Excelsior pre workout

curley98 said:
First impression of the new batch is that it feels like a weak (recent batches) thermal spark, the powder and taste are also completely different than usual, heart rate after warming up is 100-110, wouldnt recommend to anyone looking for the feel tubs gave even a year ago. Also feels like they have added alpha yohimbine at a low dose to this batch for some reason
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This was exactly my experience. To me it felt like Alpha Yo, probably DMHA, caffeine, and minor pump ingredients. It honestly felt like a completely different pre-workout, and underwhelming in my opinion.
Also I hate Alpha Yo
 
When Eva's started advertising that you could buy Excelsior and TS online, that should've been the cue that it was all but over.

FWIW, for years prior, you could purchase Excelsior and TS from Eva's on their website. You just needed to know how.
 
Leon9999 said:
This was exactly my experience. To me it felt like Alpha Yo, probably DMHA, caffeine, and minor pump ingredients. It honestly felt like a completely different pre-workout, and underwhelming in my opinion.
Also I hate Alpha Yo
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Yep really annoying as most other pres that try and rival or replace excelsior normally also have alpha yo which I also dont like hence why I normally only got excelsior. Looks like im stuck with doomsday hardcore for now but i think the companies are one in the same anyway lmao
 
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The Last Sausage Tree in Africa

The sun stands mottled against the forest floor, marking only the spaces where it’s managed to break through the leafy canopy. The heat is oppressive. A grotesquely fat man stands, sweating through a comically small Predator Nutrition shirt. His once athletic frame swallowed by fleshy folds. At one time this man could have been mistaken for a bodybuilder. He now marks his progress in pounds sterling rather than pounds of iron.

A villager kneels over the translucent red tubs as he squeezes the shriveled sausage fruit, desperate to wring out the last drops of magic. It’s hopeless. He knows it’s hopeless. The man knows it’s hopeless. “We’ll send those tubs to Smart Mammoth, he won’t know the difference,” his voice is flat, emotionless.

The man loads the last pallet into the truck and turns to leave. “I’ll see you next year.” Around him the fields of kigelia africana, trees that once exploded with the vulgar fruit lay desiccated and dead.

Somewhere far away, across oceans and continents, muscleman stirs. He dreams of dark formless shapes, the weight of his dreams crushing him. He sits up violently, sweating through his shirt, like the man. A single tear breaks slowly across his cheek.
 
DelTrem said:
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The Last Sausage Tree in Africa

The sun stands mottled against the forest floor, marking only the spaces where it’s managed to break through the leafy canopy. The heat is oppressive. A grotesquely fat man stands, sweating through a comically small Predator Nutrition shirt. His once athletic frame swallowed by fleshy folds. At one time this man could have been mistaken for a bodybuilder. He now marks his progress in pounds sterling rather than pounds of iron.

A villager kneels over the translucent red tubs as he squeezes the shriveled sausage fruit, desperate to wring out the last drops of magic. It’s hopeless. He knows it’s hopeless. The man knows it’s hopeless. “We’ll send those tubs to Smart Mammoth, he won’t know the difference,” his voice is flat, emotionless.

The man loads the last pallet into the truck and turns to leave. “I’ll see you next year.” Around him the fields of kigelia africana, trees that once exploded with the vulgar fruit lay desiccated and dead.

Somewhere far away, across oceans and continents, muscleman stirs. He dreams of dark formless shapes, the weight of his dreams crushing him. He sits up violently, sweating through his shirt, like the man. A single tear breaks slowly across his cheek.
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Ill try the new tubs again and use my mortar and pestle maybe thats why it was no good
 
Badoozy70 said:
Don't forget the hot water.
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The hot water at least made the taste way more enjoyable for the new batch - but that doesn't save it from being as unsatisfiying as it is and I'm very curious when Predator will give their promised deepdive / insight into the whole batch-subject inside their new subreddit.
 
stardust_69 said:
The hot water at least made the taste way more enjoyable for the new batch - but that doesn't save it from being as unsatisfiying as it is and I'm very curious when Predator will give their promised deepdive / insight into the whole batch-subject inside their new subreddit.
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I don't think they'll be able to explain it. This time it's not a batch variation but the product as a whole feels entirely different which means a significant change in formulation (to the worse)
I believe with the European ban on RCs the raw ingredients are harder to source hence they decided to go with the usual Alpha Yo, DMHA etc nonsense but kept the price to rip off customers
 
I love alpha yo but I don’t need a $120 tub of it. Already ordered one from Pred. Just got it today.
Have to ration my OG 7/26 and 11/25 through this excelsior winter and hope it comes back some day
 
excelsiors said:
So not one person is going to review the new batch here?

Speaks for itself, likely trash sadly.

Strange how all the exotic stims died out as of now, all it takes is one to retake the throne
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Have u tried any of the pres from highstim.com? Sharp AMF, Game on , Ashes .. Definitely exotic stims in these
 
DelTrem said:
View attachment 256434

The Last Sausage Tree in Africa

The sun stands mottled against the forest floor, marking only the spaces where it’s managed to break through the leafy canopy. The heat is oppressive. A grotesquely fat man stands, sweating through a comically small Predator Nutrition shirt. His once athletic frame swallowed by fleshy folds. At one time this man could have been mistaken for a bodybuilder. He now marks his progress in pounds sterling rather than pounds of iron.

A villager kneels over the translucent red tubs as he squeezes the shriveled sausage fruit, desperate to wring out the last drops of magic. It’s hopeless. He knows it’s hopeless. The man knows it’s hopeless. “We’ll send those tubs to Smart Mammoth, he won’t know the difference,” his voice is flat, emotionless.

The man loads the last pallet into the truck and turns to leave. “I’ll see you next year.” Around him the fields of kigelia africana, trees that once exploded with the vulgar fruit lay desiccated and dead.

Somewhere far away, across oceans and continents, muscleman stirs. He dreams of dark formless shapes, the weight of his dreams crushing him. He sits up violently, sweating through his shirt, like the man. A single tear breaks slowly across his cheek.
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DelTrem said:
View attachment 256434

The Last Sausage Tree in Africa

The sun stands mottled against the forest floor, marking only the spaces where it’s managed to break through the leafy canopy. The heat is oppressive. A grotesquely fat man stands, sweating through a comically small Predator Nutrition shirt. His once athletic frame swallowed by fleshy folds. At one time this man could have been mistaken for a bodybuilder. He now marks his progress in pounds sterling rather than pounds of iron.

A villager kneels over the translucent red tubs as he squeezes the shriveled sausage fruit, desperate to wring out the last drops of magic. It’s hopeless. He knows it’s hopeless. The man knows it’s hopeless. “We’ll send those tubs to Smart Mammoth, he won’t know the difference,” his voice is flat, emotionless.

The man loads the last pallet into the truck and turns to leave. “I’ll see you next year.” Around him the fields of kigelia africana, trees that once exploded with the vulgar fruit lay desiccated and dead.

Somewhere far away, across oceans and continents, muscleman stirs. He dreams of dark formless shapes, the weight of his dreams crushing him. He sits up violently, sweating through his shirt, like the man. A single tear breaks slowly across his cheek.
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This was the most beautiful piece of writing I’ve seen in my life
 
For a fun read , go see Predators subreddit page , where they answer people’s feedback on the new excelsior batch .
They are attributing the negative reviews to the users negative mindsets and tolerances, still maintaining that Excelsior has never changed its formula
 
cfisher52986 said:
For a fun read , go see Predators subreddit page , where they answer people’s feedback on the new excelsior batch .
They are attributing the negative reviews to the users negative mindsets and tolerances, still maintaining that Excelsior has never changed its formula
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They are morons i have exclusively used excelsior almost daily from 2019-23 and less often recently and even if the tubs werent as strong or hit as hard they all felt the same effect wise, new batch is a completely different formula i could instantly feel the alpha yo after having it which for the last 6 years ive not experienced once using excelsior
 
DelTrem said:
View attachment 256434

The Last Sausage Tree in Africa

The sun stands mottled against the forest floor, marking only the spaces where it’s managed to break through the leafy canopy. The heat is oppressive. A grotesquely fat man stands, sweating through a comically small Predator Nutrition shirt. His once athletic frame swallowed by fleshy folds. At one time this man could have been mistaken for a bodybuilder. He now marks his progress in pounds sterling rather than pounds of iron.

A villager kneels over the translucent red tubs as he squeezes the shriveled sausage fruit, desperate to wring out the last drops of magic. It’s hopeless. He knows it’s hopeless. The man knows it’s hopeless. “We’ll send those tubs to Smart Mammoth, he won’t know the difference,” his voice is flat, emotionless.

The man loads the last pallet into the truck and turns to leave. “I’ll see you next year.” Around him the fields of kigelia africana, trees that once exploded with the vulgar fruit lay desiccated and dead.

Somewhere far away, across oceans and continents, muscleman stirs. He dreams of dark formless shapes, the weight of his dreams crushing him. He sits up violently, sweating through his shirt, like the man. A single tear breaks slowly across his cheek.
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At first I thought the fat man was actually Muscleman 🤔
 
curley98 said:
They are morons i have exclusively used excelsior almost daily from 2019-23 and less often recently and even if the tubs werent as strong or hit as hard they all felt the same effect wise, new batch is a completely different formula i could instantly feel the alpha yo after having it which for the last 6 years ive not experienced once using excelsior
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I think they’re going to pretend they never said the “mindset changes the effects “ thing and just stick with the whole “ potency of the fruits varies from season to season”
 
cfisher52986 said:
For a fun read , go see Predators subreddit page , where they answer people’s feedback on the new excelsior batch .
They are attributing the negative reviews to the users negative mindsets and tolerances, still maintaining that Excelsior has never changed its formula
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I left my feedback there yesterday, they were denying any formulation changes, giving stupid excuses about people's different reactions etc. but I didn't hold back. In the end they said that they passed my feedback on, and have one of their staff members to try the latest batch
 
Leon9999 said:
I left my feedback there yesterday, they were denying any formulation changes, giving stupid excuses about people's different reactions etc. but I didn't hold back. In the end they said that they passed my feedback on, and have one of their staff members to try the latest batch
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It’s ridiculous. Blows my mind , but then I remember they’ve been on this bullshit for years
 
It’s time to just pool our money and send some samples to janoshik to get tested. **** predator and **** imperial. Let’s just source our own replacement.

I am 💯 serious. I have hitter recent batches and OG samples to send out. But
I’m not gonna pay for all of it myself.
 
DelTrem said:
It’s time to just pool our money and send some samples to janoshik to get tested. ** predator and ** imperial. Let’s just source our own replacement.

I am 💯 serious. I have hitter recent batches and OG samples to send out. But
I’m not gonna pay for all of it myself.
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I'll chip in some, especially if you have a batch from 2019-2020
 
DelTrem said:
It’s time to just pool our money and send some samples to janoshik to get tested. ** predator and ** imperial. Let’s just source our own replacement.

I am 💯 serious. I have hitter recent batches and OG samples to send out. But
I’m not gonna pay for all of it myself.
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You cant source them anymore. 3fma or one of those. Banned and cant find
 
DelTrem said:
It’s time to just pool our money and send some samples to janoshik to get tested. ** predator and ** imperial. Let’s just source our own replacement.

I am 💯 serious. I have hitter recent batches and OG samples to send out. But
I’m not gonna pay for all of it myself.
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I can pitch in $$$, but I don't have any product. Sounds like a fun project
 
SpicedCider said:
I'll chip in some, especially if you have a batch from 2019-2020
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I have 7/26 smooth lid excelsior (the 🔥 batch), And tons of thermals (11/22, 4/24, 9/26, 1/27, 6/28).

Just be clear, I am not looking to sell any of these, they are sealed but I will open them for testing even though I could get $1k+ on eBay for the OG thermals.
 
Even if you got the main OG ingredient , there are probably other ingredients that add to it and create a synergistic effect . But I agree we should send some out . Any idea how much it would be ? I’m willing to put in
 
cfisher52986 said:
Even if you got the main OG ingredient , there are probably other ingredients that add to it and create a synergistic effect . But I agree we should send some out . Any idea how much it would be ? I’m willing to put in
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Ok, I will contact janoshik and report back

Getting a rough starting point and tweaking (literally and figuratively) will be the fun part!
 
DelTrem said:
If y’all couldn’t tell I took a full scoop this morning. Need to stop bs’ing and finish my sets 😂
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Seriously that piece about the Kigelia was freaking amazing .” Send these tubs to that mammoth fellow he won’t know the difference “ 🤣 didn’t predator actually say something to the effect that the batches can differ based on the potency of the fruits from season to season
 
Good morning, gentlemen; I am here with an update that will certainly be unwelcome to all of you but probably not unexpected at this point.

My package containing the tubs (unfortunately I ordered two) of Excelsior I ordered from PN a few weeks back was finally delivered in recent days, and I do not have good news to report.

It has been just over two hours since I took my usual dose (1.5 scoops) of Excelsior on an empty stomach prior to doing my cardio, and I am still sitting here in my car with the A/C blasting hoping/waiting for the effects to subside.

First of all, the many Reddit users who have remarked that this basically feels like an alpha-yohimbine supplement are (unfortunately) right on the money. I have plenty of personal experience with alpha-yo supplements, and this feels just like that. I am simultaneously nauseous, jittery with elevated HR, cold, and sweaty.

For me, one of the dead giveaways is hand/palm sweating. I literally just took the attached picture of my palm a few minutes ago. It's one thing to get a bunk batch of Excelsior that does absolutely nothing, but this is the first time I can honestly say that taking Excelsior has made me feel worse from my baseline. At this point I would rather just take a modest dose of DMAA and know what to expect.

Unfortunately, this will be the last time I order Excelsior. Let me know if anyone wants to buy my second (unopened) tub.

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SpicedCider said:
Good morning, gentlemen; I am here with an update that will certainly be unwelcome to all of you but probably not unexpected at this point.

My package containing the tubs (unfortunately I ordered two) of Excelsior I ordered from PN a few weeks back was finally delivered in recent days, and I do not have good news to report.

It has been just over two hours since I took my usual dose (1.5 scoops) of Excelsior on an empty stomach prior to doing my cardio, and I am still sitting here in my car with the A/C blasting hoping/waiting for the effects to subside.

First of all, the many Reddit users who have remarked that this basically feels like an alpha-yohimbine supplement are (unfortunately) right on the money. I have plenty of personal experience with alpha-yo supplements, and this feels just like that. I am simultaneously nauseous, jittery with elevated HR, cold, and sweaty.

For me, one of the dead giveaways is hand/palm sweating. I literally just took the attached picture of my palm a few minutes ago. It's one thing to get a bunk batch of Excelsior that does absolutely nothing, but this is the first time I can honestly say that taking Excelsior has made me feel worse from my baseline. At this point I would rather just take a modest dose of DMAA and know what to expect.

Unfortunately, this will be the last time I order Excelsior. Let me know if anyone wants to buy my second (unopened) tub.

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Must have gotten some bad tubs Mine hits just like the old days.
 
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