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Excelsior pre workout

Carolina Kid said:
What is the new exp date on new batch?

I have three of 06/28 from Eva's I got a while ago and they are good IMO....
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Brown or white powder? I have quite a few 6/28s.. the first run, brown powder, and 2 separate runs of white powder.

They all hit pretty nice. Need to do more comparisons though honestly.
 
Asterixs1980 said:
Have you had any updates? Is it worth buying the new batch?
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Dont buy thermal, wait on the excelsior drop if ur gonna buy anything. Better off saving for the next og excelsior drop on ebay. $100 for ehh, or 500+ for amazing. With that price comparison its worth it lol. Make an og excelsior savings account..lol. or just cut the bs and mix excelsior and addy or a higher serotonin to dopamine stim. Dextroamphetamine with zero levo with phenibut pretty much better anyway.
 
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Hockeyman1019 said:
Dont buy thermal, wait on the excelsior drop if ur gonna buy anything. Better off saving for the next og excelsior drop on ebay. $100 for ehh, or 500+ for amazing. With that price comparison its worth it lol. Make an og excelsior savings account..lol. or just cut the bs and mix excelsior and addy or a higher serotonin to dopamine stim. Dextroamphetamine with zero levo with phenibut pretty much better anyway.
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I need to father a hyperactive kid and just take his ADHD meds :)
 
I'm old enough to remember when people hated 02/23 batch and only wanted 10/22 or 09/21.

$1000 on eBay for 02/23 opened?

How times have changed.... 😂😂😂
 
Carolina Kid said:
I'm old enough to remember when people hated 02/23 batch and only wanted 10/22 or 09/21.

$1000 on eBay for 02/23 opened?

How times have changed.... 😂😂😂
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Yeah people used to say 2/23 was different and weaker when it dropped. I couldn't really tell. I have gotten a bunk 2/23 in the past tho
 
Anyone else think Excelsior just isn't coming back at this point? At first Predator's website listed an ETA of September, then early October, and it was just recently updated to state late October...
 
SpicedCider said:
Anyone else think Excelsior just isn't coming back at this point? At first Predator's website listed an ETA of September, then early October, and it was just recently updated to state late October...
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I think it is. The delays actually give me hope because to me it would appear they are trying to get enough of the magic sauce. They could easily keep releasing the last batch if they wanted all this time. Also i got some 6/28 and it made me want to fall asleep.
 
SpicedCider said:
Anyone else think Excelsior just isn't coming back at this point? At first Predator's website listed an ETA of September, then early October, and it was just recently updated to state late October...
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Of course they are. Where there art demand so shall there be supply . They just made a bunch of thermal spark , so imperial is definitely still operating
 
Moozefighter said:
How is the latest terminal spark? Compared to hydrazine and doomaday
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Ok there are two versions of thermal spark 06/28 that are on sale at this time. From my knowledge they are the same. Lids are different one is black and other is white. My one was not euphoric at all and didn't give me energy that I expected. This batch is the same that was sold on Evas a few months back. 2/27 before this was a different product still. That one was actually a decent product as it was a thermogenic product just minus the euphoria inside it.
It is now or never for Excelsiors new batch and hopefully these delays are for good reason.
Edit compared to Hydrazine 2/27 similar. 06/28 Hydrazine is better. Doomsday hardcore is the best at the moment. Atleast you feel something extra to it.
 
I guarantee it comes back, but whether it has the goods is a different question. They’ll take a dump in a tub and mail it to you for $120 if they have to.
 
Alexsl92 said:
Ok there are two versions of thermal spark 06/28 that are on sale at this time. From my knowledge they are the same. Lids are different one is black and other is white. My one was not euphoric at all and didn't give me energy that I expected. This batch is the same that was sold on Evas a few months back. 2/27 before this was a different product still. That one was actually a decent product as it was a thermogenic product just minus the euphoria inside it.
It is now or never for Excelsiors new batch and hopefully these delays are for good reason.
Edit compared to Hydrazine 2/27 similar. 06/28 Hydrazine is better. Doomsday hardcore is the best at the moment. Atleast you feel something extra to it.
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Thanks for the answer man. Much respect.

I probably give hydrazine another go.. I dont like doomsday hardcore that much.
 
SpicedCider said:
Man, at this point I just want to take a scoop of Excelsior and feel something, anything, LOL
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Took me long enough to get over my last relationship with craze. Bro I don't think I could handle the heartbreak loosing excelsior next. Bae better come back stronger.
 
cfisher52986 said:
I thought the 6/26 tubs that came out this year sold through Eva’s were decent ? Was the general consensus that they sucked still? The smooth lids , whitish powder
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6/26s smooth lids were good. Sure not as potent as older ones but they made you feel good. Ridge lids though... nah mate!
 
Alexsl92 said:
Took me long enough to get over my last relationship with craze. Bro I don't think I could handle the heartbreak loosing excelsior next. Bae better come back stronger.
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The funny thing about Craze is that I was late to the party and didn't order my first (and only tub) of it until November 2012, which was at least several months after the "WTF is actually in this?" hype had gone viral.

It was some kind of berry flavor (maybe Berry Lemonade?), and I remember having unbelievably high hopes for it... and yet the first time I took ~1.5 scoops on an empty stomach prior to doing my cardio, I remember that I waited, and waited, and waited on it to kick on... and yet I eventually felt literally NOTHING from it. It might as well have been a stim-free PWO.

So obviously, the "special ingredient" had been removed from the formulation by the time I'd finally gotten around to ordering a tub. I really hope this isn't going to be the case with Excelsior moving forward, but I honestly don't have high hopes.
 
Alexsl92 said:
6/26s smooth lids were good. Sure not as potent as older ones but they made you feel good. Ridge lids though... nah mate!
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I agree. The 6/26 was good but no way in hell is it $400 opened good. I'd pay $150ish for a sealed one and I'm one of those guys easily separated from his money...
 
SpicedCider said:
The funny thing about Craze is that I was late to the party and didn't order my first (and only tub) of it until November 2012, which was at least several months after the "WTF is actually in this?" hype had gone viral.

It was some kind of berry flavor (maybe Berry Lemonade?), and I remember having unbelievably high hopes for it... and yet the first time I took ~1.5 scoops on an empty stomach prior to doing my cardio, I remember that I waited, and waited, and waited on it to kick on... and yet I eventually felt literally NOTHING from it. It might as well have been a stim-free PWO.

So obviously, the "special ingredient" had been removed from the formulation by the time I'd finally gotten around to ordering a tub. I really hope this isn't going to be the case with Excelsior moving forward, but I honestly don't have high hopes.
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You definitely got a counterfeit tub I believe. Driven Sports at the time was aware of this and they had a guide on how to identify fake tubs. Craze was ridiculous and even for the most stim resistant of people that stuff would hit like a wall of euphoria. Back then they hid N-alpha-depa in almost undetectable amounts hidden under the name of the orchid dendrobium. Since it was such small amounts per tub it took a very long time to find the mysterious compound. This was peak legal high days also. They were essentially looking blind as it also didn't trigger classic drug testing as it was unknown. I believe this is why craze tasted so good as the compound was so potent it didn't alter the flavour profiles.
You definitely got unlucky because even late 2012 craze was very much still in production. I had my last tub around 2014-15. Not many knew that Gaspri detonate also had the same compound in it. I had a huge supply of them that lasted me until early 2017.
That stuff was not comparable to anything else. People in the gym would often mention my cotton mouth it was that strong haha.
Excelsior when its good is a happy middle ground. Craze had absolutely brutal crashes. Sleep? Lol good luck Senor!
 
Alexsl92 said:
You definitely got a counterfeit tub I believe. Driven Sports at the time was aware of this and they had a guide on how to identify fake tubs. Craze was ridiculous and even for the most stim resistant of people that stuff would hit like a wall of euphoria. Back then they hid N-alpha-depa in almost undetectable amounts hidden under the name of the orchid dendrobium. Since it was such small amounts per tub it took a very long time to find the mysterious compound. This was peak legal high days also. They were essentially looking blind as it also didn't trigger classic drug testing as it was unknown. I believe this is why craze tasted so good as the compound was so potent it didn't alter the flavour profiles.
You definitely got unlucky because even late 2012 craze was very much still in production. I had my last tub around 2014-15. Not many knew that Gaspri detonate also had the same compound in it. I had a huge supply of them that lasted me until early 2017.
That stuff was not comparable to anything else. People in the gym would often mention my cotton mouth it was that strong haha.
Excelsior when its good is a happy middle ground. Craze had absolutely brutal crashes. Sleep? Lol good luck Senor!
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Is dendrobium still a thing? I saw Nutrex added it to one of their preworkouts lately and they highlighted it as something no longer seen anywhere. Does it have any effects? Never tried anything with it before.
 
Mcdixon23 said:
Is dendrobium still a thing? I saw Nutrex added it to one of their preworkouts lately and they highlighted it as something no longer seen anywhere. Does it have any effects? Never tried anything with it before.
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Not that I know of and it didn't really do anything but act as a decoy. Since it was exotic and it's chemical make up unknown it was disguised as the magic ingredient for the euphoria in craze. This wasted time and research for people you could say investigating the product and led them to a dead end. This was also combined with the classic proprietary blends hiding ingredient amounts etc. There were some products after craze that had Dendrobium to capture craze fans but it ofcourse didn't deliver.
 
Mcdixon23 said:
Is dendrobium still a thing? I saw Nutrex added it to one of their preworkouts lately and they highlighted it as something no longer seen anywhere. Does it have any effects? Never tried anything with it before.
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Its a cover the same way companies say “geranium extract” instead of dmaa, craze had an analog of meth not dendrobium lmao
 
Badoozy70 said:
That just sounds awful though. Was it an amphetamine like feel too? Why not just take an adderall?
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Awful? Most people want something illegal that was in stuff like excelsior and craze lol. The fact that is was in a pre-workout and didnt have to be worried of getting in trouble made it better. It was an amphetamine high
 
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Badoozy70 said:
That just sounds awful though. Was it an amphetamine like feel too? Why not just take an adderall?
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I cant speak for the feel of craze but the best workouts ive ever had were from excelsior 5/6 years ago, im also australian so adderall isnt widely available like in the us
 
curley98 said:
Its a cover the same way companies say “geranium extract” instead of dmaa, craze had an analog of meth not dendrobium lmao
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I actually received a free bottle of so-called "geranium extract" from Predator Nutrition a while back when they were doing one of their "spend $X and select a free product" promotions. Each capsule has 75 mg of what I assume is alleged to be DMAA, but I've taken 3 of them at a time and felt literally nothing except maybe slightly elevated heart rate.

The best DMAA-based product I've ever taken was Dark Energy back in 2021. It didn't give an amphetamine high, but I definitely noticed the unique energy boost during cardio that legit DMAA gives (almost like a feeling of being propelled forward during running, with uphill running feeling just as easy & effortless as running on flat terrain).

It wasn't in the same class as OG Excelsior, but I still really miss that product.
 
Hockeyman1019 said:
Awful? Most people want something illegal that was in stuff like excelsior and craze lol. The fact that is was in a pre-workout and didnt have to be worried of getting in trouble made it better. It was an amphetamine high
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That’s a dirty high though and an awful come down. Or maybe I just have bad taste in uppers hehe.

One thing I really like about today’s hydrazine and stuff like the 2/27 sparks is the mildness and lack of crash. Perfect for that temporary boost without turning into a weirdo for the rest of the day.
 
Badoozy70 said:
That’s a dirty high though and an awful come down. Or maybe I just have bad taste in uppers hehe.

One thing I really like about today’s hydrazine and stuff like the 2/27 sparks is the mildness and lack of crash. Perfect for that temporary boost without turning into a weirdo for the rest of the day.
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Exactly what I was thinking . Yea I can get adderal or meth but you can’t just take them for a workout and go back to normal an hour or two later. You’re tweaking all day and into the night . For working out , I’d rather have whatever the hell illicit stims they are putting in supplements
 
Badoozy70 said:
That’s a dirty high though and an awful come down. Or maybe I just have bad taste in uppers hehe.

One thing I really like about today’s hydrazine and stuff like the 2/27 sparks is the mildness and lack of crash. Perfect for that temporary boost without turning into a weirdo for the rest of the day.
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Lol I understand that weirdo part after. They weren't a dirty high tho..it was so perfectly smooth. But it did give weirdo crash lol
 
cfisher52986 said:
Exactly what I was thinking . Yea I can get adderal or meth but you can’t just take them for a workout and go back to normal an hour or two later. You’re tweaking all day and into the night . For working out , I’d rather have whatever the hell illicit stims they are putting in supplements
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U could get by with instant release adderall for gym and not last all day. If you liked excelsior then its no different than that stuff so u cant say youd rather.. unless u mean dmha. And Well different than meth lol but it was like an adderall
 
Hockeyman1019 said:
U could get by with instant release adderall for gym and not last all day. If you liked excelsior then its no different than that stuff so u cant say youd rather.. unless u mean dmha. And Well different than meth lol but it was like an adderall
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U are right I am talking about stuff like wild fire and the new illicit Pres with unlisted stims in them . These kind of stims are good for a workout but don’t tweak u out all day .
However I tried one called F Bomb the other day and it definitely lasted over 12 hours and I couldn’t sleep a wink . Felt more hardcore than any excelsior batch I’ve tried
 
Hockeyman1019 said:
U could get by with instant release adderall for gym and not last all day. If you liked excelsior then its no different than that stuff so u cant say youd rather.. unless u mean dmha. And Well different than meth lol but it was like an adderall
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IR adderall will still last most of the day for me
 
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