BASIS - An All New Type of Natural Anabolic - Intro & Discussion

max silver said:
Do you think you'd consider offering Peptistrong as a standalone ingredient? I'd really like to take Peptistrong all the time, but Peptibolic is a bit on the pricey side, and I find that Basis and Peptiplex have enough overlapping ingredients that I'm leaning towards only using only one or the other.
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I'm going to reply in detail here; I know you may know a lot of this, my reply is just meant to be an in depth one to people that may not.

I've considered it and may make one, but even if we do, I would still say that Pepti-Plex is a better product and better value than a stand alone PeptiStrong would be.

Pepti-Bolic is a great value for what it is, but they're both very expensive ingredients. Muscletech sells DL-185 alone for more than we sell Pepti-Bolic for and it contains PeptiStrong + DL-185. I wish the ingredients were less expensive so that we could offer it for less, but we offer it for a great price for what it is and how much it costs to make.

Pepti-Plex is like a natural anabolic + healthy aging & longevity supplement + muscle health supplement all combined into one. Just off the top of my head, the things that I can think of that it targets are:
  • Muscle building
  • Muscle retention
  • Strength
  • Muscular endurance
  • Muscle health (including helping with nagging injuries)
  • Senescent cell clearance
  • Improved blood flow and cardiovascular health
I could keep going but won't bc don't want to make the post too long.

PeptiStrong works really well with the other ingredients in Pepti-Plex to accomplish that, but there is a lot more to PeptiStrong than just that.

Like with BASIS how people may have tried some of the ingredients on their own, but its a whole different world using them together, the same applies with Pepti-Plex because of the multiple methods of action being incorporated together in one product.

Pepti-Plex and BASIS make for a great stack and there are a couple of common ingredients and that is a very good thing because higher dosages of each of them helps add extra benefits.

  • Apigenin:
    • Pepti-Plex and BASIS both have 50 mg. each.
    • Studies have shown 50 mg. per day to be the starting effective dose to support building muscle, but have also shown that higher dosages increase the benefits.
    • Higher dosages of Apigenin also help with a wide variety of health aging, longevity, and muscle recovery benefits.
  • Senactiv:
    • Pepti-Plex and BASIS both have 50 mg. each.
    • Senactiv is a very overlooked ingredient and a lot of people view it as just something added in to other products without realizing how significant the benefits can be and how it can help set the stage for other ingredients and products to work more effectively.
    • Stacking BASIS and Pepti-Plex together would provide 100 mg. of Senactiv, which is the dosage that a lot of people start to really feel more advanced benefits with. It's the dose that we chose for the standalone Senactiv XT product.
    • The Senactiv XT write up is very in depth for anyone interested in learning more about it: https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/senactiv-xt/
  • AstraGin:
    • AstraGin is primarily included to help increase absorption, but it has a lot of other cool potential benefits that a lot of people don't know about because its become so associated with one thing, that the other benefits get overlooked.
    • The newest research on AstraGin that I've seen show how higher dosages than the standard 50 mg. dosing can help with gut health and microbiome.
    • Pepti-Plex has 50 mg. and BASIS has 25 mg.
  • Bioperine:
    • Pepti-Plex and BASIS both have 10 mg. each and 10 mg. to 20 mg. is the proper dosage range.
    • Bioperine is primarily to increase absorption - it isn't the most exciting ingredient, but it serves a very functional purpose.
We most likely will do a single ingredient PeptiStrong in the near future, but I think its important that people realize the importance of the other ingredients in Pepti-Plex because they will lose a lot of the benefits that many people like by going with the single ingredient one.
 
Last time I saw a single ingredient Peptistrong it was $30 a bottle. For about $20 more you get Peptistrong and DL185; from a trusted company. Pepti-bolic is worth the cost imo for what you get. I like the idea of a single ingredient but honestly would probably just get Pepti-bolic after having run DL185 for a few months and liking the results.
 
Danksta710 said:
Last time I saw a single ingredient Peptistrong it was $30 a bottle. For about $20 more you get Peptistrong and DL185; from a trusted company. Pepti-bolic is worth the cost imo for what you get. I like the idea of a single ingredient but honestly would probably just get Pepti-bolic after having run DL185 for a few months and liking the results.
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Yeah, at average on sale prices, Pepti-Plex is only around 10.00 more than PeptiStrong would be and I think that its well worth the 10.00 extra.

And as you mentioned, Pepti-Bolic offers that and the DL-185 both for not a lot more based on sale prices.

I do think we will likely do a PeptiStrong single ingredient in the near future, but I could never tell anyone that I personally don't think that it would be well worth it to go with Pepti-Plex or Pepti-Bolic.
 
Too early to give proper feedback on BASIS so far as I've only been on it 2 weeks. I will say that im noticing some body composition and my joints feel great, definitely one upped how my joints were on Joint Support XT alone
 
Due to age and 25 years of combat sports training it isn't uncommon for my right knee to bother me. It isn't anything that I can't train around but I definitely notice it.

6 weeks in to using Basis and my knee has been feeling better than it has in a long time. I'm also noticing some leaning out and noticeable muscle fullness as well (I am also on Prime XT and Alpha One which is no doubt contributing to this). There's a pretty good chance that once Basis is back in stock that I'll be picking up another 4-6 bottles.
 
I'm ~1 month into BASIS, but also ~2 months into my bottle of Pepti-Plex so that does get some credit here...

I started Pepti-Plex the same week as my summer slowpitch softball schedule started. I play in 3 different leagues, 2 of which are fairly competitive and not the 'beer league' most people would think of with softball. Other one is a co-ed league that is a bit more for shits and giggles, but our team is still pretty good. With all those games, I typically play at least 2 nights a week, usually 3. Don't like to lift on game days, so the other 4 are gym days. Not really many 'rest days' since the end of April when it started up. BASIS got added in towards the end of May.

I've never really had trouble getting through games or anything, and its never really effected my gym progress... but past few years, after a game would finish, I'd go and sit down in a chair to chill with the team and watch the other games, and getting back up out of that chair could be murder. Body would be stiff, feeling like an old man lol. This year however, I've felt fucking great. Just finished up 4 straight days of games in ~90 degree heat and I'm a tad mentally drained at this point but physically feel just fine.

Gym stuff is going great too. I switched up from my usual P/P/L split and am now on a bit more of a bro split, body had no issues adjusting. Added weight on some lifts. All the extra cardio running around in the outfield is likely a part of it, but also seem to be slimming down a bit more than I would have expected considering I'm eating ~maintenance cals.

I have some thoughts about helping with nagging injuries, but I wanna give this through until fall league starts before I mention those. Hopefully BASIS is back in stock before my 2nd bottle runs out, don't wanna be off it long haha.
 
Well, those past 4 reviews above are pretty consistent on joint support & some recomp features. Now I'm feeling enthused by this product!
 
Been using Basis for the last ~6 weeks and can attest to the same sort of results above. Seen an increase in strength, endurance, and pump. Also not ever feeling sore, so recovery effects are great.
Definitely seeing the recomp effects and sort of sport an all-day pump as well. Libido is also through the roof.

Thankfully purchased a couple of bottles, but will 100% be grabbing a bunch on restock. I came to check on restock progress and decided to add a short review as well.
 
Paintball26 said:
Been using Basis for the last ~6 weeks and can attest to the same sort of results above. Seen an increase in strength, endurance, and pump. Also not ever feeling sore, so recovery effects are great.
Definitely seeing the recomp effects and sort of sport an all-day pump as well. Libido is also through the roof.

Thankfully purchased a couple of bottles, but will 100% be grabbing a bunch on restock. I came to check on restock progress and decided to add a short review as well.
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Nice glad you are liking .. yeah i know few people who regret not stocking up on this

I need to pick up a 6pack next time myself
 
I'm running out of basis this weekend so I'm actuality curious to see if aches and pains return. I didn't get the leaning or the pump but did notice improved joints above any joint supplements.
 
Paintball26 said:
Been using Basis for the last ~6 weeks and can attest to the same sort of results above. Seen an increase in strength, endurance, and pump. Also not ever feeling sore, so recovery effects are great.
Definitely seeing the recomp effects and sort of sport an all-day pump as well. Libido is also through the roof.

Thankfully purchased a couple of bottles, but will 100% be grabbing a bunch on restock. I came to check on restock progress and decided to add a short review as well.
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I never get the libido boost people seem to get from HGW which is frustrating. Same with PCT assist, it just never upped it for me. Amazing that it’s working so well for you though
 
Joshlm69 said:
I never get the libido boost people seem to get from HGW which is frustrating. Same with PCT assist, it just never upped it for me. Amazing that it’s working so well for you though
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I'm with you with HGW. I keep trying thinking it will give a boost but nothing. Basis great but no libido boost. Might just be me. Had a boost on the PCT but same boost from inhibit-e
 
aver4581 said:
Would it be fine to have all four caps before bed or can the salidroside be stimulating?
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I don't find Salidroside stimulating, but it does help me focus better.

I could take it before bed no problem, but it may vary by the person. I'm getting Salidroside in from BASIS and Mood Support XT both and I take a dose of each in the evening and no problems sleeping.
 
Djo13 said:
Is there an ETA for a restock?
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4 to 6 weeks, hoping closer to 4 weeks.

We thought we would already be restocked but it was just bad timing that was beyond anyone's control. Right after we launched BASIS, the tariff situation happened and that put the supply chain and manufacturing side of the industry very behind. Everyone is doing their best to get caught up as quickly as possible.

One thing that we have done is that we knew the second batch would sell out fast, so there's another batch being ran very close to it - they may wind up being consolidated to one larger batch - so that we can try to make sure it doesn't run out of stock again.
 
I’m ready for that restock. I missed out on the first wave, but after so many positive reviews I’m ready to grab a few bottles to test out.
 
Allhealsonme said:
I’m ready for that restock. I missed out on the first wave, but after so many positive reviews I’m ready to grab a few bottles to test out.
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Same bro made a mistake of only grabbing 2 and my brother jacked 1 lol

Just when i was feeling it .. time ran out lol
 
dukes3577 said:
Back in stock Sooooooon I hope! About to open 4th and final bottle 😔
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how are you liking the run ? if comes in stock on time .. planning on staying longer ?
 
dukes3577 said:
Really enjoying it and don’t plan to come off. I think I may add Anabolic XT with it starting in August.
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you can never go wrong with AXT al year around.

Im still debating .. more then likely im going to be looking at BASIS + CORDARINE (start at half dosage ) and adjust from there

post workout have been pepti-bolic
 
GQdaLEGEND said:
you can never go wrong with AXT al year around.

Im still debating .. more then likely im going to be looking at BASIS + CORDARINE (start at half dosage ) and adjust from there

post workout have been pepti-bolic
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Cordarine is amazing. That's all I gotta say.
 
In regard to when BASIS will be back in stock, we are doing everything possible to get it back in stock as fast as we can.

The tariff situation where it went up so high for awhile put the entire industry behind and caused a lot of out of stocks. That was something that no one could plan or prepare for and brands couldn't import some raw materials during that without the price increases being extreme.

Things have settled and everyone is playing catch up.

On our end, we've doubled the amount of the next run to try to make sure that it doesn't happen again.
 
TommyTuffGuy said:
Cordarine is amazing. That's all I gotta say.
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yup agree, think with peptibolic and basis .. it got overlooked but like you said i love it and a must.
fatigue hasnt existed :)
 
aver4581 said:
How did you find the run so far?
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Combined with Pepti-Plex, love it. Hardly any rest days the past couple months between gym/softball leagues, but feel fucking great. Still making progress in the gym, and haven't felt run down on the field despite the fact that I've had a couple stretches of 4 days straight of games in the 85+ heat and humidity. Had a couple weeks playing 8-10 games. Will have some thoughts to say on nagging injuries improving, might get a good chance to see if anything changes going back of BASIS now.


But hey, if anyone has a spare bottle from buying a stockpile when it released that doesn't need it in the next month.... lets chat :cool: :p
 
3 days in for a 2 bottle run. Amazing mood boost. Feel really calm after a dosage. Will report in on the recomping after a week or two
 
Just took my last dose from a 3 month run. This is the best I’ve looked in the last several year. Leaner, but still holding good muscle mass. I can’t say this was the only thing in the stack because I’ve run several other things during the last 3 months, but this was a huge and consistent contributor.

My thoughts for in the future is this would make a great recomp supplement or used in a cut. I do think it’s an 8-12 week minimum run. If I wanted a faster result I’d choose Alpha One, but for a long run Basis and Alpha One stacked would be great.
 
Halfnattyman44 said:
Just took my last dose from a 3 month run. This is the best I’ve looked in the last several year. Leaner, but still holding good muscle mass. I can’t say this was the only thing in the stack because I’ve run several other things during the last 3 months, but this was a huge and consistent contributor.

My thoughts for in the future is this would make a great recomp supplement or used in a cut. I do think it’s an 8-12 week minimum run. If I wanted a faster result I’d choose Alpha One, but for a long run Basis and Alpha One stacked would be great.
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Oh man glad you enjoyed the run

Yeah i feel 12weeks min for me to run these natural builders

I have cordarine saved up to stack or if someone wants recomp20 would be nice too .. alpha1 thrown on top of that stack :)
 
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Im almost done with a 3 month run, hurt my knee in the beginning of it which has set my summer back alot as I havent been as active with how I usually am, but I have stayed pleasantly lean Im convinced there is some type of effective recomp effect with this product and surely plan on using it again. I have kept my diet tight overall but my summer just has gone by easier that I expected while taking this. No other supplements other than caffeine and creatine were used.
 
Body composition is all good and all .. how are your partners reacting to this mix of Hg20x + Ostholoe added on is so good imo
 
ax1 said:
Im almost done with a 3 month run, hurt my knee in the beginning of it which has set my summer back alot as I havent been as active with how I usually am, but I have stayed pleasantly lean Im convinced there is some type of effective recomp effect with this product and surely plan on using it again. I have kept my diet tight overall but my summer just has gone by easier that I expected while taking this. No other supplements other than caffeine and creatine were used.
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Very nice and good to see u outside of stocks/crypto thread lol
 
dukes3577 said:
Hello, any update?
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We're doing the best that we can do.

Here's a bit of an explanation:

I've explained that the original holdup was the tariff situation, which no one could have anticipated. Raw materials costing over 120% more during that time period caused as many out of stocks industry wide as the start of the pandemic did. It also made Customs clearance times longer.

When things clear and come in, there's a process. We are fully cGMP, so when things arrive, they are sent out for testing. In a perfect world, that takes 7 to 10 days to get results back. In today's world, unfortunately, the tariff situation created a bottleneck with testing facilities where things are taking longer.

We had already doubled the size of the next batch and have another batch in process behind it. That translates into a huge amount of money tied up, and I can promise that no one wants the product available more than me/us.

I'm very sorry for the inconvenience, but we are truly doing the best that we can do. It's in process, but I simply cannot give an exact date because there are too many factors beyond our control.

I'm glad that everyone is enjoying it and I look forward to having it available for everyone as soon as possible.
 
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