into PL my strength clearly has gone up, my lean mass has gone up, but my functional fitness has plummetted. little things like pushups and pullups would cause a lot of snap crackle and pop. I also do not like jumping because I have paranoid around the achilles, I've seen so many go out, almost always on athletes over age 40. but last week slowly bringing back things like pushups, double unders, etc has my body feeling healthier again. My biggest goal I think in this regard is to find that happy medium...

However, I am okay with my consistency of doing things and building steps back into healthier activity until I hit the LFG status!

I feel like this is the ultimate "maturity in being a gymrat". when you just know that the ebbs and flows exist and you know to allow grace when things are harder because you're building a snowball and the time will come to strike while the iron is hot!

also that lasagna sounds amazing right now lol
 
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